2020 Democratic presidential primary

it's totes "bad faith" to point to Harris's actual record and things Joe Biden has actually said and done

Not necessarily. But definitely some right wingers will claim Trump is better on criminal justice than Harris and at this point the “she’s a cop!” lefties will totally fall for it. Not thrilled w Biden but maybe people accusing him of being a pedophile is insane and bad for progressivism.

But definitely some right wingers will claim Trump is better on criminal justice than Harris and at this point the “she’s a cop!” lefties will totally fall for it.

*are

Basically in line with the actual bad faith centrist "AOC/Bernie is just a leftist Trump" takes.

Nah it’s extremely plausible

The trump is better on criminal justice thing is plausible I mean, we’re practically there if the take on here is “she must be stopped”. Centrists saying AOC is leftist Trump isn’t a thing.

what are y’all even talking about, pls calm down

AOC is a new congresswoman in a safe blue district you found out about 3 months ago.

― Nerdstrom Poindexter,

this is super presumptive to be honest, don't know where you get off jumping to a conclusion like this. it was closer to 4 months you pompous balloon

I like Bernie but I sometimes worry that he’s TOO focused and not a very flexible thinker

I don’t think I really want bernie to run, but he pisses off the right kind of liberals and I am going to need that sort of entertainment for the next 18 months

Sorry Anvil I owe you an apology,

Anyone picking Sanders as VP would be doing an interesting thing, it seems to me

Come to think of it, If the people who are convinced he supports Putin are as numerous as they seem sometimes that would probably even out or overwhelm whatever annoying things his die hards do.

Yeah, this primary is gonna be full of great people on both sides

Oh, weird. Must have been pre quote tweeting?

Oh my God the Heffernan thread is a beaut

And now Bernie’s back trying to tie up, wait for it, Kremlin-foe @KamalaHarris with electrical tape.

she also believes in creationism because ~more interesting stories~

Really hoping the Starbucks CEO guy doesn’t run

Let him run. He'll get about six votes, no one but journalists will give a fuck, and by the time he's done he'll have measurably less money than he had when he started.

Doesn’t even have a constituency in Seattle bc he dumped the Sonics

cant imagine that many dem voters are all that jazzed to vote for a billionaire ceo.

Ross Perot gained traction because he bought half hours of national tv and did funny/insane shit with them. People aren't tethered to broadcast tv anymore, so a 3rd party candidate now would have a serious challenge getting as many eyeballs.

Bernie allying with / campaigning for / possibly being veep candidate to a woman would be a great move and a joy to see. Bernie running = no, please.

Assuming he runs as independent, he seems at least as likely to take votes from trump as whoever the democratic nominee is.

who?

this billionaire will only be in the news for as long as people talk about him. we can all do ourselves a favor and ignore him

Billlionaire(s) - let's not forget Bloomberg

(I mean, let's definitely forget)

He’s on 60 minutes tomorrow. I’m not sure this thread is where lost of the chatter will be.

I think most of us still really like Bernie but he's not the guy anymore.

needs a skateboard, amirite

Sanders has had a major role in re-centering labor issues in American political discourse. It’s essentially a miracle. The hate is baffling.

well, from anyone other than hardcore devotees of Auntie Hillary, to whom he showed insufficient fealty

You can tell that deep down he’s so rad as hell he doesn’t need one brah.
https://commonwealthskateboarding.com/blog/bernie_shreds_stickers_available_online

That’s why the #feeltheBern movement was such a rush for many of us and we’re excited to revisit those days.

Hillary was a #GoldwaterGirl

Bernie didn’t cause hillary to lose. The narrative is dumb. He never went in for the “emails” or anything else. He used the primaries to advance a popular policy agenda and bring to light a longstanding issue with dem pols and their ties to corporate power. This was a point of concern for millions of Democrats including me.

Being mad that primary happened bc it “helped trump” is the same as saying you don’t think there should have been any kind of democratic push to get the party in line with voters’ beliefs and interests.

Bernie had really great campaign t-shirts.

He has a great name. I wish i had a grandpa named bernie.

Of course. I don’t honestly think he had a lot of control over the fact that a lot of of annoying dipshits gravitated toward the campaign. Things take on a life of their own.

Hillary laughed at a rape victim

We live in hell so most of the people here suck.

That wasnt real was it?

Maybe. Who can remember

it wasn't her finest moment but no, she didn't do that:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/19/did-clinton-laugh-about-a-rapists-light-sentence-and-attack-sexual-harassment-victims/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9be97ccce5d6

That was a dumb controversy bc ppl were acting like the guilty don’t deserve legal defense

can't wait for all the "sheesh, not another white guy!!" complaints followed by a tidal wave of horrific anti-semitism if he gets the nom

i mean, for many reasons, these next couple months are going to be a rough time.

by that you mean the next 21 months...

I don't really know why people who loved Bernie in 2016 wouldn't want him to run this time. He's as old as he would have been for a second term if he'd won in 16, he's better prepared, has built up a huge social media communications presence that he uses to push labour and environmental issues, has more Congressional support for his agenda, is better on foreign policy, has made more inroads with minority voters.