2020 Democratic presidential primary

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you would think polls like this would push it to the top of anybody's agenda:
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/426411-record-number-of-americans-consider-climate-change-a-personal-issue

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link

I'm not about to go searching for it now but some asshead on Twitter yesterday basically said that there is no good-faith way to criticize Harris from the left without doing Putin's bidding. He got more or less mercilessly dragged, but good lord.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link

it's really impressive (and sad) how many regular ass people love playing DNC mouthpiece dress-up

k3vin k., Tuesday, 22 January 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link

speaking of which, more Putin stooges at work!!

More on Kamala Harris. I'm especially troubled by comments from SF public defender Jeff Adachi and lawyer Anne Weills, both of whom I respect. They asked Harris to investigate local police departments for killing black citizens. She ignored them. https://t.co/I0pNAMvodv

— James Forman, Jr. (@JFormanJr) January 22, 2019

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link

well BLM was created by the FSB obv

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 17:28 (five years ago) link

The primary lesson Dems learned from their 2016 debacle is that they should slime socialists *before* the primaries. Waaay before.

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) January 23, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 23:02 (five years ago) link

Perrin thinks Harris is a socialist?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 23:04 (five years ago) link

hardee har

her minions are da shmearers

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 January 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link

Some of Hillary's flock have anointed Kamala Harris as the Dem nominee, and if you don't like her you can piss off, but she's still owed your vote because you must follow orders. It's early, but I believe the Dems are gonna fuck this up even bigger than before.

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) January 22, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 January 2019 01:08 (five years ago) link

I, for one, am on the edge of my seat with what Perrin has for us next.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 January 2019 01:10 (five years ago) link

xp - Yes, those are two complete grammatical sentences containing many words which have been assembled into an opinion.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 January 2019 01:12 (five years ago) link

are we even sure that Perrin is not just a Morbs sock account he made to have someone to agree with?

iatee, Thursday, 24 January 2019 01:55 (five years ago) link

I’ve never seen them in the same room

Norm’s Superego (silby), Thursday, 24 January 2019 02:01 (five years ago) link

say what you will about perrin, didn't i post the email i got from a harris supporter last summer who googled me to find my work email address after i was quoted in an article being gently skeptical

the attack-readiness is real

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 24 January 2019 02:11 (five years ago) link

harrisment

topical mlady (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 January 2019 02:17 (five years ago) link

though let me qualify that by mentioning that after my prior org asked bernie people to support hilary i got harassed over several days by many people

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 24 January 2019 02:39 (five years ago) link

so we just live in hell now, is the thing

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 24 January 2019 02:40 (five years ago) link

it's a big country and 0.03% of everyone living in it is still roughly 100,000 people. so, citing the harassment done by 'many' people proves that many people are willing to harass others over your position on X issue or over your opinion of Y candidate, but accurate generalizing from that fact is very tricky.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 January 2019 04:09 (five years ago) link

no I’m pretty sure everything said about “bernie bros” was totally accurate and generalizable

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 January 2019 04:20 (five years ago) link

Yeah I'd rather it was a false narrative but it just isn't

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 24 January 2019 04:44 (five years ago) link

didn't i post the email

LITTLE DIGITAL STRATEGIST

j., Thursday, 24 January 2019 04:48 (five years ago) link

I think publicly backing republicans is incredibly shitty but I’m also a little squeamish about the word “disqualifying” getting tossed out when we’re over a year out from the first primary. At this rate everyone’s gonna be disqualified in the next six months. I’ve already seen the same verdict (no pun intended) passed down on Harris for her prosecutorial record. And I’m not defending that either, it’s just I already see the precise battle lines of 2016 getting redrawn again.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:32 (five years ago) link

Robocop for prez

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:33 (five years ago) link

when we’re over a year out from the first primary

Debates begin in June. The field will be heavily culled by Thanksgiving.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:39 (five years ago) link

it is happening again

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:48 (five years ago) link

It never stopped

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:56 (five years ago) link

New (as yet unread-by-me) Bernie profile in GQ

https://www.gq.com/story/bernie-sanders-unfinished-business/amp?__twitter_impression=true

