"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

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In January 2016, a Labour-proposed amendment that would have required private landlords to make their homes "fit for human habitation" was rejected by 312 votes to 219. According to Parliament's register of interests, Drax was one of 72 MPs who voted against the amendment who derived an income from a property. Communities minister Marcus Jones said the Government believed homes should be fit for human habitation but did not want to pass the new law that would explicitly require it.[14]

xp that's a fair sum - he'd have been easily able to afford an extra name from it.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 16:53 (seven years ago)

always here for a fleeting mention of tiggy legge-bourke tbf

lord dunsany the horror writer was good not bad

mark s, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 16:55 (seven years ago)

Oh, they got this all screwed up! pic.twitter.com/4IdxAzWlLi

— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) January 16, 2019

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 16:56 (seven years ago)

the government is going to survive this no confidence vote isn't it?

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:35 (seven years ago)

Of course.

Never Turn Your Back On Virginia Woolf (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:37 (seven years ago)

It took three goes to get rid of Callaghan when Thatcher challenged it.

suzy, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:41 (seven years ago)

In January 2016, a Labour-proposed amendment that would have required private landlords to make their homes "fit for human habitation"

Wait what

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:46 (seven years ago)

How was that not already the law

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:47 (seven years ago)

You think *that's* the most awful thing about this govern— etc etc

stet, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:48 (seven years ago)

According to some tories this is an annoyingly centre-left country. Even if thete is a kernel of truth to that, it hasnt been much of a centre-left parliament in the last decade

calzino, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:51 (seven years ago)

Centre-left compared to the US maybe.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:53 (seven years ago)

Ah yes, the centre leftness of asking women to prove they’ve been raped if they want to claim child benefit and of deporting black citizens.

Who said that cal? I saw a lot of hilarious frothing about the hard left (who famously can not tolerate any dissent) earlier.

gyac, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:56 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO7zsPQVwfw

P. Flick, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:57 (seven years ago)

state of this

Understand there are conversations underway right now between SNP, Plaid and LibDems re penning joint letter stating that they will not back repeated motions of no confidence if Corbyn loses tonight - so Labour would be trying again on its own

— Ross Kempsell (@rosskempsell) January 16, 2019

||||||||, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:01 (seven years ago)

xxp
it was some anecdotal quote attributed to Hunt I think. It was years ago when I read it - the usual moaning about the UK electorate's attachment to institutions like the NHS.

calzino, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:02 (seven years ago)

Can’t wait til he’s PM and the press are turning out fawning pieces about him being a moderate in droves!

gyac, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:03 (seven years ago)

Understand there are conversations underway right now between SNP, Plaid and LibDems re penning joint letter stating that they will not back repeated motions of no confidence if Corbyn loses tonight - so Labour would be trying again on its own

Pure cuntery that abandons their voters. Hope labour squeezes them out in every single marginal.

gyac, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:06 (seven years ago)

This is what our country could be with a Labour government.
Watch and share 👇 pic.twitter.com/NcLXKDcZGc

— The Labour Party (@UKLabour) January 16, 2019

This PPB is really good - keep an eye out for the young Asian woman who is Jaskiran Chohan, a 24-year-old Labour councillor in Southall and ex-McDonnell staffer. Also my friend’s niece. She’s awesome.

suzy, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:08 (seven years ago)

xp. also a rumour

though I'm not sure what good successive unsuccessful VONCs does

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:09 (seven years ago)

I don’t think the leadership are minded to keep running it unless they believe they can get the votes, but fucking still. Keep punching left, guys!

gyac, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:10 (seven years ago)

SNP is to the left of labour on major policy issues

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:12 (seven years ago)

is that laura pidcock at the end?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:19 (seven years ago)

SNP fuck with socialism Jim?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:23 (seven years ago)

SNP are unprincipled, opportunistic cunts, they've found their perfect match in the Lib Dems. LOL Plaid Cymru.

Never Turn Your Back On Virginia Woolf (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:23 (seven years ago)

Didn’t people once call the SNP Tartan Tories? I don’t like them because some of their big donors are nasty homophobic arseholes.

suzy, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:26 (seven years ago)

Angela Rayner says on PM tonight that even if May turned up in her office agreeing to CU and all the workers/environment etc demands in the interests of the country she still wouldn't vote with the govt on a bill.

Looks like VONC till you honk is the only policy in town.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:27 (seven years ago)

SNP have also pushed ahead with several policies despite losing the parliamentary vote on them, insisting such a vote is only advisory.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:29 (seven years ago)

new socialist needs a much firmer sub editor i think -- it's got better and gann is smart and engaged but few of its writers are especially sparky and some of its stuff is still quite needlessly repetitive and graceless :(

(i've actually considered offering but i assume they have no money and it wd be all fights all the time)

― mark s, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Do it for socialism ;-)

I know what you mean re: edits - the piece analyzing the situation on Brazil pre-election was at times quite hard to follow. On the other hand I love this piece on the politics of surrogacy and care. Won't read many better essays on anything this year. Gann is very good at negotiating between left labour to various anarchists critiques and it really shows in the variety of coverage.

