2020 Democratic presidential primary

xxp "the charging and convicting" for having some weed thing, probably

That’s the law, a DA can’t just let people off the hook because it seems unfair, the best they could do is go for productive, non-prison-related solutions.

— Gritty is a war criminal (@agraybee) January 28, 2019

not in San Francisco: https://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2006/nov/24/marijuana_san_francisco_supervis

xp

And the fact that she considered it a priority to keep mothers out of jail and with their children seems like something she should put into her stump speech?

— Gritty is a war criminal (@agraybee) January 28, 2019

valorizing her for not jailing first time drug offenders is peak liberalism

She should have changed the laws

The solution to "being a DA means you have to do shitty things" seems to be "don't be a DA in the first place."

She should have changed the laws

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, January 28, 2019 3:21 PM (thirty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im not really au fait with the american justice system but in the legal system i am familiar with the equivalent to a DA has discretion as to whether they want to bring charges or not

Wait are we still saying “Liberal Case for Trump” guy’s thread is good and honest or did we shift to “Wellll I don’t think DA’s should exist anyway, man”?

That’s the law, a DA can’t just let people off the hook because it seems unfair

they absolutely can, wtf

Wait are we still saying “Liberal Case for Trump” guy’s thread is good and honest or did we shift to “Wellll I don’t think DA’s should exist anyway, man”?

pretty sure we're talking about your version of Morbs's Dennis Perrin tweets

here's a contemporaneous article from the SF Weekly about Harris' conviction rate as DA being *too low* because the majority of her convictions were actually from plea deals and not from cases that went to trial: https://archives.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisco/a-lack-of-conviction/Content?oid=2177022&showFullText=true

make of that what you will, I find most of this conversation tiresome and irrelevant. Anyone that thinks she wants to gain the presidency in order to incarcerate as many poor non-white people as possible is living in a weird echo chamber.

I don't think anyone thinks that

Wait are we still saying “Liberal Case for Trump” guy’s thread is good and honest or did we shift to “Wellll I don’t think DA’s should exist anyway, man”?

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, January 28, 2019 3:25 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you brought this into the thread. the counter case that you've presented with one of your tweets by centrist dolts with 100 followers that you love to paste here which is actually making the argument "making first time non-violent drug offenders do a work program or go to jail is a great thing to have done and Harris should use this in a stump speech" is just a bit counterintuitive and reaching?

The accounts with the most followers are the best

it's more just that they're nobodies with bad opinions. like dennis perrin

bad takes from nobodies are endogenous to this forum, there's no need to import them from social media

Maybe people that realized only just last week (instead of at least two years ago) that Greenwald is bad were really wrong about some other really big stuff? Maybe being one of those people should mean “I take a seat for 6 months/1 year”?

stop posting

Maybe people that realized only just last week (instead of at least two years ago) that Greenwald is bad were really wrong about some other really big stuff? Maybe being one of those people should mean “I take a seat for 6 months/1 year”?

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, January 28, 2019 3:35 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who are these people?

Mischievous types. Troublemakers.

ne'er-do-wells

Oooh the worst.

corner boys and guttersnipes

haven't we been over the fact that there are lots of ways to be a "progressive DA"

progressive displays of affection <3

my da's well progressive

Actual lol xp

DAs do have great discretion when it comes to what sorts of things to prioritize or prosecute at all. these are the sorts of nuances one might miss when one apparently looks to weird twitterers with no known expertise in order to form his positions

harris's defense of the policy in those clips is striking -- definitely the sort of attitude I would want someone to take when they are, as harris notes, justifying a policy I happened to support that required they burn a good amount of their own political capital. and the policy of offering state services to parents whose children are missing school seems like the sort of thing that we should like. I'd be interested in reading a serious review of the law's effects and how many prosecutions actually came out of it (and who tended to be prosecuted) before passing final judgment

Xpost not really. Maybe missed it. There was once a tweet posted that had a list of “progressive prosecutors” but when you looked at the thread there was a lot of contention and back and forth whether a few of the names could be called as such

his first tweet is usually good, but when someone interjects he always returns with a surprisingly weak comeback.
― omar little, Monday, January 28, 2019 6:03 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahahahaha

Yeah i agree with that. From the info provided i have no idea what the effects of this program were and what the alternative to it was.

oh shit that was too deep for me, respect to omar

I agreed with kevin. I can’t keep up with you guys

I would think if someone were concerned about her past as a prosecutor it would be framed as say “What does she plan to do as president wrt the lack of accountability following police shootings of unarmed black men. Yes I hope someone asks her to address that thing that will matter in the future ” instead of “gotcha” stuff from the past meant to be “disqualifying” that often hasn’t held up to scrutiny.

god your sentences are long

Little more bart less lisa nerdstrom.

🛹🤘

I'm concerned that she was a prosecutor, full stop. All else being equal I'd rather vote for a non-prosecutor. My current mayor was a US Attorney and she sucks!

like kamala amirite xxp

who are these people?

Well, gabbneb has already started edging toward Russian plant fanfiction, so...

Then-District Attorney Harris formed a partnership with the [San Francisco] school district to inform parents about their legal duty to ensure that their children attended school, provide parents of chronically truant students with wrap-around services and school-based mediation, and prosecute parents in the most severe cases where other interventions did not work. The initiative also served as a model for SB 1317 (Leno), which defined "chronic truancy" for the first time under state law and established the initiative's model of combining meaningul services with smart sanctions in the California Penal Code. The bill was sponsored by then-District Attorney Harris and enacted into law in 2010.

I would guess that prosecution/conviction numbers are quite low but having trouble finding hard data, since there's already so much noise/crap in any search results related to Harris

many xps

neither here nor there, but I liked her speech yesterday

When did being more law and order require anyone to burn political capital before the last 18 months of Democratic politics?

Okay that’s honest at least and I think that’s more direct distillation/represents where other people here are actually at with this

“I'm concerned that she was a prosecutor, full stop. All else being equal I'd rather vote for a non-prosecutor. My current mayor was a US Attorney and she sucks!”
― Norm’s Superego (silby),

I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, lol. she says it was controversial in the bay area and it's not hard to imagine that being the case xp

Schultz: “Mike Bloomberg has built a great business, was a great mayor, but I don’t agree with his conclusion” that running as a 3rd party candidate helps Trump

— g a b y (@gabydvj) January 29, 2019

well, yeah

I look forward to this guy crashing and burning spectacularly

is he gabbneb?

looking fwd to seeing what happens to this clown's nascent campaign when his company's stock plummets during boycott