Rolling Maleness and Masculinity Discussion Thread

its actually a native american ritual iirc

as far as i can tell "chud" exists solely to noun "maga"

well anyway

search function shows me “chud” was used in its common form, not referencing the movie itself, in 2004

like we’re not alone here, it was a term used among a bunch of internet and irl communities prior to trumpism. please don’t let trump ruin “chud”

Now that I think about it, The Simpsons is probably responsible for its return/rise - there was a throwaway gag about the sewers being full of CHUDs in the Simpsons-go-to-NYC episode (the one that never gets re-aired because it's got the World Trade Center in it).

xp he is not ruining it he is revealing its essence

chud/chad/choad
none of them are good

I use choad a lot these last several years. It really perfectly embraces a lot of men in the US.

by "none of them are good" i meant the people referred to as chud/chad/choad are not good; the words themselves are fine!!

the word CHOAD itself brings me great satisfaction to use tbh

Proto-Estonians are having their good name dragged through the mud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chud

It's such a weird cognitive dissonance to see a choad make a derogatory comment about how a women looks. I will go off. Like, are there no mirrors in your basement? How dare you.

what if the choad comments on how tedious the woman's opinions are

same.

consistent!

i dunno i just think it's super sw8 how every thread on ile sinks into the 'trump brexit chud men are stupid'x1000000 posts format after a while, great convos

And yet here you are.

offering a male point of view that is worthwhile. i am a man. i am strong.

such will.

I'm curious as to how choad made it from (as Wiktionary claims) Hindi into 90s American stoner slang, the first place I encountered it... there is what I would consider to be a suspicious 100-year gap in the list of attestations.

OED:

Origin: Of unknown origin.
Etymology: Origin unknown.

Perhaps compare Hindi codnā (of a man) to have sexual intercourse, cod-ghar brothel, codū (adjective) lascivious, (noun) lascivious man

Earliest citation is Zap Comics no 3, 1968

I don't buy the Hindi connection, really. Was thinking maybe some riff on Spanish's joder but that doesn't make sense either. My money's on an English neologism.

Proto-Estonians are having their good name dragged through the mud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chud

― jmm

but not as badly as the 1987 sami film "pathfinder" did, so there's that

i am a man. i am strong.
In numbers too big to be wrong...

the ad has put Gillette into my mind, but specifically the image of a terrorized boy chased through the Gillette logo by bullies, so I'm not sure if that really has any positive impact on my likelihood to buy Gillette products (caveat being I no longer shave so it's all hypothetical)

Anyway, guess this is the era of advertising we live in now. Looking forward to buying the first peanut butter to acknowledges the armenian genocide.

lol

Denny’s has been making black history month ads for years now

"sure, you can go to waffle house... if you're RACIST"

could totally picture the decline of local diners combined with the ubiquity of Denny's in some areas (Waffle House unfortunately being more regional) resulting in some students asking what these "diners" were that were segregated and had sit-ins resulting in a teacher explaining, "well, they were kind of like a Denny's restaurant"

Denny's would like to strongly assure you they are not the diners of old

man that Nathan For You episode where he makes a "Holocaust remembrance" windbreaker was really ahead of its time wasn't it

Feels like the MAGA teens from the March for Life merit discussion in here

in addition to the other two threads we're discussing them in??

lol r u kidding

plz no more fronts the troops are getting thin

i mean sure

place has come alive its good

frogbs reminded me to watch more Nathan for You last night and I saw the "claw of shame" episode finally

thanks frogbs!

I feel like the cycle of take exhaustion gets shorter and shorter with each one of these events. I can't even formulate a thought on the MAGA teens at this point because they've all been mined already.

There’s actually no real reason to have a thought about any of it but as has been said we’re covering this in at least two threads apart from this one

every time I see "MAGA teens" it makes me think of We Are The Ovaltineys

This sense that we all have some kind of responsibility to act as national jury on a random verbal skirmish at a protest is sort of maddening and anxiety-producing. I'm sure the kids were being racist shitheads because they were wearing MAGA hats so case closed but social media creates this false sense of urgency to weigh evidence, form a nuanced opinion, say something original, etc.

i guess what i really mean is the variety of things on display in the videos made available -- the abrasiveness of the israelites, the aw shucks clueless entitlement of the boys, the model of spirited & stoic de-escalation from phillips (the native man); different modes of maleness on display & used in different ways. but i take the point it's been covered elsewhere.

Man alive otm. We weren't there on the grassy knoll, we don't all need to do frame-by-frame Zapruder shit every. God. Damn. Time.

P much everybody here on record as opposing racist shitheads (I think); do we all need to formulate a specific opinion on every incident?

democracy dies in darkness, etc.

Okay, but meanwhile

https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2019/01/22/man-cited-his-virginity-reason-he-planned-kill-many-girls-he-could-police-say/?utm_term=.1142a8527668

No report on this guy's hat color

jfc

Maybe i do need to get off the internet

jeeeesus

well now he's definitely gonna get laid amirite

Maybe individualism is the problem. The fact that this guy thinks his loneliness is more valid than other people’s lives suggests a flaw in the calculus