2020 Democratic presidential primary

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I think publicly backing republicans is incredibly shitty but I’m also a little squeamish about the word “disqualifying” getting tossed out when we’re over a year out from the first primary. At this rate everyone’s gonna be disqualified in the next six months. I’ve already seen the same verdict (no pun intended) passed down on Harris for her prosecutorial record. And I’m not defending that either, it’s just I already see the precise battle lines of 2016 getting redrawn again.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:32 (five years ago) link

Robocop for prez

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:33 (five years ago) link

when we’re over a year out from the first primary

Debates begin in June. The field will be heavily culled by Thanksgiving.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:39 (five years ago) link

it is happening again

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:48 (five years ago) link

It never stopped

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:56 (five years ago) link

New (as yet unread-by-me) Bernie profile in GQ

https://www.gq.com/story/bernie-sanders-unfinished-business/amp?__twitter_impression=true

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link

This is interesting, if true

“When Bernie Sanders ran for president four years ago, it was something he didn’t initially want to do. Before the 2016 campaign, he’d tried to persuade Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts senator and his closest friend in the Senate, to run against Clinton. It was only after Warren told him no that Sanders decided to enter the race himself. “He said, ‘Okay, I have to do it, because someone has to represent this viewpoint,’ ” a Democratic strategist with ties to Sanders told me.”

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link

yeah, assuming he still feels the same way about Warren's politics, it would seem to imply he's likely to find it unnecessary to run himself in 2020.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:45 (five years ago) link

i mean, if he really cares about nothing else besides elevating the positions and priorities he cares most about, I feel like running would likely do more to split the lefty vote than it would to move all the candidates leftward.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link

Things have changed in his national profile since then. It’s possible that now he thinks he has a better shot at winning than she would.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link

yeah but she's already definitely running, and I think there's a definite intersection of folks who want a really left candidate but also want a woman/someone not Bernie/someone slightly less than 200 years old (I know Warren's pretty old herself).

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link

Sen. Jeff Merkeley (D-Ore) is postponing his decision whether to run in 2020. Hardly surprising, given that Warren has announced already and he's a natural ally of hers, so it makes sense to stand back and give her a clearer field on the left. If she falters early, he could conceivably pick up the torch.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:52 (five years ago) link

The idea raised in that piece that Gabbard or Brown count as "Bernie 2.0s" is uhhh

Brown literally just backtracked on M4A, iirc

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

I don't really buy the idea that Warren and Sanders are basically political twins either

https://newrepublic.com/article/151871/essential-difference-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link

anyone who isn't a dyed in the wool partisan hack is draws bernie comparisons

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link

Sure definitely thread that needle

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link

Kiese Laymon wrote a really good post:

"...But I hope all of us who know what Kamala, Cory and Barry did or had to do to be presidential in this country question also what we had to do to be hired, to be tenured, to not go to jail, to pay for our families' needs. It ain't the same thing, aint same scale, but in dissing and critiquing folk who need critique as anti-black public servants, I hope we also critique the varied ways we satisfy, titillate and bargain with white power in order to eat. We can do both. I teach at a school called Ole Miss and not a school called Jackson State because a school called Ole Miss pays me more, though a school called Jackson State raised me and loved my mama, father, aunties and cousin. All critiques of these feckless politicians have to start there."
― Yerac, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 1:33 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

where is this from?

tsrobodo, Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link

btw go fuck yourself terminally, mr 'sock' asshole

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link

?

tsrobodo, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:34 (five years ago) link

morbs is usually better at sidesteppin' the FPs

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link

I am guessin that that is directed at NP and Morbz thinks he is a sock? idk

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:40 (five years ago) link

no

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:44 (five years ago) link

see last night

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link

SCOOP: @SenWarren is proposing a "wealth tax" on those with more than $50 million, in an attempt to combat soaring wealth inequality

The tax would hit those above $50M w/ a 2% wealth tax, & those above $1B w/ 3% wealth tax. Would raise $2.75T/10 yearshttps://t.co/Vllt3M3I9a

