Xpost if they would, they wldnt mean it. Bec these assholes think they arent doing anything "wrong."
― nathom, Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
i really believe they know they are doing something wrong and they cover up for each other and themselves since the dawn of timethey know they're doing something wrong and they don't care
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link
i know this is corny but another reason to hope this gets traction for me personally would also be to see some vindication for Corey Feldman, who’s been trying to get attention on the broader sex ring issue since Corey Haim died (maybe even before then too iirc) i mean i ~know~ he’s nutty as a fruitcake now but his commitment to this cause obv comes from a very sincere & clearly painful place
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:00 (five years ago) link
Hoping Ronan Farrow will follow up with a reveal on who has been delivering the threats described at the article's end (as he did with Weinstein).
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link
https://news.avclub.com/as-if-there-was-any-doubt-bryan-singer-will-still-dire-1832033241
― omar little, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:45 (five years ago) link
avi lerner, the piece of shit who himself has been accused of sexual harassment and tried to threaten terry crews when he spoke out
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:48 (five years ago) link
Pretty depressed that some of the most monstrous people called to account for being sexual predators are fellow Jews. Not sure what to do with that feeling.
― Norm’s Superego (silby), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:56 (five years ago) link
not following this at all tbh. like, he works cheap? or is known to deliver projects under budget?
not so much that he works cheap, but rather that his films make lots and lots and lots of money for the studios. agree that he's a mediocre filmmaker, but he does know how to draw in moviegoers.
That Avi Lerner quote says it all: “The over $800 million Bohemian Rhapsody has grossed, making it the highest grossing drama in film history, is testament to his remarkable vision and acumen,” he continued. “I know the difference between agenda driven fake news and reality, and I am very comfortable with this decision. In America people are innocent until proven otherwise.”
Barf.
― Roz, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:25 (five years ago) link
who the fuck is paying money to see bohemian rhapsody? does anyone under 40 listen to Queen? is there a hot youtube star playing brian may that i don't know about? does bowie make a beyond the grave cameo? is there a scene where they're writing "we are the champions" everything about it seems so so bad. i know baby boomers still get to decide what gets nominated for awards but those box office numbers are more than just old white dudes turning out right? why does anyone care? freddy mecury was certainly a charismatic figure but the story of "Queen" isn't what i would have considered interesting enough to be a box office smash.
― dynamicinterface, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:50 (five years ago) link
the youth enjoy this movie
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Friday, 25 January 2019 03:02 (five years ago) link
Didn't Titanic have bigger box office than that?
― nickn, Friday, 25 January 2019 03:11 (five years ago) link
Millennials loved Queen even before the movie.
― Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 January 2019 03:21 (five years ago) link
right? Queen is ridiculously popular and young people see Freddie Mercury as a musical genius. also the general public's music taste is hella basic and people would have gone to see it regardless of who the director was. (this is also why the Mamma Mia! movies were huge hits, even though half the cast couldn't carry a tune).
― Roz, Friday, 25 January 2019 03:40 (five years ago) link
i'm a millennial (i think?) and ii literally have no recollection of Queen being an american pop culture touchstone other than the bit in wayne's world. i work at a small liberal arts college and have never seen anything to clue me in to Queen being popular amongst the youth. i've seen Joy Division, Black Sabbath, Big Star, Led Zeppelin etc. on tees but never Queen. i just don't understand what makes them more appealing subject matter for an imaginary movie than any other band from the last 40 years.
having said that, i fully acknowledge that I'm no authority on this subject matter. it just seems odd that no one I know likes Queen at all.
― dynamicinterface, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:10 (five years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 25 January 2019 04:27 (five years ago) link
i was probably being overly generous, i think Singer is genuinely a very bad filmmaker. No imagination, no real style, brings nothing to the table except apparently a manila envelope with compromising photos idk. when I saw Usual Suspects it felt like a real con job of a movie, like a decent calling card for a screenwriter but certainly no classic. and fuck i mean for example Superman Returns was about five hours long, each hour longer than the previous, and no one has ever wanted to see it again and everyone has forgotten its existence.