They don't have much cash at all (see some fundraiser links now and then) and the future does seem bleak but aren't all our futures like that.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:31 (seven years ago)

I'm the LibDems/Nats announcement is intended to make it impossible for Labour to force an election, in effect bouncing them towards backing a second referendum.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:38 (seven years ago)

I'm assuming, ahem

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:38 (seven years ago)

SNP fuck with socialism Jim?

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:23 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

SNP has a less hawkish foreign policy. they want to decrease military budget and scrap trident. labour don't want to scrap trident and their 2017 manifesto wanted to increase military budget by at seat 2% of GDP.

in criminal justice Labour puts more of a premium increasing numbers of police

SNP has a less nativist immigration policy.

in education labour wants to scrap tuition fees. SNP administration has done that in Scotland.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:39 (seven years ago)

fair play to them, they’re nothing if not consistent. will always privilege the oppprtunistic politics of sectional advantage so can’t expect them to interact with the UK parliament in good faith

||||||||, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:41 (seven years ago)

xps. as they should, if they're to represent their electorate

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:42 (seven years ago)

xp. does the uk parliament deserve good faith from scotland and wales?

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:42 (seven years ago)

ahem

topical mlady (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:44 (seven years ago)

A Scottish administration in an indepedent Scotland would not be adventuring in Yemen. Labour have ofc have highlighted foreign policy abuses so I don't take that point. Nor would an indepedent Scotland have nuclear weapons.

Fair enough on cops though lets face it they are a party of the state as much as Labour so they could increase it at some point. Both SNP and Labour are pro-EU. Unless SNP are advocating for open borders I don't know what less nativist means.

The last point is you saying they have the same policy - just that SNP could do it because they are in government.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:48 (seven years ago)

SNP might want to reduce military spending, however, the cost of policies in the 2014 paper would have increased spending above the pro-rata of the UK defence budget and they are committed to both NATO and PESCO (if in EU) so more than 2% by default.

The 2014 White Paper advocated a points based immigration system pretty much identical to every other one on the table. Theirs would have been skewed "to benefit the economy and not flat values" which is exactly the same language as current Labour.

You've probably missed the tuition fees scandals not being in the country - they capped the amount which could be given to universities to pay for Scottish student tuition, which has led to caps on numbers of Scottish students being placed by the universities, which has led to some prospective students being turned away even (in one very newsworthy event) straight-A students.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:48 (seven years ago)

I remain a fan of this genre

Dear @sinnfeinireland - Please can you take your UK parliament seats today (fingers crossed behind your back when you sign the oath is fine..) so the Tories can be destroyed tonight. You will gain many fans.

— Morgan Cox (@morgancox_uk) January 16, 2019

Imagine this for a plot twist: Corbyn walks into parliament tonight accompanied by...

...7 members of Sinn Fein. 🤯

Christ, I know it’s unlikely but just imagine the scenes. It’d be written about for centuries. #brexit #NoConfidenceVote

— Sam Cornwell 👙 (@Samcornwell) January 16, 2019

It’s doubly funny because it illustrates how much of a waste of time those Corbyn IRA smears are with the general public.

gyac, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:48 (seven years ago)

Tom looking his age, making me feel mine

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:50 (seven years ago)

Can you imagine having Gove commend you for your speech? I think I'd puke.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:52 (seven years ago)

Gove killing it with a bang up to date Vicki Pollard reference

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:54 (seven years ago)

Vicky Bollard? Got his slimy finger on the pulse of the nation, doesn't he?

x-post, ha!

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:55 (seven years ago)

Like when he was asked to rap and did the Wham rap!

gyac, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:55 (seven years ago)

Gove pushing the Skripal button again, they've done their homework

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:59 (seven years ago)

Crunch time

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:02 (seven years ago)

what’s the skripal angle? i’m ion a train. that he was dovish on the russians?

Fizzles, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:03 (seven years ago)

I'm guessing yes

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:05 (seven years ago)

Yep, basically he can't be trusted because he loves Russia

None of these cowards are gonna vote against May I fear

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:05 (seven years ago)

Coming at 1900 on BBC2 #politicslive with @Jo_Coburn and the results of the vote of no confidence in the Government. Plus, guests: pic.twitter.com/oQSDAzut9G

— Rob Burley (@RobBurl) January 16, 2019

Is that a record three people with associations involving repatriation of black and brown Britons on the panel I see?

gyac, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:09 (seven years ago)

Also John Woodcock has already said he won't vote with Labour, which I'm sure has endeared him to his constituents no end.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:10 (seven years ago)


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