Rolling Maleness and Masculinity Discussion Thread

YMP, so basically it's exploiting feminist issues for the sake of subconscious manipulation in the service of profit? Can't imagine why that might rub someone the wrong way.

If you want to die, look at the YouTube comments.

Saturday Night Live last night had a weird parody of the Gillete commercial subbing in the Kool-Aid Man...Oh yeah.

Advertising is dirty and garbage as a whole, yeah, but there are a billion worse ways to do it than through a positive PSA.

I’m not buying that most people super chuffed about this hate it because it’s ~co-opting a righteous movement, man~.

I don't care that much about why some chud in the comments section is chuffed and didn't mean to claim that this is the reason. I guess I'm working out what I think; I'm less convinced of the message, or the form of it, than you are. If YMP is right, the point would be to troll more than to promote a positive message (although yeah, abuse and harassment are bad and if this gets people to stop doing those things, it's a good thing).

wait what does 'chuffed' mean in american

idk. i hate that word and also "chud."

cos here it means someone is pleased with something

Idk, I was just reusing circa's terms there. I never use either word tbh.

I guess "chud" was omar's, actually.

Apparently, 'chuffed' can mean both 'pleased' and its opposite, depending on the context.

And it doesn't seem to be a UK/NA thing, although I'd wager Brits use it way more often than North Americans.

love to chuff my chuds amirite guys

wait does chad = chud

'Chud' is a derogatory term for alt-righter. Most wish they were chads.

"Chud" = derived from C.H.U.D., an acronym for Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller from the shitty 80s horror movie of the same name. In contemporary internet discourse, synonymous with "Neanderthal", "knuckle-walker", etc. - basically, a primitive/unevolved/subhuman creature.

Interestingly, it's never racialized - it always just means someone with shitty aggro right-wing beliefs.

you don’t have to be a right-winger to be a chud, but many are

I've only ever seen the term used on the left. But this is a recent development according to the prestigious Urban Dictionary.

My earlier statement "all teenagers are chuds" was basically about the adolescent temperament - the stormy emotional landscape, generally poor impulse control, etc. - which crosses all political boundaries.

its actually a native american ritual iirc

as far as i can tell "chud" exists solely to noun "maga"

well anyway

search function shows me “chud” was used in its common form, not referencing the movie itself, in 2004

like we’re not alone here, it was a term used among a bunch of internet and irl communities prior to trumpism. please don’t let trump ruin “chud”

Now that I think about it, The Simpsons is probably responsible for its return/rise - there was a throwaway gag about the sewers being full of CHUDs in the Simpsons-go-to-NYC episode (the one that never gets re-aired because it's got the World Trade Center in it).

xp he is not ruining it he is revealing its essence

chud/chad/choad
none of them are good

I use choad a lot these last several years. It really perfectly embraces a lot of men in the US.

by "none of them are good" i meant the people referred to as chud/chad/choad are not good; the words themselves are fine!!

the word CHOAD itself brings me great satisfaction to use tbh

Proto-Estonians are having their good name dragged through the mud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chud

It's such a weird cognitive dissonance to see a choad make a derogatory comment about how a women looks. I will go off. Like, are there no mirrors in your basement? How dare you.

what if the choad comments on how tedious the woman's opinions are

same.

consistent!

i dunno i just think it's super sw8 how every thread on ile sinks into the 'trump brexit chud men are stupid'x1000000 posts format after a while, great convos

And yet here you are.

offering a male point of view that is worthwhile. i am a man. i am strong.

such will.

I'm curious as to how choad made it from (as Wiktionary claims) Hindi into 90s American stoner slang, the first place I encountered it... there is what I would consider to be a suspicious 100-year gap in the list of attestations.

OED:

Origin: Of unknown origin.
Etymology: Origin unknown.

Perhaps compare Hindi codnā (of a man) to have sexual intercourse, cod-ghar brothel, codū (adjective) lascivious, (noun) lascivious man

Earliest citation is Zap Comics no 3, 1968

I don't buy the Hindi connection, really. Was thinking maybe some riff on Spanish's joder but that doesn't make sense either. My money's on an English neologism.

Proto-Estonians are having their good name dragged through the mud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chud

― jmm

but not as badly as the 1987 sami film "pathfinder" did, so there's that

i am a man. i am strong.
In numbers too big to be wrong...

the ad has put Gillette into my mind, but specifically the image of a terrorized boy chased through the Gillette logo by bullies, so I'm not sure if that really has any positive impact on my likelihood to buy Gillette products (caveat being I no longer shave so it's all hypothetical)

Anyway, guess this is the era of advertising we live in now. Looking forward to buying the first peanut butter to acknowledges the armenian genocide.

lol

Denny’s has been making black history month ads for years now

"sure, you can go to waffle house... if you're RACIST"

could totally picture the decline of local diners combined with the ubiquity of Denny's in some areas (Waffle House unfortunately being more regional) resulting in some students asking what these "diners" were that were segregated and had sit-ins resulting in a teacher explaining, "well, they were kind of like a Denny's restaurant"

Denny's would like to strongly assure you they are not the diners of old

man that Nathan For You episode where he makes a "Holocaust remembrance" windbreaker was really ahead of its time wasn't it