"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

wikipedia says "operation stack" will be superseded by "operation brock" in the event of no deal

Ken Clarke and Oliver Letwin have come out for the Cooper amendment so it looks like May's assurances have left at least some Tory MPs unconvinced. Presumably there'll be 15 or so others at least.

The ERG (well, Steve Baker) being unable to keep discipline and letting it be known that they're waiting for the next vote to say No and kill any deal can't be helping matters either

EU rules out reneg (for the umpteenth time). I think May will still take it. United against the EU.

Anyone watching this muck? PM was whispering to the chief whip urgently just now.

Sort of half watching, aye, but wondering more and more why I am. It's a spectacle that will result in nothing more than the aforementioned 'kicking the can down the road'. Possibly also a good day for May (under false pretenses), which is also ruining my day.

Apparently Brady's & Cooper's may go down to the wire, but the Spelman one is reasonably likely (no-deal, but only advisory)

Cooper amendment defeated.

is that some imago band?

no deal it is then lads

great stuff

thank god I'm not diabetic

start prepping.

UK gonna brexit so hard

how long will it take for things to go to shit/UK to beg re-entry?

love too live on the banter timeline

14 Labour MPs voted against the Cooper amendment to block no-deal: Ian Austin, Kevin Barron, Ronnie Campbell, Rosie Cooper, Jim Fitzpatrick, Caroline Flint, Roger Godsiff, Stephen Hepburn, Kate Hoey, John Mann, Dennis Skinner, Laura Smith, Gareth Snell, Graham Stringer

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) January 29, 2019

17 Tory MPs voted FOR the Cooper amendment to block no-deal: Heidi Allen, Guto Bebb, Nick Boles, Ken Clarke, Djangoly, Freeman, Justine Greening, Dom Grieve, Sam Gyimah, Phillip Lee, Oliver Letwin, Antoinette Sandbach, Soames, Soubry, Andrew Stephenson, Ed Vaizey, Wollaston

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) January 29, 2019

So the Commons is against the deal, against no deal, and against a mechanism that might prevent no deal.

Cracking work all concerned.

one of the more confounding days for uk politics in recent memory rly

Great negating position to take to Brussels, although it does represent remarkable consistency since A50 was triggered.

Great negating position to take to Brussels, although it does represent remarkable consistency since A50 was triggered.

This is one of their worst days yet. What a fucking shower

uniting her party behind the malthouse compromise should at least make it easier to draft a brexit policy for their manifesto

Negating position is the mot just

We might actually die

BREAKING from Donald Tusk spokesman: “Withdrawal agreement is & remains the best and only way to ensure an orderly withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union. The backstop is part of the Withdrawal Agreement & the Withdrawal Agreement is not open for re-negotiation”

— Nick Eardley (@nickeardleybbc) January 29, 2019

"...so stick that up yer tootbox (2/2)"

So that's at least 14 good reasons why a second referendum isn't happening even if Corbyn whips Labour MPs to support it.

Now, far be it from me to suggest that Tony Blair, Alistair Campbell and Chuka Umunna might have a secondary motive here, but I don't believe that the People's Vote campaign didn't know that all along.

Yeah second ref seems unequivocally dead now

“Unequivocally”, wtf am I on about with this shower?

Can't be arsed to go thru the rigmarole necessary to post KELLY Clarkson's "Stronger" via the phone

This could make a GE more likely...or the army in streets? Fucking hell

Any more about the rumour that a GE gets called on Thursday?

Haven't seen anything.

We want a deal we can’t get
vs
we propose a deal we don’t want

Your duelling manifestos in full

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/01/jeremy-corbyn-agrees-meet-theresa-may-brexit-talks

Deal will go through now.

would that still collapse the government? DUP would withdraw support no?

I'd like to think it would have enough Labour and Tory MPs to pass but who the fuck knows any more.

Academic since May isn't going to budge on a single one of her red lines.

I guess so, which makes it interesting on whether Corbyn budges on his lines - or whether it will matter or not as MPs cross-party just unite to vote the deal through so we don't crash out.

Sorry if I sounded too certain there...just going from day-to-day on this.

Is she going to stick around to negotiate the final agreement?

It’s all academic, I’m australian in a year and Lithuanian if my ancestors had kept better documentation of being pogrommed. (Or if whoever was working the docks in Hull for the immigration service in the 1850s was operating a Hostile environment record keeping policy)

There was a containment hostel for East European immigrants passing through on their way to the US around that time so maybe quite hostile

Presumably Britain can still negotiate a deal of sorts even after No Deal? We'll be so desperate we'll take anything.

Surely if no deal happens their first offer is going to be “join the EU, we’ll let you put the queen on your Euros”

would that still collapse the government? DUP would withdraw support no?

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yeah so: deal goes through without DUP support --> DUP withdraws from coalition --> GE --> Labour wins, and owns this shit in a transition period

Why do you think it won't just be No Deal? Everything seems to point that way at the moment

People think there will be a deal just because they don't like thinking about sweet merciful death.

It could still be that but I sincerely feel the reality of food shortages will force MPs to reluctantly pass the deal. It will probably be done in a panic - and the clock will run close too.

I wouldn't discount a GE but its difficult to see that happening. xp

Just when you think it’s not possible to feel any more contempt for this shower... https://t.co/XevvRzBMAN

— Nicola Sturgeon (@NicolaSturgeon) January 29, 2019