― omar little, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:41 (five years ago) link
Ha, when I saw Superman Returns mentioned in the article I was thinking, "Did that actually get released?"
― jmm, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:49 (five years ago) link
how the fuck has BoHo made 800 mil
I know Queen are still super popular & basic (hence huge numbers) but still. STILL
― flappy bird, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:54 (five years ago) link
That 800 Mil is worldwide gross, no?
― Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 January 2019 04:57 (five years ago) link
Yup, $200 Mil domestic: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2018&p=.htm
― Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 January 2019 05:02 (five years ago) link
Ohh
.....still?
― flappy bird, Friday, 25 January 2019 05:07 (five years ago) link
Looked up Titanic, $2.1 billion worldwide.
Avatar $2.7B but maybe that's not a "drama."
― nickn, Friday, 25 January 2019 05:42 (five years ago) link
Queen is great, you herbs
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 January 2019 07:19 (five years ago) link
NB he was the band’s first choice to direct the Queen pic, not the studio’s.not their first, since he didn’t come on until about seven years into active development, and was replaced mid-production by the director who’d been signed four years earlier but walked bcz he thought the “band”’s approach to the script was dumb and bad, a year or two after the star had walked bcz he thought the band’s approach to the script was dumb and bad
― sans lep (sic), Friday, 25 January 2019 08:38 (five years ago) link
^ not a major nitpick in this thread’s specific context, but it took a while to find a team who was really keen to tell a bland story that glossed over the sexual attitudes of the protagonist, and...
― sans lep (sic), Friday, 25 January 2019 08:40 (five years ago) link
he was very hot coming off Usual Suspects but x-men/x2 and bohemian rhapsody were can’t-miss and the rest is box office disappointment if not out and out flops. Superman Returns? Jack the Giant-Killer?
Superman Returns is his second-highest grossing film in adjusted dollars!
Rank Title (click to view) Studio Adjusted Gross Unadjusted Gross Release1 X2: X-Men United Fox $321,889,800 $214,949,694 5/2/032 Superman Returns WB $275,837,100 $200,081,192 6/28/063 X-Men Fox $263,528,100 $157,299,717 7/14/004 X-Men: Days of Future Past Fox $254,041,000 $233,921,534 5/23/145 Bohemian Rhapsody Fox $203,079,400 $203,079,367 11/2/186 X-Men: Apocalypse Fox $160,860,200 $155,442,489 5/27/167 Valkyrie UA $100,963,000 $83,077,833 12/25/088 Jack the Giant Slayer WB (NL) $73,849,500 $65,187,603 3/1/139 The Usual Suspects Gram. $48,453,900 $23,341,568 8/18/9510 Apt Pupil Sony $17,065,000 $8,863,193 10/23/98
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Friday, 25 January 2019 13:12 (five years ago) link
gross has to be compared against budget and expectations. point of all of this being, how does a guy with Singer’s track record and known baggage keep getting major gigs?
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
i think Singer is genuinely a very bad filmmaker. No imagination, no real style, brings nothing to the table except apparently a manila envelope with compromising photos idk.