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link

This is interesting, if true

“When Bernie Sanders ran for president four years ago, it was something he didn’t initially want to do. Before the 2016 campaign, he’d tried to persuade Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts senator and his closest friend in the Senate, to run against Clinton. It was only after Warren told him no that Sanders decided to enter the race himself. “He said, ‘Okay, I have to do it, because someone has to represent this viewpoint,’ ” a Democratic strategist with ties to Sanders told me.”

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link

yeah, assuming he still feels the same way about Warren's politics, it would seem to imply he's likely to find it unnecessary to run himself in 2020.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:45 (five years ago) link

i mean, if he really cares about nothing else besides elevating the positions and priorities he cares most about, I feel like running would likely do more to split the lefty vote than it would to move all the candidates leftward.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link

Things have changed in his national profile since then. It’s possible that now he thinks he has a better shot at winning than she would.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link

yeah but she's already definitely running, and I think there's a definite intersection of folks who want a really left candidate but also want a woman/someone not Bernie/someone slightly less than 200 years old (I know Warren's pretty old herself).

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link

Sen. Jeff Merkeley (D-Ore) is postponing his decision whether to run in 2020. Hardly surprising, given that Warren has announced already and he's a natural ally of hers, so it makes sense to stand back and give her a clearer field on the left. If she falters early, he could conceivably pick up the torch.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:52 (five years ago) link

The idea raised in that piece that Gabbard or Brown count as "Bernie 2.0s" is uhhh

Brown literally just backtracked on M4A, iirc

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

I don't really buy the idea that Warren and Sanders are basically political twins either

https://newrepublic.com/article/151871/essential-difference-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link

anyone who isn't a dyed in the wool partisan hack is draws bernie comparisons

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link

Sure definitely thread that needle

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link

Kiese Laymon wrote a really good post:

"...But I hope all of us who know what Kamala, Cory and Barry did or had to do to be presidential in this country question also what we had to do to be hired, to be tenured, to not go to jail, to pay for our families' needs. It ain't the same thing, aint same scale, but in dissing and critiquing folk who need critique as anti-black public servants, I hope we also critique the varied ways we satisfy, titillate and bargain with white power in order to eat. We can do both. I teach at a school called Ole Miss and not a school called Jackson State because a school called Ole Miss pays me more, though a school called Jackson State raised me and loved my mama, father, aunties and cousin. All critiques of these feckless politicians have to start there."
― Yerac, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 1:33 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

where is this from?

tsrobodo, Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link

btw go fuck yourself terminally, mr 'sock' asshole

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link

?

tsrobodo, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:34 (five years ago) link

morbs is usually better at sidesteppin' the FPs

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link

I am guessin that that is directed at NP and Morbz thinks he is a sock? idk

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:40 (five years ago) link

no

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:44 (five years ago) link

see last night

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link

SCOOP: @SenWarren is proposing a "wealth tax" on those with more than $50 million, in an attempt to combat soaring wealth inequality

The tax would hit those above $50M w/ a 2% wealth tax, & those above $1B w/ 3% wealth tax. Would raise $2.75T/10 yearshttps://t.co/Vllt3M3I9a

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) January 24, 2019

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:44 (five years ago) link

I believe this is the most aggressive attempt to go after the concentration of resources in the wealthiest 0.1% of any 2020 Dem candidate

Big name economists Emmanuel Saez and @gabriel_zucman have been advising Warren on it

The $2.75T would come from about 75,000 families

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) January 24, 2019

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:45 (five years ago) link

eat the rich plz thank u

Norm’s Superego (silby), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:47 (five years ago) link

idk, kinda fatty

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link

Maybe this will halt the weirdly successful retconning of Warren as generic moderate Dem

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:17 (five years ago) link


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