2020 Democratic presidential primary

She’s the best ❤️

“It was bad that she said Trump wasn’t dangerous”-Treeship

She taught me how to play the mandolin

I once saw her burning a steel bin full of Vampire Weekend/The 1975 albums and she saved me twos on her cig.

Haha love the bit
https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/07/19/trauma-family-separation-under-trump

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/trump-family-separation-children-border/569584/

Nerdstrom, I just don’t think left outliers like Sarandon can be held responsible for Trump’s election. There were so many other more relevant factors.

Don’t do the “oh oh so she’s solely responsible?”

It’s bad that she said he “wasn’t dangerous”. She’s also obviously a synecdoche for people of everyone downplayed the threat of fascism. This isn’t hard.

She’s just an actress

Reread. It’s not complicated.

the problem is when that becomes, thru vague handwaving and association, somehow a mark against bernie sanders and the idea that competing for the dem nomination on a leftist platform was tantamount to enabling trump. also when it is used against susan sarandon for reasons already outlined.

The only plausible reason you can’t do the fundamental human thing and just agree “it’a bad that she said that the fascist president would t be dangerous and people are right to hate her and people like her” is because you view the election of the fascist in positive terms because it was “punishment for libs” or whatever.

Hey reread this part too. Is this impossible to understand? “She’s also obviously a synecdoche for people of everyone downplayed the threat of fascism. “

*for everyone who

“Right to hate her”?

Yeah. It’s a pretty overt moral failing

As good as Doctor Casino’s posts were about the bass line for the ducktales theme maybe it wouldn’t have been like..,the worst thing had no one helped rebuild the houses of leftie Brooklyn,

Any glance at my posting from late 2015 to present should be enough for you to see I didn’t relish trump’s victory. I like was having a breakdown about it through the whole election. Soto remembers.

nerdstrom stop telling everyone to read your posts its a bad look because theyre bad posts

Nope

kamala harris is doing her official campaign launch right now. pretty sure ppl are protesting

for whatever reason she is doing it in front of Oakland City Hall, even though she is a San Francisco person ... the fact she was super pro-cop and really "tough on crime" doesn't go down well with some people ... more of whom live in Oakland than in San Francisco these days ... I seriously don't understand this choice of location

Nerdstrom, I just don’t think left outliers like Sarandon can be held responsible for Trump’s election. There were so many other more relevant factors.

Exactly, how come the other woman (Thelma?) seems to be escaping any scrutiny in all this?

she should rly consider stepping aside so as not to take away from the bernie vote

well, the news helicopters aren't deafening, so it must not be that big a deal/well attended

If back in the 70s and 80s Bernie had focussed more on infrastructure rather than being an old white man in a crumpled suit there might have been better roads and traffic signs and Susan Sarandon and that other lady might not have ended up driving over that cliff and we wouldn't be in this mess today

maybe someone will be inspired to break the window of the nearby police recruiting office ... it's always heartwarming when that gets done ... kinda missing 2012 tbh

I'm gonna share a few (public) FB posts from Greg Tate re Kamala Harris.

Funny hearing folk say Kamala Harris' campaign is already toast because of her prosecutorial record. Show me an American politician whose career was ever hurt by the number of negroes they helped put in jail? It ain’t hurt Hillary’s 95% Black Vote percentages. And Harris already got The Black Sorors Matrix 3000 percent behind her too? Sheeee. Yawl tripping or don’t know the power of having a jillion Real Black Professional Women on your Ra Ra team. Just because we Black Justice First Up here in this peanut gallery don’t mean we matter. Hell, all her negatives for You People are positives for likely half the non-Negro electorate. In any event we bout a year away from the real campaign season so these predictions are moot as F.

Folk betta recognize: Kamala Harris pledging Alpha at Howard is the Blackety-Black card equivalent of marrying 300,000 Michelles, and counting. That's long term political strategizing like a mutha-for-ya, Sun. ''Consisting of college-educated women of many diverse backgrounds from around the world, the sorority serves through a membership of more than 300,000 women in 1024 chapters in the United States and several other countries.''

Let's also just get this out of the way too while we're projecting our vision of how 2020's Democratic Party Game of Thrones about to play out on the Black Hand side: Kamala Harris being married to a yt man does not present the same disadvantage that Barack being to married to even a light-skinned sister would have - especially among Black Adults Who Actually Plan To Vote. Black Twitter can have at her for all the righteous Justice Movement and wrong-kinda-nigga identity politics reasons but methinks that still adds up to marginal numbers of all the Black Adults Who Actually Plan To Vote.

yeah i think just about everyone in the left/progressive activist community in Oakland knows they are super marginalized politically and that their votes count for shit (if they even do so because they aren't super dogmatic anarchocommunists) but thanks for the reminder

for whatever reason she is doing it in front of Oakland City Hall ... I seriously don't understand this choice of location

She was born in Oakland?

Those fb posts make me really uncomfortable.

In what way?

she was born in an Oakland hospital -- that's her entire connection to Oakland -- as opposed to having been a DA in San Francisco for how many years? Was San Francisco all booked up or something?

¯\(ツ)/¯

It just seems like her campaign ppl were thinking "Oakland = black" as opposed to "Oakland = lots of people who hate cops and the people that are pro-incarceration"

she heard ppl like oaks

who knows, maybe our mayor and business leaders gave her campaign a bunch of perks, like the way cities courted Amazon, but like, on a lower level

Idk unperson. I know the posts are “against” stuff like criticizing harris for having a white husband, but even the specter of that kind of identity politics, is depressing because people should marry who they want. And also this person conflates that kind of thing—which i dont even know how popular it would be—with the legitimate issue of her record as a prosecutor.

or maybe she's also there to promote Barbara Lee's re-election, which would be ok, because Barbara Lee is cool

That fb post seems incredibly naive about what it means to be a black woman even in the estimations of black people

is anyone on this thread a black woman?

because you view the election of the fascist in positive terms because it was “punishment for libs” or whatever.

Ok, gabbneb.

That fb post seems incredibly naive about what it means to be a black woman even in the estimations of black people

Tate arguing with straw men here, I think most people who have been critical of Harris’ prosecutorial record acknowledge that it’s not actually going to hurt her with the broader Dem electorate.

Also, Tate is pretty old by now right? That slangy posting style is lame as hell, I don’t care how long he’s been doing it.

this is one of the major reasons I think Sanders won’t get the nomination https://t.co/H1HhsbfXjB

— chris hooks (@cd_hooks) January 27, 2019

Agree. Twitter/online world is such a teeny part of the electorate.

Kamala Harris has a really nice campaign poster, motif going on.

ilx has terrible recruitment and orientation. I feel like I only knew of 2 black women that were regular ilx posters at one point. Maybe there were more?

There’s truth in what Hooks and Weigel are saying but too many people maybe assume Sanders runs the exact same kind of campaign as before. Not that his core policy focus won’t be the same but if you notice the way he’s incorporated a foreign policy vision into that message might indicate a more sophisticated operation.

Also there’s the possibility that it plays out like the 2016 GOP where instead of everyone lining up around one not-Bernie none of them want to drop out and instead cancel each other out.

Feel like we could work out an orientation program or a buddy system but I wouldn’t know how to go about recruiting anyone