"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

I was in London that night and remember seeing the early edition of the Scum reporting on a catastrophic Kinnock victory.

had to be restrained from hitting somebody who gloated about voting Tory the next morning iirc

My shared house full of council estate acid house geezers (in Camden) went all over the place shouting GLENDA IS OUR LEADER football-chant style the next day, which mitigated things slightly.

The chants of "five more years" still ring in my head.

it's occurred to me that remainers today are in the slightly strange position of opposing the EU's official policy on Brexit i.e. that the WA on the table is the only way forward

Remainers and soft Brexit advocates have different ‘red lines’ to Theresa May’s. The EU has indicated that their agreement could change on that basis.

right hence the "slightly" - it is just a bit of a funny wrinkle

like I'm kind of surprised we haven't heard a chorus of "if you love the EU so much why don't you vote for the deal they're offering?"

Right, but that's not the EU's official position at all, is the thing.

if it's not then i think Ireland should be told!

Lol @ this whole thread:

Raab tells Sophy “we can’t let the EU bully us or call the shots” and so if no changes to deal should leave with no deal on WTO terms; EU will demand a negotiation “reasonably swiftly” and as a third country we would have more negotiation leveragepic.twitter.com/zlSg3lcEj0 #Ridge

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) January 20, 2019

Special mention to the idea that Leo is “less moderate” compared to Simon Coveney - Leo is awful but he’s just a basic Thatcherite and the notion that Raab thinks someone is too extreme...well.

more local gov fun

Plan to redirect inner-city funds to Tory shires 'a stitch-up’

if this is serious it’s grotesque. the increased reliance on business rates and council tax already punishes lower income areas, who clearly can’t raise as much and where people have more need for public services and infrastructure.

Where do all these profound delusions come from anyway? Is this what empires look like when 'decline' slides into 'dementia'?

I wonder what it is about Leo Varadkar that is so uniquely “threatening” and “extreme” 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

xxp
this is the type of corruption* (like when the v wealthy Surrey C C got a sweetheart deal to stop them having to raise council taxes) that our state funded broadcaster should be all over.

* I mean this kind of thing gets reported as corruption on BBC WS when it occurs in African nations.

i know. very much has the same reek as that surrey cc thing.

this is the key bit:

But critics believe ministers have bowed to pressure from the Tory-dominated County Councils Network to shake up the grants system. The CCN has argued its members are unfairly allocated less money per head of population than inner-city areas, and face higher costs of maintaining services in sparsely populated rural areas.

This isn't going to end well.

Exclusive: Theresa May mulls amending Good Friday Agreement to get her Brexit deal past MPshttps://t.co/XGNdAqbg4a

— The Telegraph (@Telegraph) January 20, 2019

Can't not end well if it just never ends /smartguy

Weird, I could have sworn that was a bilateral agreement.

Presumably that would need the agreement of the Irish government and the various groupings in Northern Ireland? Good luck with that

Just 🤔really🤔weird🤔how this idea materialised as a result of a shaky confidence and supply agreement with the only party in NI to oppose the GFA.

let's do it and be legends

see yis lads

im off to join the ra

Good lad

if we're going by subs then it's time we started talking abt one of the most important influencers in the media landscape: hbomberguy

the twitch feed of his marathon donkey kong 64 session to raise money for mermaids seems to have become a rallying point for the whole online left. AOC popped on to discuss govt shutdown earlier

they had chelsea manning & george romero earlier, paris lees & owen jones now. $246k playing donkey kong. this is rad

george....romero? is there a famous one of those that's still alive?

ha, john romero, the doom guy/fps king

oh lol

John Carpenter plays video games, they could've gotten him.

I just caught a bit of it last night but the atmosphere was lovely: mixture of famous ppl on the left, gaming ppl and regular ppl (who were generally the most interesting and informed). it was educational and ridiculous and it meant a lot to a lot of ppl. glinners mentions are now full of donkey kong, it's glorious

The apparent fact that May's Plan B is 'one more heave' to get the EU to change their minds on the backstop is pretty deranging, like there's a Roomba in charge of the country.

"foreign contaminant"

like there's a Roomba in charge of the country.

Except a Roomba cleans up the mess

centre-right party USP is supposed to be practical, safe, "strong and stable" management - and afaict those parties in both the UK and the US are in the process of comprehensively trashing that rep for at least a generation

A Roomba tracking through dog shit.

afaict those parties in both the UK and the US are in the process of comprehensively trashing that rep for at least a generation

and yet, people will vote for them anyway, and people who spent years going "can't vote for Labour bcz The Economy, got to vote for the party of business" appear quite happy for companies to move abroad and Boris to say "fuck business" as long as there are flags to wave

ho hum

lol some good stuff on Twitter about how a non-zero proportion of the population think "no deal" means "no Brexit"

I mean

it's time to take a stand pic.twitter.com/z5nvlNwEXt

— Stan The Golden Boy (@tristandross) October 5, 2016

what election are people most looking forward to, march or october?

Donald Tusk, the European council president, has claimed that David Cameron told him he thought he would never have to hold the referendum he promised because the Lib Dems would block it. In an interview for a BBC documentary, ‘Inside Europe: Ten Years of Turmoil’, the first episode of which goes out a week today, Tusk said:

"I asked David Cameron, ‘Why did you decide on this referendum, this – it’s so dangerous, so even stupid, you know,’ and, he told me - and I was really amazed and even shocked - that the only reason was his own party, [He told me] he felt really safe, because he thought at the same time that there’s no risk of a referendum, because, his coalition partner, the Liberals, would block this idea of a referendum. But then, surprisingly, he won and there was no coalition partner. So paradoxically David Cameron became the real victim of his own victory."

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Tusk was right about Cameron then and he’s right now.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jun/23/polish-mps-ridicule-cameron-stupid-propaganda-eurosceptics

To be fair to the cunt no one thought the Tories were in with a chance of winning a majority when the idea was first proposed.

I was in a five-hour meeting today and didn’t keep up with Brexit and am now hopelessly adrift. Did anything happen? Plan B is Plan A: Brexit Boogaloo, right?

may hasnlooked into her heart to discern the will of the people and it's hard brexit with a side portion of fuck ireland an all

TM now claiming that all the political parties in NI are represented in opinion (dodging a pointed question about the GFA and how dealing with the only party that opposed it might affect that).

This is a really poor performance, just saying stuff like the Tories support workers rights.

A lot of feigned outrage here (and referring to the GFA as the Belfast agreement).

Fair play to the SNP, some good questions here.

I was p much where you were today Stet, and what I gathered from today was that, indeed, May has no fucking clue, no plan B, nothing.

"The Prime Minister says she wants to listen to" the most common sentence in the papers liveblogs today. It is just so weak, so completely void of ideas, or better yet, a true stance. She's hopelessly adrift.

(tinkering w/ the GFA seems already an abandoned srategy, less than 24h after it being called into question)

Gotta say I kinda love* that Prince Philip is driving around like a lunatic going fuck knows where while the country is on its knees.

*I will starting minding if he severely injures or kills someone.

what if that someone is