"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

Does Fraser Nelson sound Scottish to you? I’ve never heard anyone talk like he does but he still sounds Scottish.

Yeah, I've worked with people in Glasgow that spoke like that.

Excellent subtitle error as Michael Gove winds down no confidence debate. #batman #jeremycorbyn #NoConfidenceMotion 🦇 pic.twitter.com/WCj25DV583

— Nina Massey (@ninamasseyPA) January 16, 2019

Any Dutch speakers around?

Bloody hell, the Dutch don’t hold back. pic.twitter.com/uznUSZDhch

— Rich Rippon (@RichRippon) January 16, 2019

I'm assuming the LibDems/Nats announcement is intended to make it impossible for Labour to force an election, in effect bouncing them towards backing a second referendum.

In fairness there's also how many goes do Labour get before they have failed to force the election.

In general I'm okay with some flexibility for Corbyn, but tbh I'm fine with this line of attack entirely due to the arseholes on social media who've been going "You guys come onnn, the party convention laid out a series of steps to take and he's just going through them in the right order" for the last month.

wait has the story kempsall tweeted turned into an actual official announcement? all he said was "understand there are conversations underway right now between SNP, Plaid and LibDems etc" -- which on its own is thin stuff imo

no - kirsty blackman has confirmed

This is absolutely not @theSNP position. Whether or not the PM wins the vote tonight we will continue to have no confidence in this conservative UK Govt and will vote to make that clear whenever we have the opportunity. This is why we tabled our no confidence motion in December! https://t.co/Y8e04vZ2CO

— Kirsty Blackman (@KirstySNP) January 16, 2019

extremely good tweet

At exactly this stage in Ed Miliband's leadership compared to Corbyn LAB had a YouGov lead of 9%

— Mike Smithson (@MSmithsonPB) January 16, 2019

ross kempsall, political editor @talkRADIO, columnist @BritishGQ
mark s, distracted very-online shitposter with a memorystick full of blobby gifs

ffs "i could do better" is a very low bar

May is making a statement at 10pm. Probably another damp squib.

My predictions:
- a big chunky necklace
- “come together as a country”
- “the people voted for Brecksit”
- “delivering a deal that works”
- unexpected Larry cameo (but I’d prefer Palmerston)

[grabbing ||||||||'s clipboard, banging on it] snap snap SNAP SNAP... !

May pulls off her mask to reveal Gove underneath.

unexpected Larry cameo

https://permanentplastichelmet.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/blackmon.jpg

So the Ross Kempsell story was arguably true given a loose interpretation - what the letter says is 'you had your shot at forcing an election and failed despite all our assistance. You now need to follow your own conference motion and move on to the next stage which is 2nd ref.'

It doesn't say they won't back other ones but makes clear they think (jointly) that the time for VONC is over.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2019/01/who-ll-blink-first-stand-between-jeremy-corbyn-and-theresa-may

So what happens next? The pattern throughout the rest of Europe is clear: when the electorate throws up deadlocked legislatures, the centre-left opts to take political damage in order to avoid systemic political damage. That’s part of why so much of the social democratic left is in such a bad position electorally.

But Corbyn isn’t of the social democratic centre-left and his political incentives are different. Anyone relying on him to blink to avert the deadlock is likely to be disappointed.

nah mate Corbyn just name drops Allende and Sankara he'll roll over in no time.

Massive Maine Road style floodlights... but also PM crest on the podium. Not an election. pic.twitter.com/j0Nr3VBIAg

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) January 16, 2019

it's an election

emergency may statement at 10.03pm?

