"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

Its just politics jim, which Corbyn seems to be better at than most ppl give him credit for. But you know if you want to talk up the radical certainties of the SNP not sending in Scotland's finest to muck about in Syria then be my guest.

A moment of true Britishness amid the Brexit crisis: the PM's message to the nation will not now be carried live on the BBC 10 O'Clock News, because Southampton v Derby FA Cup replay has gone to extra time.

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) January 16, 2019

The letter doesn't actually mention future VONCs at all.

10.03 bcz they need to hurry the correct podium crest out and stick it on to make it election-announcement-compliant

(i have no idea if this is even a thing)

Blank lectern = party political (election usually), lion & unicorn = speaking as PM (most other things)

Blank lectern also ‘personal statement’.

Can I get odds on this being another portentous statement which changes absolutely nothing?

rare footage of the lion the unicorn AND the cake (of A50 extension)

http://www.victorianweb.org/art/illustration/tenniel/lookingglass/7.4.jpg

the lion is wearing corbyn's glasses that he took off or whatever don't @ me im matt

"sorry we'll have to interrupt this inconsequential blathering for the penalty shootout..."

Specialty jam tomorrow

Fuck's sake does she know there's cameras in the House?

the funny thing is you're not allowed call this tuesday a tuesday on ilx lol

the cheek of that

Theresa May says she has had 'constructive' meeting with leader of Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid Cymru

She says she is 'disappointed' the leader of the Labour Party has decided not to take part, but adds 'our door is open'

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 16, 2019

i think you can just presume they havent said they wont meet before no deal is discounted

Huw Edwards: "that's after the football" lol

Yet they did so knowing Corbyn had told her he wouldn’t meet unless no deal was ruled out?

maybe they see no reason to wear responsibility for that delay if he is going to anyway

Did I miss the letterbox vote?

― koogs, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:17 (two hours ago) Bookmark

Another very important issue that was drowned out by the jet-stream scream of brexit today was Blackford's impassioned plea about the plight of Scottish crofters. And one interesting thing i learned from the last thread is that he's just a humble crofter himself.

EXCLUSIVE

Telegraph obtains leaked recording of briefing Philip Hammond gave business leaders in aftermath of PM's defeat

Read full transcript including how Hammond said 'threat' of no-deal Brexit could be 'off the table' within days & A50 'rescinded'https://t.co/VITSFhQI1m

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 16, 2019

brextended

does laura kuenssberg not know the name of the house of commons or what

If I was Corbyn I would have gone, I think.

a friend tells me that that pronouncement from the German business guy upthread is actually a fairly common German saying: “besser ein Ende mit Schrecken als ein Schrecken ohne Ende”

matt hancock has retweeted a gif with a brazzers logo on it

thinking of ppl like Hammond makes me think of D Edgerton's description of the 30's Tory government as being full of extremely wealthy businessmen including pm Nev the appeasement meister, and how their brand became damaged goods. Most of these ppl even made Churchill look like an old money pauper. But he asserts in the tory side of the wartime coalition the % of mp's reflected a much more national character than big business, despite evil press barons like Beaverbrook still representing as well. Just fucking think this lot, both the remain and leave tories in both parties are too much of the same shit and it would be such a good thing for them to become irreparably damaged goods - even if just for a decade.

what's brazzers?

porn site

lmao!

if anyone discerns any sexual arousal from Theresa May laughing gif I'd say you've had a more fucked up upbringing than the average catholic.

So Hammond says Ho for Soft Brexit, yet May (according to a "source" who seems v impartial) apparently is boxing herself in tightly

Latest from senior Whitehall source:

- May will not extend Article 50, over-riding advisers urging her to do so.
- EU deemed unlikely to offer more concessions.
- May won't budge on her red lines.
- May will not back 2nd referendum on any grounds.

— Ian Birrell (@ianbirrell) January 16, 2019

no deal time

When Ms. May watched Thelma and Louise maybe she didn't realize that the freeze-frame of the car in mid-air does not portray the actual ending of the movie.

shes clearly going quite insane.

its good

top post, Aimless.

I take it that the Vote of no confidence is the UK equivalent of the US 25th amendment. & if an individual has passed it twice their flagrant insanity is not very likely to be stopped.

extremely good that all of the commentators who have been pleading with politicians to do something to negate no deal are now berating JC for obstinacy.

anyway, now in the endgame - three options appear clearer than ever: labour split ; tory split ; no deal. could go either way but tories are so resilient so... :/

there was a good brexit flowchart yesterday from twitter - i think it was posted on here but i cant find it

found it!

Und ja, voll spannend. Ich muss all das morgen Nachmittag in eine 10-Minutigen Vortrag für @SebHerlt in Berlin zusammenfassen. Auf deutsch! 🤯#Brexit pic.twitter.com/oS6t5DuGsa

— Jon Worth (@jonworth) January 16, 2019

http://www.thinkmaze.com/wp-content/uploads/Banana_Monkey_maze_color.jpg

xp Late but just to be sure, Suzy yr newspaper tweet was a fake

Lab say before the meeting must rule out no deal before starting.
SNP say must rule out no deal, extend A50 and agree to PV before meeting again.
LD will keep talking as long as May is "considering the option of" (Vince Cable this morning) no no deal and PV.

This is going to go nowhere.

The question facing May will still be arithmetic. If she adopted Lab policy wholesale (CU, permanently enshrined workers/env rights) 1) how many Con votes would she lose (which is bound to be more than she lost on her deal) and 2) how many Lab votes still wouldn't cross the floor because it's a Tory motion (Angela Rayner on the record in this position).

three options appear clearer than ever: labour split ; tory split ; no deal.

Beginning to think this is the case. I don't think it's resilience that makes Tory split less likely, more that the country is naturally Conservative so they are always more likely to coalesce around a unifying idea.

Fine.

So yesterday, before the VONC, May invited every party leader apart from Corbyn to meet her (which all Lab MPs, even the ones who don’t like him that much, called out as bullshit) and then afterward he’s the bad guy for insisting that she commit to not crashing out with no deal? Is that how this works now?

I don't 'get' Corbyn's "get no deal off the table first" stance and it indeed feels like he's ducking. You can't get 'no deal' off the table, because it's not on the table. 'No deal' isn't a deal of it's own: it's just a reality of what will happen when there is no deal on March 29. So if you want 'no deal off the table', try and make sure you have a deal by that date! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is going to go nowhere.

This, basically. EU won't budge: the price of setting a precedent is way too high.

She can say “if we have nothing by March 28th we’ll ask to extend and if we can extend we will revoke” to take it off the table.

But that would require legislation and would certainly create a much larger run-out-the-clock incentive so you can see why she doesn’t want to.

"No Deal" could hypothetically be removed from the table by a number of means including an agreement to rescind or seek to extend A50 if a deal can't be got thru parliament in time.

The SNP clearly aren't interested in anything other than leveraging independence but that's what they're for I guess so whatevs.

I don't 'get' Corbyn's "get no deal off the table first" stance and it indeed feels like he's ducking. You can't get 'no deal' off the table, because it's not on the table. 'No deal' isn't a deal of it's own: it's just a reality of what will happen when there is no deal on March 29. So if you want 'no deal off the table', try and make sure you have a deal by that date! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sorry basically repeated what stet said.

I suspect that ideas of EU willingness to give the UK time to change its mind are looking increasingly optimistic.

and lol repeating what stet and nv said.