2020 Democratic presidential primary

is anyone on this thread a black woman?

because you view the election of the fascist in positive terms because it was “punishment for libs” or whatever.

Ok, gabbneb.

That fb post seems incredibly naive about what it means to be a black woman even in the estimations of black people

Tate arguing with straw men here, I think most people who have been critical of Harris’ prosecutorial record acknowledge that it’s not actually going to hurt her with the broader Dem electorate.

Also, Tate is pretty old by now right? That slangy posting style is lame as hell, I don’t care how long he’s been doing it.

this is one of the major reasons I think Sanders won’t get the nomination https://t.co/H1HhsbfXjB

— chris hooks (@cd_hooks) January 27, 2019

Agree. Twitter/online world is such a teeny part of the electorate.

Kamala Harris has a really nice campaign poster, motif going on.

ilx has terrible recruitment and orientation. I feel like I only knew of 2 black women that were regular ilx posters at one point. Maybe there were more?

There’s truth in what Hooks and Weigel are saying but too many people maybe assume Sanders runs the exact same kind of campaign as before. Not that his core policy focus won’t be the same but if you notice the way he’s incorporated a foreign policy vision into that message might indicate a more sophisticated operation.

Also there’s the possibility that it plays out like the 2016 GOP where instead of everyone lining up around one not-Bernie none of them want to drop out and instead cancel each other out.

Feel like we could work out an orientation program or a buddy system but I wouldn’t know how to go about recruiting anyone

which potential nominee has the best climate policy

I’ve thought of distributing flyers

who knows, maybe our mayor and business leaders gave her campaign a bunch of perks, like the way cities courted Amazon, but like, on a lower level

Oakland is less easy to demonize in the national media than SF? IDK. I went. The speech was decent-mostly generic. She seemed nervous maybe. I'd never heard her speak but for clips from senate hearings. Biggest applause getters were related to health care & racism, followed by climate.

fwiw nerdstrom that house was not rebuilt, and last i checked its sodden, molding, burned-up interior still stands vacant behind plywood under order from the department of buildings. not sure what the status is or where the landlord is financially but everybody who lived there was faced with sudden and very unexpected relocation expenses on top of having to replace between 10% and 95% of their worldly possessions depending how close their rooms were to the start of the fire, and contrary to stereotype several of those folks were not coddled millionaire brooklyn leftists but paycheck-to-paycheck folks with no family resources etc to fall back on. i don't care what dumb overzealous shit sarandon may have said about politics; she chipped in, she has never run for president to my knowledge so she seems somewhat off-topic for this thread, and she made me bawl my eyes out in speed racer as noted. afaict she only gets debated in these conversations because people think getting people to extract concessions about her statements is some kind of way to win points about bernie and/or socialism (????).

No you just have to say what she said is bad. This could have been over WAAAAAAAY upthread. Weirdly no reason why this is somehow impossible .

Holding Treeship's (of all people) feet to the fire and demanding that he post a critical message board comment about something Susan Sarandon (of all people) said about politics two years ago is next-level nebbishy. xps!

“What she said is bad” Nothing questionable or revealing about why that’s like pulling teeth lol

Nerdstrom your posting is bad

some of our political luvvie moral midgets like Marsan/Robinson are so fucking lame, would swap them for DeVito/Sarandon in a microsecond.

Nerdstrom yr actin like Neera Tanden demanding people denounce "corncob bs"

what she said was good btw

ffs can we just ban gabbneb for the nth time

like, this is watching someone troll boringly and voluminously in the comments under a fivethirtyeight article

well, glad I missed today

Lol, Yglesias squares the circle:

Why are so many Bernie voters assholes?

Well, there were ~13 million of them, so if you figure ~2% of them are two standard deviations more assholic than the typical person that’s like 260,000 extreme assholes which is a ton of people.

Math!

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) January 27, 2019

If you think about distributions and figure the average Bernie voter is slightly more likely to be an asshole (it’s a younger and maler group) you end up with a much larger number of right-tail extreme assholes without them being in any way representative of the overall group.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) January 27, 2019

Lmao I just realized Bernie hasn't even actually announced yet

Literally all I’ve been asking for thanks. Tree and Casino couldn’t say the below for whatever reason.

what she said was good btw
― david waster phallus (darraghmac)

that thread is just a long retread of hoary old "he's not even a democrat," "this was all about his dumb ego," and "he should have dropped out at X unspecified time" material, which have all been worked over here ad nauseum since late 2015. bernie ran to shift the window and demonstrate that there was support for a labor/new-deal left nationwide, and succeeded massively. i wonder how many of AOC and her peers we'd be seeing in action in national and local office, or whether M4A would now be a baseline dem position, if the sanders campaign had packed it in when he was "supposed" to.

― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Sunday, January 27, 2019 12:56 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

xpost one reason might be that your dumb schtick of baiting people by casting aspersions on their commitments if they don't jump when you say jump to denounce someone that has been dragged into an argument for no reason of all is p much like that of a tedious high school student

No that’s not it. This is over anyway. The Britisher lady said what you couldn’t say.

will you knock it the fuck off

You’re calling darragh a Britisher lady? Bc wrong on both counts

Oh sorry my mistake

Confused with someone else

The good news is that if we ban gabbneb now he should sneak back in by the time the primaries actually start.

silby did u just assume my empirical subject status

cos..wow

xpost Bernie was never the savior. Everything from his platform has been what some/ a lot of people have been thinking, endorsing, or fighting for their entire lives. Just now, like exactly these last two years since a dirty pervy diaper got elected and people are acknowledging trash sexual predators shouldn't be reaping all the money and power in society are people feeling more compelled adn empowered to run for public office and say these things out loud.

Lmao at the replies

I love our country, and I am seriously considering running for president as a centrist independent.

— Howard Schultz (@HowardSchultz) January 28, 2019

No one is a savior, and American lib politics will be safer if we stand behind causes first, then look to the candidate who best fulfills them at that moment.

Does "lib" there mean liberal or liberatory

god, why would anyone run as an independent centrist anything in life, ever.

yerac otm

x2

He should run with Bloomberg on the too-much-fucking-money unity ticket.

The ralph nader masochist party ticket

They should hearken back to the old days by touring the country in a small plane

Bicycle tour of all 50 states

“Don’t call it a gimmick: Starbucks Whatshisname is brining his vision directly to the people.”

Unicycle tour

I’m tired. Bye guys