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2019/01/who-ll-blink-first-stand-between-jeremy-corbyn-and-theresa-may

So what happens next? The pattern throughout the rest of Europe is clear: when the electorate throws up deadlocked legislatures, the centre-left opts to take political damage in order to avoid systemic political damage. That’s part of why so much of the social democratic left is in such a bad position electorally.
But Corbyn isn’t of the social democratic centre-left and his political incentives are different. Anyone relying on him to blink to avert the deadlock is likely to be disappointed.

nah mate Corbyn just name drops Allende and Sankara he'll roll over in no time.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:31 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ah yes the radical leftist politics of... not taking a definitive position on brexit to avoid the political ramifications of being too remain or too leave

oh youve covered it

but my info says 10.03

interesting to see whose sources are good here

corbyn may not blink first; but there are plenty of people on his back benches from the social democratic centre left who might screw the pooch

"they will not back further VONCs"
"we will absolutely back further VONCs"

the rest of the letter is a nothing, just an advisory on preferred tactics going forward

VONC me ‘til I fart

10.03 bcz they need to hurry the correct podium crest out and stick it on to make it election-announcement-compliant

(i have no idea if this is even a thing)

Its just politics jim, which Corbyn seems to be better at than most ppl give him credit for. But you know if you want to talk up the radical certainties of the SNP not sending in Scotland's finest to muck about in Syria then be my guest.

A moment of true Britishness amid the Brexit crisis: the PM's message to the nation will not now be carried live on the BBC 10 O'Clock News, because Southampton v Derby FA Cup replay has gone to extra time.

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) January 16, 2019

The letter doesn't actually mention future VONCs at all.

10.03 bcz they need to hurry the correct podium crest out and stick it on to make it election-announcement-compliant

(i have no idea if this is even a thing)

Blank lectern = party political (election usually), lion & unicorn = speaking as PM (most other things)

Blank lectern also ‘personal statement’.

Can I get odds on this being another portentous statement which changes absolutely nothing?

rare footage of the lion the unicorn AND the cake (of A50 extension)

http://www.victorianweb.org/art/illustration/tenniel/lookingglass/7.4.jpg

the lion is wearing corbyn's glasses that he took off or whatever don't @ me im matt

"sorry we'll have to interrupt this inconsequential blathering for the penalty shootout..."

Specialty jam tomorrow

Fuck's sake does she know there's cameras in the House?

the funny thing is you're not allowed call this tuesday a tuesday on ilx lol

the cheek of that

Theresa May says she has had 'constructive' meeting with leader of Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid Cymru

She says she is 'disappointed' the leader of the Labour Party has decided not to take part, but adds 'our door is open'

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 16, 2019

i think you can just presume they havent said they wont meet before no deal is discounted

Huw Edwards: "that's after the football" lol

Yet they did so knowing Corbyn had told her he wouldn’t meet unless no deal was ruled out?

maybe they see no reason to wear responsibility for that delay if he is going to anyway

Did I miss the letterbox vote?

― koogs, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:17 (two hours ago) Bookmark

Another very important issue that was drowned out by the jet-stream scream of brexit today was Blackford's impassioned plea about the plight of Scottish crofters. And one interesting thing i learned from the last thread is that he's just a humble crofter himself.

EXCLUSIVE

Telegraph obtains leaked recording of briefing Philip Hammond gave business leaders in aftermath of PM's defeat

Read full transcript including how Hammond said 'threat' of no-deal Brexit could be 'off the table' within days & A50 'rescinded'https://t.co/VITSFhQI1m

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 16, 2019

brextended

does laura kuenssberg not know the name of the house of commons or what

If I was Corbyn I would have gone, I think.

a friend tells me that that pronouncement from the German business guy upthread is actually a fairly common German saying: “besser ein Ende mit Schrecken als ein Schrecken ohne Ende”

matt hancock has retweeted a gif with a brazzers logo on it

thinking of ppl like Hammond makes me think of D Edgerton's description of the 30's Tory government as being full of extremely wealthy businessmen including pm Nev the appeasement meister, and how their brand became damaged goods. Most of these ppl even made Churchill look like an old money pauper. But he asserts in the tory side of the wartime coalition the % of mp's reflected a much more national character than big business, despite evil press barons like Beaverbrook still representing as well. Just fucking think this lot, both the remain and leave tories in both parties are too much of the same shit and it would be such a good thing for them to become irreparably damaged goods - even if just for a decade.

what's brazzers?