Disagree, with X2 as evidence. I didn't mind him in the early '00s when he treated the genre seriously and added queer subtexts.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link
― dynamicinterface, Thursday, January 24, 2019 9
I don't blame you for not hanging around teenagers, but the movie was a big deal to them, at least the ones I talked to over the holiday break: Mom and Dad listening to Queen with the kids, with Mom and Dad themselves converted in 1992.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link
^^ check out. 'Queen Greatest Hits II' (that blue one) was released in 1991 and I remember that cd begin *everywhere* at the time.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:33 (five years ago) link
*checks
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link
Good Omens injoke about every car containing a cassette of Queen’s Greatest Hits is troooooooo
― suzy, Friday, 25 January 2019 16:42 (five years ago) link
added queer subtexts.I mean, I can’t read more than three panels of Claremont before my eyes dry up, but I’m given to understand he baked the subtext into the source pretty richly
― sans lep (sic), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link
i agree Singer took the genre seriously and X2 is fine, but he's very uninspired. the subtext alone isn't much to write home about imo bc it's not done very interestingly. I won't draw a line in the sand there because i have no real issue w/anyone thinking he's solid, since that's all separate from the larger issues at play at present. I guess the main question is, why is Bryan Singer of all filmmakers too valuable as a talent to exile? He is a replacement level talent, at best. This is not a new thing, these allegations have gone back for twenty years and unlike other rumors the stories ring true.
― omar little, Friday, 25 January 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
he's not talented enough for me to protest a blacklist, so throw'em in the thorns
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link
Singer kinda takes me back to the days of late-'90s AOL movie message boards when people would list their "best filmmakers of all time" and the lists would be like Hitchcock, Scorsese, Kubrick, Tarantino, Darabont, Singer, Kevin Smith.
― omar little, Friday, 25 January 2019 16:52 (five years ago) link
have not seen any Singer films except Usual Suspects, which was a decent stunt-noir I suppose. I think you can tell he loves 16-year-olds from his subsequent filmography.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link
why is Bryan Singer of all filmmakers too valuable as a talent to exile?
or, is bryan singer even the low bar? how far down could you go? is the guy who directed deuce bigalow too big to throw under the bus?
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
Hollywood is an industry run by cargo-cultists; nobody who has ever delivered the cargo is too foul to run off the island.
― Norm’s Superego (silby), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:11 (five years ago) link
people are maybe overlooking the general entertainment industry omertà and the fact that bryan singer knows where the bodies are buried wrt lots of other powerful influential men in hollywood
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link
is the guy who directed deuce bigalow too big to throw under the bus?Lego Movie 2 isn’t out for two weeks, you’d better hurry up if you want to cancel him
― sans lep (sic), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link
people are maybe overlooking the general entertainment industry omertà and the fact that bryan singer knows where the bodies are buried wrt lots of other powerful influential men in hollywood― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, January 25, 2019 12:12 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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BINGO
― flappy bird, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link
Wonder if it was the same for R Kelly.
― nathom, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:17 (five years ago) link
I don't think it's as complicated as any of these theories.
I think it's more like this: If Singer loses work based on rumours and articles, (or the three lawsuits that I can recall have been dismissed-- Apt Pupil, Michael Egan, John Doe), it leaves the studios that are terminating his employment open to wrongful dismissal suits.
Should a studio fire Singer over these rumours and articles, It may also leave his allegers open to graver suits of defamation-- if any allegations against Singer cause him to lose work, he can cite the lost work as damages incurred in defamation suits against his allegers.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link
I think it’s pretty easy to not give him more work, Bohemian Rhapsody’s production sounds like it was a debacle and if they can’t point to these allegations they can point to his recent work history.
― omar little, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link
Meantime...
On a 10-min break halfway through Sundance’s 4-hour Michael Jackson child sex abuse documentary. Whatever you thought you knew or were aware of, the content of this is more disturbing than you could imagine. And again, we’re only halfway through.— Kevin Fallon (@kpfallon) January 25, 2019
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:55 (five years ago) link
There's a lot of discussion of whether artistically or financially Singer merits the protection he's been given
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 January 2019 19:00 (five years ago) link
idk, speaking for myself it’s not whether he merits protection or whatever. as also noted above, unwinding existing agreements is thorny. the question I’m asking is why a replacement-value director with heavy baggage keeps getting hired for new projects when there are plenty of replacement-value directors without baggage.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 25 January 2019 19:06 (five years ago) link
still a lotta MJ defenders I see
xps
― Οὖτις, Friday, 25 January 2019 19:16 (five years ago) link