"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

genuinely loling at this appalling pun

43: Beach House – “Lemon Glow” – 202 points – 7 votes – 1 first place vote
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Beach House

a flash in the pan― Stephen Bush, Saturday, November 18, 2006

That S Bush became the ilxor "ilxor", fact fans. Think he's still around as something else now?

no less surprising discovery today than that the only ok-ish uk political commentator is actually also the ilxor formerly known as ilxor

we win

:(

Like actually?

no

pretty sure the ilxor ilxor was american

i think it's unlikely (i'm am still committed to the "mcternan posts here" bit tho)

a cursory search of threads he created has him refer to "senior year in high school"

my xls is strong

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/30/it-is-terrible-but-i-still-want-it-crewe-voters-size-up-no-deal-brexit

We voted because of immigration and we didn’t realise how poor we would be. It will be terrible but I still want it, because of immigration.

the most disingenuous aspect of the coverage of brexit is the pretense that it isn't almost completely about immigration

Much of it non-European, to boot.

sorry you guys have your own racist morons

I mean that he posted here, not that he was a specific user, alas. Though I do feel less guilty about telling people how to circumvent the NS paywall, so there’s that.

It would not surprise me about John McT, he follows obscure left accounts with few followers.

the most disingenuous aspect of the coverage of brexit is the pretense that it isn't almost completely about immigration

That includes the coverage on ILX if you back through these threads.

I think a sizeable chunk of the Brexit vote is people who've convinced themselves that it isn't about immigration, tbf. There's some degree of hypothetical difference between nationalism and anti-immigration sentiment, too.

Much of it non-European, to boot.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, January 30, 2019 10:29 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that's my favourite bit. brexit will mean we won't have immigrants coming from the EU countries of the indian subcontinent!

leaving the EU will mean that no Syrians come here!

The 73-year-old former builder and engineer said he had been lied to by the leave campaign. “They didn’t tell us the true facts. They kept us in the dark like mushrooms and fed us bullshit,” he said. “We voted because of immigration and we didn’t realise how poor we would be. It will be terrible but I still want it, because of immigration.”

It’s not about immigration but...

67% Immigration
23% Protest vote over austerity or whatever
10% Other?

The absolute core is a belief that England/Britain/the UK - let's be honest, mostly England - has some kind of manifest destiny.

Got some bad news for that British-Cypriot woman in the article...

hey dumb American here I struggle to keep up and understand what's going on, is there a good place to start?

well you see in 1649 Oliver Cromwell invaded Ireland...

eh it's fine I can go back to acting like I know what I'm talking about hasn't stopped me yet

I think we've all failed to acknowledge that these fine men and women simply favour culture over economics. They would do anything to rescue Cædmon's legacy from civilisational collapse.

Don't ask us, we only live here.

well you see in 1649 Oliver Cromwell invaded Ireland...

Thread needs deems to point out it start 4 centuries before that.

hey dumb American here I struggle to keep up and understand what's going on, is there a good place to start?

tbf there was a brief "happy" period in medieval Ireland where English hegemony waned after the black death wiped out half the population :p

Anyone who would willingly choose poverty over having a few more brown people here deserves to be shipped off to Syria imo.

hasn't Syria been through enough

Some people when faced with actual poverty are often a bit shocked in a sort of : eh? but it's me, I'm not one of those foreigns or scroungers.

tbf there was a brief "happy" period in medieval Ireland where English hegemony waned after the black death wiped out half the population :p

hasn't Syria been through enough

I mean to sort out ISIS, that sort of thing.

the most disingenuous aspect of the coverage of brexit is the pretense that it isn't almost completely about immigration

That includes the coverage on ILX if you back through these threads.

― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 18:32 (thirty-one minutes ago)

The concept that there was a substantial Lexit component to the referendum result is certainly a myth that some alphabetically terminal posters like to put about.

S Bush is good not bad

how do get NS for free again? Sorry I've asked this before.

hey dumb American here I struggle to keep up and understand what's going on, is there a good place to start?

thanks!

The absolute core is a belief that England/Britain/the UK - let's be honest, mostly England - has some kind of manifest destiny.

This is correct imo. Immigration is bundled up in it but, to fall back on a terrible cliche, the country has never really reckoned properly with the end of Empire.

The concept that there was a substantial Lexit component to the referendum result is certainly a myth that some alphabetically terminal posters like to put about.

No, that wasn't it. Someone was arguing that fears over immigration wasn't that big a factor in the Brexit vote - based, I think, on their experience with Brexit supporters. Brexit rather than Lexit supporters, in case of confusion.

'it is terrible but I still want it' should be the conservative party strapline

channel 4 news reporting that dark money facebook adds are signal boosting 'no deal' in large numbers

how long until it garners 40%+ support

ums my top tips for understanding brexit are:

1. it's not a short term thing so getting an understanding of the history of the EU and the UK's relationship with it is essential for any proper analysis
2. don't just read & listen to ppl in london

I thought we passed that point a fortnight ago. Doesn’t surprise me, all the loony 🇬🇧😂🤣 accounts on twitter with their 80s hair and 70s teeth are pushing this one hard as well.

This is correct imo. Immigration is bundled up in it but, to fall back on a terrible cliche, the country has never really reckoned properly with the end of Empire.

I don't think the country ever reckoned properly with having Empire either. CF that excellent piece way upthread about this weird self-image of WWII winners which handwaves away the fact that Britain went into an economic and military powerhouse, not the plucky underdog.

We used to be like the billionaire pretending all his wealth is down to grit and hard work and bootstrap-pulling, now we're the same billionaire gone broke and muttering darkly to himself about enemies and rejecting all his friends.