"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

“They tell me,” May said, “that you really care about Europe. Well, that’s all right, as long as you remember that I really care about the Conservative Party.”

It’s more bullshit and yet again you have people reporting on this as though it’s not yet another bit of codology.

lol @ Kit Malthouse tho! Even though his "compromise" won't get past the EU and seems to be effectively No Deal.

Cheeky Brexiteer MP: “Backing Brady buys us another few weeks, she won’t get enough on backstop and then we can just vote the deal down again in Feb.” Oh

— Ross Kempsell (@rosskempsell) January 29, 2019

yup would trust those guys as far as I can throw them - if I was JRM I’d counsel them to seem reasonable and look as if we’re moving towards a compromise and leave it as long as possible before withdrawing support and enforcing no deal by default

election or no deal still feel most likely outcomes to me, though sentiment seems to be that the may deal might pass

Asked about @MatthewdAncona’s article turning on Tories as repellent, Blair says, “I thought he was Labour?”

— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) January 29, 2019

*chef’s kiss*

That’s perfect.

Lol!

You send people to parliament and that’s their day job. It’s not your day job. So if they study the detail and say this is a bad idea, they are not squabbling children, they are doing what you sent them to parliament to do.

Backing Brady buys us another few weeks, she won’t get enough on backstop and then we can just vote the deal down again in Feb.

Lots of MPs seem to have rather more than just the one day job.

kind of glad i turned up too late to bother taking apart the ways that Blair was as stupid and mendacious as ever in that little speech

Study the detail? Fuck that. I'm starting to think this is getting too complicated for Parliament to operate with. I'm not saying they're all idiots (though, y'know, some absolutely are) but to get any 600+ group of people to co-ordinate effectively around a problem you do generally need some clear narratives and shorthands, even among detail-studying domain experts.

And this mess is becoming some 4d chess now, and the shorthands are multiplying in less-than-helpful ways so it's hard to grasp the big picture, and at the detail level I'm pretty confident that there isn't enough collective understanding of the WTO/EU27 position, and enough bad-faith ERG confident-sounding reassurances, that the expertise on which to judge the positions is pretty lacking.

Brady over Malthouse? Cooper? Who knows or cares, they're either effectively academic or will just buy time, but it's (deliberately?) confusing enough that they'll burn large amounts of time just wading through them. And the whips are no help, because the party leaderships are in just as much of a state - both sides U-turning based on tides among MPs.

I mean most of these bent fuckers didn't even know what a customs union was till last year. Shittest experts ever.

You have to admire the neck of people still convinced German car manufacturers will force Merkel to see sense, when May has turned a deaf ear to every single business leader here.

Literally just talking about German car manufacturers in Commons now

I wish May's batteries would finally run out so she can't repeat that bloody 'Corbyn talks to Hamas, RAF, IRA, Hezbollah, Taliban, Al Qaeda and West Ham United but not to me' line over and over and over again

so what happens tonight ?

just votes on the amendments ? or that plus vote on the deal (as amended) ?

fair play to corbyn tbh, there's pretty much no-one i'd want to speak to less than theresa may

xp amendments plus the deal and then another vote in the middle of next month on the concessions that May will have definitely have gotten out of the EU by then.

May has just reassured Peter Bone that if the deal she brings back from the EU (see above) isn't agreeable to Parliament, then he'd be able to switch to 'No' on the vote next month - which means that the EU can't (as well as won't) negotiate for any concessions she claims to have backing for.

https://i.imgur.com/NmQYLEu.png

I can't see the Graun having this nugget still on top as anything other than straight up trolling tbf

My partner just had a call from NHS Blood Donation, cancelling her April appointment, because they're shutting down in Kent port towns between mid-March and May, anticipating that Operation Stack on the M20 will prevent them from moving staff in or blood out.

— Marc Morris (@Longshanks1307) January 29, 2019

lol we're all gonna die

wikipedia says "operation stack" will be superseded by "operation brock" in the event of no deal

Ken Clarke and Oliver Letwin have come out for the Cooper amendment so it looks like May's assurances have left at least some Tory MPs unconvinced. Presumably there'll be 15 or so others at least.

The ERG (well, Steve Baker) being unable to keep discipline and letting it be known that they're waiting for the next vote to say No and kill any deal can't be helping matters either

EU rules out reneg (for the umpteenth time). I think May will still take it. United against the EU.

Anyone watching this muck? PM was whispering to the chief whip urgently just now.

Sort of half watching, aye, but wondering more and more why I am. It's a spectacle that will result in nothing more than the aforementioned 'kicking the can down the road'. Possibly also a good day for May (under false pretenses), which is also ruining my day.

Apparently Brady's & Cooper's may go down to the wire, but the Spelman one is reasonably likely (no-deal, but only advisory)

Cooper amendment defeated.

is that some imago band?

no deal it is then lads

great stuff

thank god I'm not diabetic

start prepping.

UK gonna brexit so hard

how long will it take for things to go to shit/UK to beg re-entry?

love too live on the banter timeline

14 Labour MPs voted against the Cooper amendment to block no-deal: Ian Austin, Kevin Barron, Ronnie Campbell, Rosie Cooper, Jim Fitzpatrick, Caroline Flint, Roger Godsiff, Stephen Hepburn, Kate Hoey, John Mann, Dennis Skinner, Laura Smith, Gareth Snell, Graham Stringer

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) January 29, 2019

17 Tory MPs voted FOR the Cooper amendment to block no-deal: Heidi Allen, Guto Bebb, Nick Boles, Ken Clarke, Djangoly, Freeman, Justine Greening, Dom Grieve, Sam Gyimah, Phillip Lee, Oliver Letwin, Antoinette Sandbach, Soames, Soubry, Andrew Stephenson, Ed Vaizey, Wollaston

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) January 29, 2019

So the Commons is against the deal, against no deal, and against a mechanism that might prevent no deal.

Cracking work all concerned.

one of the more confounding days for uk politics in recent memory rly

Great negating position to take to Brussels, although it does represent remarkable consistency since A50 was triggered.

Great negating position to take to Brussels, although it does represent remarkable consistency since A50 was triggered.

This is one of their worst days yet. What a fucking shower

uniting her party behind the malthouse compromise should at least make it easier to draft a brexit policy for their manifesto

Negating position is the mot just

We might actually die

BREAKING from Donald Tusk spokesman: “Withdrawal agreement is & remains the best and only way to ensure an orderly withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union. The backstop is part of the Withdrawal Agreement & the Withdrawal Agreement is not open for re-negotiation”

— Nick Eardley (@nickeardleybbc) January 29, 2019