"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

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imago, Saturday, 26 January 2019 19:09 (seven years ago)

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/tvbanners/262620/p262620_b_v8_ab.jpg

Number None, Saturday, 26 January 2019 19:09 (seven years ago)

How much do the BBC pay that senile moron a year?

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 January 2019 19:10 (seven years ago)

my fave senior moment from Humphrys last year was when he introduced Patten as the "former governor of China". Just a misspeak maybe you say, but coming from this arrogant dense twat...

calzino, Saturday, 26 January 2019 19:34 (seven years ago)

bbc is straight up becoming the political equivalent of dads4justice

topical mlady (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 January 2019 20:25 (seven years ago)

I'm really looking forward to the segment on @BBCr4today on Monday morning when John Humphrys interviews a French government minister and demands to know why France won't rejoin the Angevin Empire, so it can carry on trading with Britain after Brexit pic.twitter.com/09njPWwrRB

— Dr Francis Young (@DrFrancisYoung) January 26, 2019

calzino, Saturday, 26 January 2019 21:46 (seven years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx5zGcFXgAI3qR4.jpg

and ppl say it is Corbz who is going turn this country into Venezuela 2.0.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 09:22 (seven years ago)

well that’s one way to take back control i guess

maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 27 January 2019 09:44 (seven years ago)

One in 20 British adults do not believe the Holocaust happened, and 8% say that the scale of the genocide has been exaggerated, according to a poll marking Holocaust Memorial Day.

Almost half of those questioned said they did not know how many Jews were murdered in the Holocaust, and one in five grossly underestimated the number, saying that fewer than two million were killed.

embarrassing, sickmaking .... seriously, fuck this country.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 09:46 (seven years ago)

first world problems: the spread of fake, pro-ignorant historical narratives that suit neo-fascism.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 09:57 (seven years ago)

while I don't always agree w her, grace blakely is a good addition to the lesser NS

||||||||, Sunday, 27 January 2019 10:04 (seven years ago)

I always use up my freebie clicks on Bush.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 10:07 (seven years ago)

if you dismiss the paywall popup and immediately stop the reloading page you can read the whole site

||||||||, Sunday, 27 January 2019 10:19 (seven years ago)

embarrassing, sickmaking .... seriously, fuck this country.

They're actually better than I thought they'd be, I imagine they're worse in many many other countries. Someone recently posted findings of a similar poll in the US which weren't that different.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Sunday, 27 January 2019 10:24 (seven years ago)

If you’re reading in safari the reading view option will get you around quite a lot of paywalls, including that one.

I think lots of places don’t educate well enough on the Holocaust or antisemitism in general. I wouldn’t have known that there was a pogrom in Limerick for example, or about how Charlie Flanagan’s da actually supported the Nazis (!) There isn’t enough done to educate on how the Nazis used centuries of antisemitism in the first place, or how they were not a unique phenomenon that could never occur again.

gyac, Sunday, 27 January 2019 10:30 (seven years ago)

xp
way too high for supposedly such an advanced economy imo, if that poll was a true representation of the population - that's 3million + who think the holocaust DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

I keep forgetting to install safari.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 10:34 (seven years ago)

wasn't it was Corbyn saying that the government was too quick to blame the Putin regime

It's that plus he was wrong - charging in and it turning out that you were right after will always be popular with a certain lot.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 27 January 2019 10:40 (seven years ago)

good old stout-hearted british bulldog spirit will always save the day.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 10:58 (seven years ago)

I saw a bulldog the other day with a poppy badge on his collar, very young guy walking him as well. the future is in good hands.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:01 (seven years ago)

i have to say that some of my more unreconstructed leftist chums still behave as if Russia is the Soviet Union and tend to take a more uncritical line with Putin's bullshit than they'd dream of affording to evil western governments. see also: dorks who approvingly post RT stories

unexplained drinking injuries (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:28 (seven years ago)

I think any Labour MP's appearing on RT should be severely punished, or even thrown out of the party tbh.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:31 (seven years ago)

as illuminating as it is to see Galloway + Salmond "sticking it to the UK MSM" on an oligarch channel idk wtf is going on in some ppls heads. Also going on RT is the very definition of bringing the party into disrepute imo.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:39 (seven years ago)

It’ll be a shame to see David Lammy go but rules are rules.

ShariVari, Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:41 (seven years ago)

..no exceptions I'm afraid, get on the naughty step with Chris Williamson you tool!

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:43 (seven years ago)

idk if it’s a generational thing but young online hard-leftists seem to gravitate much more towards defending China and, sometimes, the DPRK than Russia now.

