2020 Democratic presidential primary

Come to think of it, If the people who are convinced he supports Putin are as numerous as they seem sometimes that would probably even out or overwhelm whatever annoying things his die hards do.

Yeah, this primary is gonna be full of great people on both sides

Oh, weird. Must have been pre quote tweeting?

Oh my God the Heffernan thread is a beaut

And now Bernie’s back trying to tie up, wait for it, Kremlin-foe @KamalaHarris with electrical tape.

she also believes in creationism because ~more interesting stories~

Really hoping the Starbucks CEO guy doesn’t run

Let him run. He'll get about six votes, no one but journalists will give a fuck, and by the time he's done he'll have measurably less money than he had when he started.

Doesn’t even have a constituency in Seattle bc he dumped the Sonics

cant imagine that many dem voters are all that jazzed to vote for a billionaire ceo.

Ross Perot gained traction because he bought half hours of national tv and did funny/insane shit with them. People aren't tethered to broadcast tv anymore, so a 3rd party candidate now would have a serious challenge getting as many eyeballs.

Bernie allying with / campaigning for / possibly being veep candidate to a woman would be a great move and a joy to see. Bernie running = no, please.

Assuming he runs as independent, he seems at least as likely to take votes from trump as whoever the democratic nominee is.

who?

this billionaire will only be in the news for as long as people talk about him. we can all do ourselves a favor and ignore him

Billlionaire(s) - let's not forget Bloomberg

(I mean, let's definitely forget)

He’s on 60 minutes tomorrow. I’m not sure this thread is where lost of the chatter will be.

I think most of us still really like Bernie but he's not the guy anymore.

needs a skateboard, amirite

Sanders has had a major role in re-centering labor issues in American political discourse. It’s essentially a miracle. The hate is baffling.

well, from anyone other than hardcore devotees of Auntie Hillary, to whom he showed insufficient fealty

You can tell that deep down he’s so rad as hell he doesn’t need one brah.
https://commonwealthskateboarding.com/blog/bernie_shreds_stickers_available_online

That’s why the #feeltheBern movement was such a rush for many of us and we’re excited to revisit those days.

Hillary was a #GoldwaterGirl

Bernie didn’t cause hillary to lose. The narrative is dumb. He never went in for the “emails” or anything else. He used the primaries to advance a popular policy agenda and bring to light a longstanding issue with dem pols and their ties to corporate power. This was a point of concern for millions of Democrats including me.

Being mad that primary happened bc it “helped trump” is the same as saying you don’t think there should have been any kind of democratic push to get the party in line with voters’ beliefs and interests.

Bernie had really great campaign t-shirts.

He has a great name. I wish i had a grandpa named bernie.

Of course. I don’t honestly think he had a lot of control over the fact that a lot of of annoying dipshits gravitated toward the campaign. Things take on a life of their own.

Hillary laughed at a rape victim

We live in hell so most of the people here suck.

That wasnt real was it?

Maybe. Who can remember

it wasn't her finest moment but no, she didn't do that:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/19/did-clinton-laugh-about-a-rapists-light-sentence-and-attack-sexual-harassment-victims/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9be97ccce5d6

That was a dumb controversy bc ppl were acting like the guilty don’t deserve legal defense

can't wait for all the "sheesh, not another white guy!!" complaints followed by a tidal wave of horrific anti-semitism if he gets the nom

i mean, for many reasons, these next couple months are going to be a rough time.

by that you mean the next 21 months...

I don't really know why people who loved Bernie in 2016 wouldn't want him to run this time. He's as old as he would have been for a second term if he'd won in 16, he's better prepared, has built up a huge social media communications presence that he uses to push labour and environmental issues, has more Congressional support for his agenda, is better on foreign policy, has made more inroads with minority voters.

he was too old in 2016 tbh, but there weren't other good options in the primary.

It's no longer 2016. I feel like everyone aged 30 years.

I'm not going to devote any energy into shaming Bernie or Bernie supporters. I don't expect he'll win (I don't even expect he'll come in second place this time), but I will get mad if he perpetuates disharmony when the time for that has passed.

he didn't even do that though

that was such a goofy narrative. he endorsed hillary. he was never equivocal about the threat trump posed. it's just a story that he promoted disharmony.

his social media followers were bad bc social media is bad.

goofyunbelievably stupid

Plus at least some portion of those were foreign trolls in the first place.xp

also in the end most of the bernie people came out for hillary.

i would even argue--without evidence, just speculatively, the way we do it--that he helped hillary. i don't think she would have been a stronger candidate if she came to the general without having faced a real primary challenger. she would have seemed like even more of an "annointed" candidate and people would have been even more frustrated about the whole thing.

^ all of these things are true. He was cajoled into supporting Hillary once she was the nominee, but not one minute before. And yes, most of those who voted for him in the primaries voted for Hillary in the general. However, there's a reason we endlessly wrestle over 2016 and, while he might not be the reason, he's central to the topic of discussion. If you can nail down the reason, I'll bake you cookies.

He was cajoled into supporting Hillary once she was the nominee, but not one minute before.

Amazing.

He actively ran against her long after she was the winner. That's indeed a problem.

Yeah, I like the idea that primary candidates should endorse their opponents before they even become the nominee.xp

GODDAMMIT MILO YOU SUCKERED ME INTO AN EXCHANGE. I'M NOT DOING THIS SHIT ANYMORE.