"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

just keep broadcasting I Daniel Blake until the GBP decides that Ken Loach must be appeased

Corbyn: this Frankenstein bill is now officially dead!

Me(small voice): Frankenstein’s monster...

Oh how quickly you forget Novara and Squawkbox. xpost

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eh, I know Novara/canary etc are really depressingly bad, I try to comfort myself with the fact that its early days? I think activist media can have great potential, and I look at things like DemocracyNow and the Intercept, which for all their imperfections do something important.

austerity is nothing to see. it's the nemesis of posties - low letterboxes - that is a burning injustice. Can't wait for Loach's movie about a saintly, heart of gold postie who gets a bad back from too many low letterboxes

Democracy Now feels like a very specific product of American earnestness and industriousness, Novara always seems like a punchy startup hoping to be bought out by venture capitalists.

well sarcasm aside it's not so much the crapness of individual left-ish content providers that matters, it's the steady drain of influence from the right wing print press that's heartening

I think they are doing this already to some degree - that video about austerity was incredible and made the case against better in a few minutes than any number of speeches.

― gyac,

Yes! thats a great example

SNP straight in there on the VONC by attacking Labour about their lack of coherent policy on Brexit.

Good to see Woke Soubz on form as well.

eh, I know Novara/canary etc are really depressingly bad

no idea who these are but they look inconsequential to me?

The Canary
1,519 subscribers

Novara Media
26,757 subscribers

it's the steady drain of influence from the right wing print press that's heartening

Feel like this is otm, though it's a shame their flip-flopping on Brexit isn't noticed and shamed for what it is nearly enough.

For all it's flaws I think the Graun has been covering Brexit decently, which is prob all you can ask for atm.

(I'd confess to having become a subscriber to the Graun sometime last fall if it wouldn't rake up the fp's tbrh)

Novara had a seat on the live BBC2 coverage last night. xpost

Crap Patsy! Pass the vodka.

Can't wait for Loach's movie about a saintly, heart of gold postie who gets a bad back from too many low letterboxes

Ahem

Ash Sarkar is, in old ILXor speak, grebt.

otm

Also number of subscribers doesn't matter for any reasons other than commercial ones - what's important is the sort of content that flies on social media and both the Canary and Novara fall into that category. I don't like, read or trust either but Novara is a lot closer to being a legitimate operation than the Canary, which is pure fan-fiction.

If you thought last night was bad, today is bringing out the most odious of the braying members to back the govt

(I'd confess to having become a subscriber to the Graun sometime last fall if it wouldn't rake up the fp's tbrh)

FP'd u for this

xps
I'll keep my Loach controps off here, but lol.

xxp yep, off sick today and watching this on tv, what a fucking shower of braying shits the tory benches are

novara is just people having really loud conversations in the SOAS library

'Twas ever thus. (xp)

Also number of subscribers doesn't matter for any reasons other than commercial ones

yep sorry should have specified that was youtube subscribers.

though i think youtube views DO matter

but you're right on most things to do with all this tbf (reads as sarcastic, not intended to be!)

novara isn't *quite* just that -- james butler is always worth reading and ash sarkar is a very deft media performer -- but has never shed its roots in the occupy movement of 2011-ish, including a few too many of its nastier beefs from that era, which i think has squished its traction as an org in the left as a whole (let alone beyond the left)

Bastani does well to undermine any goodwill the neutral would have for them.

genuine lol at ash sarkar last night: “as lenin said, there are decades in politics where nothing happens, weeks where decades happen, and interviews where matt hancox ages 25 years from start to finish”

bastani is novara's mr blobby, in this medium essay i will

how dare u traduce mr blobby by association with aaron bastani

good luck reconciling these two statements

May says people voted for Brexit because they felt people were not listening to them. That is why it is important to implement the result of the referendum, she says.

May going in hard on Skripal, which is an under-rated weakness of Corbyn's

being a Putin suck-up is no impediment to leading a Western government in 2019 iirc

I do like New Socialist (or 'the other NS') but they don't do podcasts or YT type content.

She says, as a backbencher, Corbyn invited IRA terrorists into the Commons after they had bombed the prime minister.

please keep reminding us of cool stuff corbyn has done, cheers

May seems to be enjoying herself here, which is unsettling.

I like that they've realised that they can't win by critiquing Labour on any actual policy issue

Ironically, Chaos Division and Delay are actually the names of May's dogs.

does she actually believe this shit

She says the government is fighting injustices, And, as it leaves the EU, the country must raise its ambitions.

She is proud of what the government has achieved. The government has the confidence of the country. Now it is asking for the confidence of MPs too, she says.

I like that they've realised that they can't win by critiquing Labour on any actual policy issue

― stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague),

He should be wearing a tshirt that says "i got you on the policy tho innit"

i mean re novara or whatever i'm just contrasting w something like Secular Talk that has 600K subscribers, idk if theres a UK equivalent

Good thing there have never been any Tories who were members of terrorist organisations...

Had to look up who Secular Talk were because I'd never heard of them.

# of youtube subscribers not a definitive metric but Novara still beating the independent on that basis

I'd never heard of Novara but I also thought the Independent had gone bust 5 years ago (or maybe got a new name?). I guess Secular Talk not a fair comparison as not UK focussed

if we're going by subs then it's time we started talking abt one of the most important influencers in the media landscape: hbomberguy

contrapoints or gtfo imo

I think its best she doesn't get involved w british politics

May seems to be enjoying herself here, which is unsettling.

Because after yesterday, she'll get a win. And on it goes.