2020 Democratic presidential primary

sorry, did not know Simon posted that video yesterday

don't tell me you're getting tired of being repetitive

since i didn't see it, i am not being repetitive

tell us how much you love Tarantino tho

I'm dreading his next movie, that's how much

is it an adaptation of No Exit?
Are we in it?

if you type "boycott" in google the autocomplete is " starbucks"

gotta say this arms race to see who can propose levying the highest taxes on the rich absolutely fucking rules

Our bill only applies to the richest 0.2% of Americans. It would establish a:

-45% tax on estate values $3.5M to $10M
-50% tax on estate values $10M to $50M
-55% tax on estate values over $50M
-77% tax on estate values over $1 billion

— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) January 31, 2019

can I vote for downtown boys' proposal

https://youtu.be/h_AaTM-IKxM

What's funny is that while the party hates the idea that Dems should identify villains -- they don't even like saying they want to defeat *conservatism* -- they do actually know that it *works.* It's what Obama did in 2012, to the horror of people like Booker. https://t.co/7Pe7Ssjhkg

— Italian Alex Pareene (@pareene) January 31, 2019

Does the story of the middle-class's decline need a ruling-class villain?

yes

it certainly has one

#BREAKING: Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) changes her stance on healthcare in under 24 hours after her CNN town hall

"As the furor grew," a Harris adviser said "she would also be open to the more moderate health reform plans, which would preserve the industry"

— Jesse Marioneaux (@jesse_marioneau) January 30, 2019

balancing the competing interests of disparate factions has worked so well for the democrats for the last 50 years

in other kamala harris news, i see the guy who shared the videos of her talking about how awesome it is to lock up the parents of truants has been suspended fom twitter, which is a totally cool normal thing that we should all support

.@Twitter has suspended @WillisJermane, whose tweets about the Kamala Harris truancy videos I posted, got shared thousands and thousands of times and were cited by multiple news outlets.

— Walker Bragman (@WalkerBragman) January 30, 2019

wtf

I suspect the two things are not related, given how much total shit twitter allows

"As the furor grew," a Harris adviser said

I highly doubt the adviser said this tbh

regardless of how important you think those video clips were, the account was among the more “obviously not a real person” situations. Lol at being credulous about Bragman’s claims here

is 'not being a real person' a suspendable offence?

also not seeing any credible reporting about Harris making some dramatic reversal (I did not watch the CNN Town Hall, haven't looked up exactly what she said there)

xp

(and those video clips were very important, just for the record)

ah here it is

By stating she would eliminate private insurers as a necessary part of implementing "Medicare-for-all," California Sen. Kamala Harris during a CNN town hall Monday night sent a shockwave through the national health care debate. Harris' comments underscored the extent to which a move to single payer would radically overhaul the current system and, in frankly addressing one of the transition's most politically difficult steps, stepped directly into her critics' crosshairs...As the furor grew, a Harris adviser on Tuesday signaled that the candidate would also be open to the more moderate health reform plans, which would preserve the industry, being floated by other congressional Democrats. It represents a compromise position that risks angering "Medicare-for-all" proponents, who view eliminating private health insurance as key to enacting their comprehensive reform.

immediately followed by:

This has been an embarrassing episode for Harris, even if it represents a small nod to fiscal and political reality. For hardcore progressives, who will play an outsized role in Democrats' nominating process, single-payer healthcare is an ideological article of faith and a policy holy grail.

storm in a teacup imo

Pretending to me a real person possibly, Aldo the account didn’t exist until a month ago.

Maybe the same thing will happen to that weird account Amir who pretends to be a doctor in Los Angeles

reported by... Fox News

xp

just for the record, we are discussing avowed ILX leftists resorting to Fox News and a fake twitter account to damage a Dem candidate for President.

how heavy is that water you guys are carrying

just for the record, a dem candidate for president talked in public about her sincerely-held views on incarceration, views which are incompatible with my preferences for the future political development of the united states of america

water's not giving me any problems tbh

"Medicare-for-all" proponents, who view eliminating private health insurance as key to enacting their comprehensive reform.

is this even true? I don't quite understand how Medicare-for-all requires the elimination of private insurance. Is there some sort of specific plan that mandates this as a way of funding M4A or something?

regardless of fox or fake twitter accounts, those are real videos of the real kamala harris talking about her real political views and they fucking suck xp

I would need to see some evidence of the "fake account" angle but yeah I was glad to see the clip

Shakey has been promoted to Cap'n Save-A-Cop

Shakey you’re talking to people who already made clear a million times that they don’t care whether they uncritically amplify a right wing media narrative or not and get mad if you don’t let them put blinders on to the agenda of a source.

I feel like this would all be solved if Simon and Morbz and whoever else could just look deep into the recesses of each candidates' souls to know their TRUE FEEWINGS

who gives a fuck about the 'agenda of a source' if what they're sharing is a real, true and accurate account of the alarmingly reactionary views of someone who wants to stand as the democrat candidate for president?

democrat candidate

lol I like u and all but... c'mon

are you gonna start calling them the Democrat Party now too

what is the "right wing media narrative" inherent in that clip? I haven't heard of any right wingers or even many liberals take issue with the content

Is it weird that this account has only existed since November 2018 & it's mostly against black politicians? pic.twitter.com/4oSURSMqww

— Kelly Rhone (@kellyrhonesdead) January 29, 2019

i'm sorry, the alarmingly reactionary views and actions of &c &c

shakey sorry 4 typo, i hope we can still be friends

nerdstrom, can u pls stop uncritically amplifying objections to that twitter account and explain what you like about the content of those harris videos

nerdstrom, can u pls delete your account and stop constantly derailing this thread with childish insinuations

shakey, that first block quote is from CNN, and the second is from some guy on townhall.com -- where does fox enter into this again?

also could you explain your emphasis on the "fiscal reality" of medicare for all? because speaking of water carrying...

I hardly ever give a shit about TRUE FEEWINGS. Actions rule all in governance.

they don’t care whether they uncritically amplify a right wing media narrative or not

yeah, this is why I don't buy "Russian bots stole the election." People can believe or disbelieve what they want, on the merits.

Harris is a slick pig. Great smile, though.

where are those copies of the ILXor Leftist Vows, anyway?

nerdstrom, can u pls delete your account and stop constantly derailing this thread with childish insinuations

― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, January 31, 2019 9:01 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shakey, that first block quote is from CNN, and the second is from some guy on townhall.com -- where does fox enter into this again?

just from search results. (I am not gonna quote Fox for obvious reasons)

Well I guess this settles it.

I just got off of a call with the individual, who wanted to stay anonymous.

In other words, this was not a fake account. pic.twitter.com/3dks0B0lh5

— Walker Bragman (@WalkerBragman) January 31, 2019

Nerdstrom ffs go participate in some other forum where they give one solitary shit about this alternate universe drama that you're obsessed with

nerdstrom tell us what’s good about Harris’s views in those videos or stfu

actually feel free to just stfu

shakey, that first block quote is from CNN, and the second is from some guy on townhall.com -- where does fox enter into this again?

just from search results. (I am not gonna quote Fox for obvious reasons)

― Οὖτις, Thursday, January 31, 2019 12:19 PM (three minutes ago)

so you would agree that invoking fox news in this story in any capacity was a lame smear