"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

Why didn't the poll have 'stop brexit' on it?

Yeah that strikes me as such a big omission that the rest of the poll is basically worthless.

23% for second ref and over 30% for no deal. Pathetic.

I don't think this reflects real levels of support either. If both a second poll *and* a Remain win became serious prospects, which they currently aren't, support for that option would rocket. Additionally some/lots of that vote is siphoned off in other polls by the option of 'No Brexit at all'.

Ultimately we're still in a situation where nearly half the country would, given the choice, still opt to Remain. It's not like there's a massive groundswell of people moving over to the Leave side.

I think we could do with less of treating “just get on with it! Bored now!” as a serious opinion worth considering.

I think quite a lot of ppl who voted remain think it's no longer viable

Honestly as someone who does follow this nonsense closely, things change so frequently that I don’t blame people for feeling defeatist about the whole thing. It’s exhausting.

I feel like "Remain" and "No Deal" could both win a second referendum - I can't really see who it is that wants anything else

No Deal is still a minority preference by some distance, somewhere between 2/3 and 3/4 of the population want some kind of deal. Unless things change rapidly I don't see the point of worrying too much about them.

According to that poll over half of the country still want some kind of Brexit then if we include no deal as a brand of brexit. A 1/3 want no deal, that's not a minority. Nor is 2nd ref but you got to laugh that more want to go now.

One option not on the poll is revoking art50 or even cancelling Brexit.

Poll isn't really clear on that though, it's multi-choice (the percentages add up to 150% or something) so you can't really see exactly what percentage of people want the Brexit options, unless that's broken down somewhere else

Lol ok its got to add up and also it should include (as stet first said) the cancel brexit option.

Also one option for 'too many options'.

"Ultimately we're still in a situation where nearly half the country would, given the choice, still opt to Remain. It's not like there's a massive groundswell of people moving over to the Leave side"

This is true, but if the reality of public opinion is close to this guesstimate it's also a big problem for People's Vote fans. If the split is still that tight in either direction it makes any kind of ref 2 a charge of the light brigade scenario.

kinnock to the left of them, bannon to the right

they should make any new ref non-binding

Yeah the margin is still too tight for a 2nd ref not to be a massive risk. Kicking the can down the road feels like the only realistic or viable scenario right now.

you'll want to check if theres any beans left in the bottom of it first the way its going

"kinnock to the left of them, bannon to the right"

good work :D

here i am
stuck in the backstop with EU

no wait we have definitely done this

alfred, lord sotorantino

I used to think "what a shame Brexit has deflected attention from all the important things" but now I'm more line "at least Brexit is leaving these arseholes too busy to break much else, let's just let them keep kicking the can through the quagmire".

Just dropping in for obvs joke about Kinnock being left of anyone.

the pun chose me tbf, I couldn't really think about it

kinnock to the left of them, bannon to the right

― imago, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 5:06 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ahhhyeah

I think quite a lot of ppl who voted remain think it's no longer viable

Uh-huh.

Remain is still non-viable for Labour to back but I think it becomes very viable once on a ballot or as a default in case of no agreement.

Chris Williamson, helpful as always, popped up earlier today to tell the world that he's pretty chill about a No Deal Brexit.

Fucking idiot already has the deathly pallor of some insect eating creepazoid, so I'm sure he's totally chill about no deal.

Any attempts by Remainer MPs to delay or obstruct #Brexit must be opposed. Today I have formally asked Polish Government to veto any motions by EU to allow extension of Article 50. We are leaving 11pm on March 29th as promised @StandUp4Brexit

— Daniel Kawczynski (@DKShrewsbury) January 22, 2019

Xp Sir you're describing the entire NuLab ethos

dyson's are shite anyway. buy miele

Buy Henry!

As a goodbye to Dyson from the UK here’s my tribute to his horrible hand-dryer. From ⁦@iconeye⁩ 164 pic.twitter.com/QeNw2NfZVG

— edwin heathcote (@edwinheathcote) January 22, 2019

When you need to hoover up some rubble I'm a pure Dewalt user myself, but apparently Dyson are shit at blowing piss of drunk ppls hands as well.

I'm not entirely convinced that the Polish government, with thousands of citizens over here, will be greatly swayed by the Member of Parliament for Shrewsbury.

dyson vacuum cleaners are quite good. the hand-dryers are bobbins. the hand-dryers ATTACHED EITHER SIDE OF THE TAP that they make are one of the dumbest things I've ever encountered

Lmao, so Daniel Kawcynski is asking the EU to bypass England's sovereignty

I was gonna say

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/8257029/

this would be wild af

praesee for libcuck who doesn't want to click on the sun

THE Tories will lose a snap general election because they are woefully underprepared to fight one, party chiefs have concluded.

Senior Conservative officials have privately warned Theresa May that she could face disaster if she calls a new nationwide poll to try to unblock the Brexit logjam.

Secret party projections instead put Jeremy Corbyn in No10, at the helm of a rainbow coalition government including the SNP and the Lib Dems.

In another blow for the PM’s prospects, new research carried out by a senior former No10 adviser to Mrs May has revealed dozens of sitting Tory MPs are facing ultra tight marginal races.
The alarm-bell internal Conservative Party assessment – whose findings have been shared with The Sun – reveals:

The Tories’ data base of voters nationwide is badly out of date and now far behind Labour’s, having seen little update since 2015.
The party’s grass roots membership is badly demoralised, after many months of infighting with CCHQ over money and structural reforms.
The Tories currently don’t even have an opinion polling firm under contract – seen as all-important to fight any election – with a tender currently out to hire a new one.
With its massive new army of close to 500,000 members, Labour are now seen to severely outgun the Tories and have deployed them to compile a substantial database of voters to target in any ‘ground war’.

The bombshell comes after some Tory MPs have begun to call for a snap election to solve the Brexit deadlock in Parliament, preferring it to a second referendum.

when is the deadline for announcing no deal as official policy

My God, the unnamed senior minister quote:

“If you knock on a door and they have books on their shelves, you can be pretty sure these days they’re not voting Tory.”

it's not so much about voting the tories out tbf, it's about never voting them back in again

But, according to Fiona Bruce and the BBC (aka the propaganda wing of Conservative Central Office), they're comfortably ahead in the polls.

dozens of sitting Tory MPs are facing ultra tight marginal races.

I fucking hate the cunts but we really need a Lib Dem revival to unseat a few of these.

Anyway, it's all cloud cuckoo stuff, they're not going anywhere near a GE any time soon.

I was more intrigued by the Scotland stuff because afaict Labour still polls really badly up there? I do remember Corbyn getting a good reception in 2017 though despite SLab’s awful performance.

I don't think it's changed that much since the last election. The Tories are hoovering up the Billy Boy vote and SLab are making no inroads into the SNP vote.

not sure how you'd make significant inroads into supporters of the independence party without adding independence to your plank

... scratch that, current predictions have Labour winning 2 seats, lol.

And even though I'm a Labour Party member, I still will probably ed up voting SNP because Labour never do anything in NE Fife, so in order to keep the tories/LDs out...