"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

Gove killing it with a bang up to date Vicki Pollard reference

Vicky Bollard? Got his slimy finger on the pulse of the nation, doesn't he?

x-post, ha!

Like when he was asked to rap and did the Wham rap!

Gove pushing the Skripal button again, they've done their homework

Crunch time

what’s the skripal angle? i’m ion a train. that he was dovish on the russians?

I'm guessing yes

Yep, basically he can't be trusted because he loves Russia

None of these cowards are gonna vote against May I fear

Coming at 1900 on BBC2 #politicslive with @Jo_Coburn and the results of the vote of no confidence in the Government. Plus, guests: pic.twitter.com/oQSDAzut9G

— Rob Burley (@RobBurl) January 16, 2019

Is that a record three people with associations involving repatriation of black and brown Britons on the panel I see?

Also John Woodcock has already said he won't vote with Labour, which I'm sure has endeared him to his constituents no end.

Can he beat the Danczuk vote at the next election?0

Bring on the Corbz smears, it really worked to their advantage at the last election didn't it?

That Richard Tice looks like a cunt straight out of 80s South Africa

Lost by 19

squeaked it

Did I miss the letterbox vote?

That seems a lot tbh. I guess all the DUP plus a couple of random feckless cunts like Woodcock?

That was squeaky! Now she’s invited all party leaders to meet with her, including JC.

Nothing unites the ruling class like the threat of socialism.

Votes not through on the app yet but I bet you’re right.

god damn it. was hoping against hope

Vote percentages: 52 noes, 48 ayes SMDH

SNP might want to reduce military spending, however, the cost of policies in the 2014 paper would have increased spending above the pro-rata of the UK defence budget and they are committed to both NATO and PESCO (if in EU) so more than 2% by default.

The 2014 White Paper advocated a points based immigration system pretty much identical to every other one on the table. Theirs would have been skewed "to benefit the economy and not flat values" which is exactly the same language as current Labour.

You've probably missed the tuition fees scandals not being in the country - they capped the amount which could be given to universities to pay for Scottish student tuition, which has led to caps on numbers of Scottish students being placed by the universities, which has led to some prospective students being turned away even (in one very newsworthy event) straight-A students.

― Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:48 AM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok fair enough.

my point is not really in praise of the SNP, it's more that labour gets more credit than is merited on the evidence of their actual policies for being left-wing because corbyn namedrops allende and sankara

John Woodcock didn’t vote with the government - no Labour MPs did. DUP + lady hermon + Tories

Ah right, didn't realise their majority was that strong

ffs Woodcock's still blathering on about Trident like as if Corbyn's ability to commit to nuclear holocaust is what everyone is worried about rn.

10 votes, £100,000,000 each

because corbyn namedrops allende and sankara

Yeah sure that's all he does.

Vote percentages: 52 noes, 48 ayes SMDH

― suzy, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:23 (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oddly accurate: 51.505546751% against the motion of not confidence. Which when you round....

individuating unionist MPs and splinters is last-days-of-callaghan territory fwiw -- i don't think i even heard of lady hermon before today! (or knew that the ghost of the OUs yet survives)

If it hadn't been for DUP support, the government would have lost by 1.

Unless they abstained, can't see them supporting Corbyn even if they weren't being paid not to

because corbyn namedrops allende and sankara

Yeah sure that's all he does.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:36 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i vote for labour last time around but the stanning - especially from wee irony stalinist on social media - is lamentable

i don't think it's controversial that what lab had on offer in 2017 was p milquetoast in many ways even compared to EdM's. mcdonnell in particular has since announced more radical red meat, in respect of a socialist plan and rebalanced industrial relations but (a) it's all muffled by the jet-stream scream of brexit and (b) it's not yet down on paper in an election manifesto

tbh I wouldn’t expect them to side with any opposition to force an election - why would they? This is the most influence they’ve ever had.

So you are making claims about the SNP to make some weird point? All because of 10 Stalinists on social media that back Corbyn.

This is good and normal behaviour. xxp

"it's all muffled by the jet-stream scream of brexit"

nice phrasing there + something that is driving me insane.

As for confidence vote this is actually pretty encouraging.

saw the video

he just took his glasses off ffs

So you are making claims about the SNP to make some weird point? All because of 10 Stalinists on social media that back Corbyn.

This is good and normal behaviour. xxp

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:44 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, because people should not suspend their critical faculties based on cult of personality, and it's really inappropriate to talk about PC and SNP going against labour's plans in parliament as "punching left" when both of those parties run to the left of labour in their devolved institutions and corbynism hasn't yet offered a left-wing manifesto

I don't understand how a general election happens, whats to stop them going on till 2022? Presumably with a leadership challenge in December

lol yes Corbyn has such charisma. xp

(incidentally the reason i voted for labour under corbyn was because i thought that the left-wing signaling was sufficient to merit some support on the basis that the uk is terribly tory, was obviously going to vote tory in that election, and a larger popular vote for labour under corbyn would help bolster the legitimacy of labour alternatives to blairism)

Oh for crying out loud, I'm sure if you can be arsed it isn't difficult to find SNP policies to the left and right of Labour.

Question of what happens next is far more interesting.

At least you’re not in my house where we’re having an argument about whether Michael Gove sounds Scottish.

anyway the story the inappropriate punch-left talk was based on is thin to the point of not actually really being there at all -- this wasn't an official announcement by anyone, it was a reporter passing on a rumour, which might be idiocy on their part or their sources, or malicious porkies or who knows

example: laura k yesterday extremely confidently passed on the info -- from someone "very in the know" -- that there were so many abstentions on the meaningful vote that the tories might win it: in the end literally no one abstained

this is a fervid time and all kinds of ppl have all kind of agendas, a lot of them very dumb

xp. he does. a lot less scottish than an aberdonian who went to state school has any right to but there's a wee inflection in there

Yeah, he’s an Aberdonian who went to Oxford and probably had some elocution lessons on the side.

Smart move, given: 1) ruling it out would drive May’s MPs mad 2) not ruling it out makes her look reckless 3) the very fact she won’t rule it out diacourages eurosceptic Tory rebels from backing her deal 4) It gives Labour a popular all-purpose attack line https://t.co/o5GbUvEYM0

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) January 16, 2019

he's an alien who skipped clapping lessons, what's wrong with you all xp