ShariVari, Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:44 (seven years ago)

Both more nominally still communist, I guess.

unexplained drinking injuries (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:45 (seven years ago)

other things young online hard-leftists love: Cuba, IRA, Venezuela and Bolivia. I don't see enough love for Vietnam and Laos :-(

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:49 (seven years ago)

I was once queuing for hari krishna food outside SOAS and there were people distributing a communist newspaper with the headline "CHINA IS NOT A CAPITALIST COUNTRY" and had to suppress the urge to lecture them about "listen lads, I've lived there for a while and let me tell you it's easily the most capitalist country I've ever been to, really"

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:51 (seven years ago)

Their social credit system is probably the future of western capitalism.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 12:03 (seven years ago)

I've spent some time in Vietnam and know some Vietnamese and what they tell me is it's corrupt from top to bottom. To get an internet connection you have to bribe someone, to get treated at a hospital you have to bribe the receptionist to see a nurse, you have to bribe the nurse to see the resident, you have to bribe the resident to see the specialist, etc etc. It's way more Hobbesian world than anything in the West. All the money is made by communist party cronies who are given govt contracts at ridiculously low prices and immediately sell them on at the market rate. When I was in Ho Chi Minh City I stayed near this car dealership that had like 30 Rollses in a display that would have been outrageously ostentatious in London or Paris. Vietnam is definitely no socialist paradise

Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 27 January 2019 12:18 (seven years ago)

idk if it’s a generational thing but young online hard-leftists seem to gravitate much more towards defending China and, sometimes, the DPRK than Russia now.

Thank fuck I don't know any of these people.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Sunday, 27 January 2019 12:20 (seven years ago)

lol, I wouldn't know where to start if trying mount a defence of the DPRK. They look very happy + well fed in them workout videos I guess and there are plenty of corrupt politicians I'd like to see acquainted with an anti-aircraft gun.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 12:27 (seven years ago)

Calzino I am going out now but I will try and remember to acquaint you with a twitter account or two sometime ;-)

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 January 2019 12:38 (seven years ago)

re: Skripal this is the graph I was shown that is meant to show the impact.

Sorry getting xposted madly here. 1) the strategy bit, 2) right, but the danger is "go into election supporting Leave", which is v. difficult to see happening, 3) apols for iPhone editing, but see attached. They have never recovered from the hit they took there. pic.twitter.com/9jBNaO5cUX

— Allan Donald (@bonaldi) January 6, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 January 2019 12:40 (seven years ago)

this looong article by marxist group Chuang on industrial-capitalist structures and the way it contains worker discontent and rioting is excellent i think and should scotch any sense of China somehow being a worker’s utopia.

and meant to post yesterday but i was drunk and it got a bit ranty but...

good points by xyzzzz__ about corbyn’s international socialism credentials. his speech in switzerland just over a year ago still looks statesmanlike in a way his critics don’t often allow in this regard.

Fizzles, Sunday, 27 January 2019 12:48 (seven years ago)

does look like they took a hit from skripal from that graphic but overall trend in polling is downwards which is what you would expect during period of non-purdah coverage

||||||||, Sunday, 27 January 2019 12:59 (seven years ago)

Why does ILX hate David Lammy again?

imago, Sunday, 27 January 2019 13:59 (seven years ago)

trying to undermine the will of the people iirc

unexplained drinking injuries (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:03 (seven years ago)

does look like they took a hit from skripal from that graphic but overall trend in polling is downwards which is what you would expect during period of non-purdah coverage

I think it's coincidence tbh.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:09 (seven years ago)

Why does ILX hate David Lammy again?

His woeful performance on Celebrity Mastermind.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:12 (seven years ago)

Lammy one of a tiny handful of politicians to emphasise how the public architects of Brexit are making a mint off it. That kind of talk wins you imago points

imago, Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:12 (seven years ago)

Just a pity he didn't make any of his famously emotive speeches when we were fixing to reduce Iraq to rubble.

calzino, Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:17 (seven years ago)

Is that his major negative - voting for the war? I'd almost say that's forgivable now. Or at least...negotiable

imago, Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:19 (seven years ago)

Um

plax (ico), Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:20 (seven years ago)

Has he apologised?

imago, Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:23 (seven years ago)

Do you realise how many people died because of the Iraq war?

plax (ico), Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:23 (seven years ago)

Yeah, millions.

This adds to my point that we need a new generation of politicians untainted by any of the shit of their forebears

imago, Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:24 (seven years ago)

one of the funnier things on here is when supporters of the Iraq war get frustrated that ppl keep citing that as a reason to not take their new opinions seriously. they get so mad! which is funny bc it’s actually very sweet of us to not throw every single one of them in a volcano

— KT Nelson (@KrangTNelson) January 23, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:25 (seven years ago)

Lammy is MP next door to me and I've got a lot of time for him. He has been a tedious centrist on certain issues (cf foreign intervention), and has not always been supportive of our leader, but -
that recent speech in the withdrawal agreement debate was fire, and hit one of the most important issues which Lexiters don't like to look in the face - that Labour voters who voted Leave were lied to, acted on fraudulent information/advice, and it's absolutely right to make that clear. Lammy's alright in my book.

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:26 (seven years ago)

Yeah, millions.

This adds to my point that we need a new generation of politicians untainted by any of the shit of their forebears

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Imagine thinking this crap and going about your daily business.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:38 (seven years ago)


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