Ken vs. Boris: It's So On

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Well, it's down to "nice bloke, makes yer laff" which is how Boz and Caz are operating right now.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

it was five years ago tonight that my life - and everyone's life, especially in Britain, even if they don't want to admit it - changed forever

i think he's talking about that gareth gates 'spirit in the sky' cover.

banriquit, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:47 (eighteen years ago)

Scotland is indeed nearer; speaking of which, excellent article by Ian Jack here.

Felt he missed out a lot though, like differences in education system and in attitudes to education (poor people are allowed to be educated in Scotland - even, whisper it, encouraged to be educated); attitudes to property ownership etc

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:51 (eighteen years ago)

Well there's at least one very major difference in the Scottish education system which doesn't seem to have been eradicated, sadly.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:53 (eighteen years ago)

Very striking, Ian Jack's words on Scotland's bloody tradition of militarism making it defendable in a future world.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:56 (eighteen years ago)

"Did you spill Scotland's pint?"

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

In any case it's when you get out into places like Bromley and Twickenham that you're in real Tory heartland, I wouldn't say it's even a 50:50 split

The Twickenham MP is Vince Cable! The Richmond Park MP is Susan Kramer (Lib Dem), and the Kingston MP is Ed Davey (Lib Dem). Richmond council is Lib Dem controlled, as is Kingston.

I am going to vote for Paddick.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

Second pref?

Ed, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

Green.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

*cue predictable gags about I didn't know Scritti Politti were running*

That's a good choice for Twickenham.

Hammersmith & Fulham, however, is untrue blue so I'll have to turn out. Despite his being Ken I'm voting for Ken with Paddick as second choice.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:04 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah I acknowledged that Cable thing in the following post, Dr C.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yes, sorry. But I just wanted to set the recd straight wrt this mythical Tory heartland of SW London!

One of the candidates turned up at our front door to get us to sign a form allowing him to run - he needed something like 30 signatures from each London Borough.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

I have to combat Chingford I guess.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

Can't persuade you to put Ken second for the sake of stopping boris?

xpost to dr C?

Ed, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

Feel sad for people who have to vote for Ploddick, I think he's the worst candidate for political office i've seen since Bobby Gillespie's dad

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

Ed - maybe.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

Well, what will it take, Doc? A gold plectrum?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

Much, much more than that...

Dr.C, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I know what you mean Tom, and my heart says Left List as second preference but my STOP BORIS ESPECIALLY IN PHIL N' KIRSTIE FRIENDLY FULHAM says Ploddick.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

my "STOP BORIS etc." head that should be.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone does realise that this election is london wide for mayor, it doesn't matter how each candidate does on a constituency basis it is the number of votes in total across london. So voting for Ploddick will not stop boris (by all means vote tactically for assembly members)

Ed, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

Equally there's surely no point in voting LibDem and making a tactical second-place vote for the Greens, when Siam Berry will almost certainly have been eliminated before Paddick?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

Sian Berry, even.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

2nd-choice votes for anyone outside the top two are simply disregarded (well, they'll be tallied and prove reassuring reading for people concerned that the lovely Sian came in 5th behind the BeeEnPee, cos she'd have been a comfortable 4th, perhaps better, with 2nd-choice votes).

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, but I can't bring myself to put an X next to either Ken or Boris's name.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

Mike seems to have an aversion for typing the letters B, N and P ... and actually, I think I know how he feels.

Doc: ... no. I don't know what to say. You will, of course, do what you want to do.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

pinefox, do you feel that any of the criticisms made of ken amount to anything? do you find his personal style appealing?

banriquit, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

don't know why you guys are so afraid of a bank

DG, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

I do find his personal style appealing. And I don't really care about criticisms of him, in the present context.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

I remember taking a load of euros out of the BNP in the Quartier Latin last May, with dear old RJG of all people: slightly odd experience.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

Used to be, if you saw B'n'P tags you were duty-bound to alter these to BANGLADESHI NATIONAL PARTY.

suzy, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

What is this "left list" thing? Is it Respect?

caek, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

And various others

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

respect, in an unusual move for a left organisation, have split

DG, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

They suck.

caek, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

How many preferences do you indicate? Just the first two? Or can you make a point of putting them last?

caek, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Just the first 2

Ed, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

a split in the unity coalition. the full story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_List

banriquit, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

Here's hoping they get no votes whatsoever

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

They certainly seem like a bright bunch.

caek, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

So vote for whoever you like, just put Livingstone second, and we'll be alright.

xpost

It was a pretty inherently unstable coalition anyway, although shades of Kilroy-Silk &c.

Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Respect Renewal candidates will be standing under the name 'Respect (George Galloway)'

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

I most certainly will not.

Ed, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Do not vote for this man:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/207283646_f19a907e42.jpg

Ed, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

I quite like his beard

caek, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

There is no non-shit left-wing party to put 2nd is there?

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

Stress balls at the ready

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

I'd vote for Lindsey German if i were allowed to vote.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

SWP ugh

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

OTM

Ed, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 15:18 (eighteen years ago)


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