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) January 24, 2019

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:44 (five years ago) link

I believe this is the most aggressive attempt to go after the concentration of resources in the wealthiest 0.1% of any 2020 Dem candidate

Big name economists Emmanuel Saez and @gabriel_zucman have been advising Warren on it

The $2.75T would come from about 75,000 families

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) January 24, 2019

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:45 (five years ago) link

eat the rich plz thank u

Norm’s Superego (silby), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:47 (five years ago) link

idk, kinda fatty

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link

Maybe this will halt the weirdly successful retconning of Warren as generic moderate Dem

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:17 (five years ago) link

she's a capitalist; close enough

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 January 2019 00:20 (five years ago) link

Hey where do you rank 1932’s “The Purchase Price” among the Wellman pre-codes?

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:23 (five years ago) link

Honestly, she would be a fantastic president. She has the sophistication of a “mainstream” dem and the healthy hatred of the rich as a Bernie. The unwillingness of some to take her seriously seems extremely sexist.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:25 (five years ago) link

She’s not rosa luxembourg but for a democrat she is extremely principled. I’ll probably vote for her unless when it comes to NY it looks like some other left candidate is in a more competitive position to beat one of the more centrist candidates.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:27 (five years ago) link

It makes no sense to me why she isn’t the early favorite. She seems by far the most predictable and trustworthy and she likes the policies left-liberals like, which is supposedly where the party is moving.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link

President Trump followed by President Warren, that would restore a little of my faith

Dan S, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link

She isnt the early favorite because her media persona is clumsy/hokey as fuck imo

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:37 (five years ago) link

Fucking good

Trϵϵship, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link

Folksy and hokey is a change of pace from our current, demonic and transgressive president who builds skyscrapers with his name on them

Trϵϵship, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link

As a millennial I think it’s cool, even. She is normcore.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:41 (five years ago) link

Haha she is def normcore

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:42 (five years ago) link

The Purchase Price is decent, mostly cuz of Stanwyck

I genuinely fear that the Grifter can beat a 70ish white woman, presuming he's still ambulatory.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 January 2019 00:43 (five years ago) link

RT @rr_nyc: Tired of hearing how morbidly obese poor don't have food either. Employment is ennobling, even min wage, get 2 jobs

— Cory Booker (@CoryBooker) December 7, 2012



It is absolutely incredible to me that his team didn't go through his old tweets. Or worse, maybe they did?

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 00:43 (five years ago) link

Pharma stuff is bad but he wasn't agreeing w/that tweet--just quoting it to respond w/thishttps://t.co/OVlemTh7Fe

— Uproarious B.I.G (@atlsportscholar) January 13, 2017

Trϵϵship, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:45 (five years ago) link

I’m no booker fan but it looks like he was disagreeing with that sentiment not agreeing with it

Trϵϵship, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:46 (five years ago) link

Oh, weird. Must have been pre quote tweeting?

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 00:46 (five years ago) link

I guess? I used twitter briefly in that era but all i remember is getting mad at ryan schreiber and making an account for my dog

Trϵϵship, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:48 (five years ago) link

Lol

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 00:49 (five years ago) link

It makes no sense to me why she isn’t the early favorite

why do you think there is, or should be, a favourite this early

sans lep (sic), Friday, 25 January 2019 01:40 (five years ago) link

It makes no sense to me why she isn’t the early favorite. She seems by far the most predictable and trustworthy and she likes the policies left-liberals like, which is supposedly where the party is moving.

― Trϵϵship, Thursday, January 24, 2019 7:29 PM (one hour ago)

agree, she's my preferred candidate of those who are running

k3vin k., Friday, 25 January 2019 01:59 (five years ago) link

her media persona is clumsy/hokey as fuck imo

George W. Bush was elected twice. He was clumsy, hokey, AND dumb as fuck, so...

Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 January 2019 03:16 (five years ago) link


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