"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

lol EU ruling out any more negging for cunning plan b for now.

catching up with the headlines and lmao

Sorry I'm late, been watching in the pub

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

118 Tories voted against.

So how does this work now? No confidence vote tomorrow? And whether or not May survives, the dreaded No Deal is nigh?

No deal is the default if A50 isn’t revoked or extended.

This is just embarassing.

By my reckoning about 50 Tories regarded as sure supporters have voted the other way

I think May's going to start talking openly about extending Article 50 now, it's the only chance of getting whatever reworked deal she can cobble together through Parliament, and even that's extremely unlikely. When she said no Brexit was more likely than no deal, it was obvious who she was trying to threaten.

Near-on the same number that voted against her in the 1922 Committee shenanigans.

She just *could* lose the no confidence

My favorite line from the Washington Post coverage:

“The House must calm itself. Zen!” John Bercow shouted.

John Redwood voted against lol

just popping into the thread to say

lmao

fwiw, if anyone thinks the UK is leaving the EU in March, £30 will currently get you £150 with the bookies.

I love this guy talking about trains to a near empty chamber

has to be a50

and then nothing and itll never happen

corbs never gets pm tho

Sorry I'm late, been watching in the pub

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

― stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:03 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You found one god bless :DDD

Quoting Lenin to Andrew Neil!? Excellent.

:)

(not that I'm a leninist, just for the record)

and then looking down and checking her phone when mandy started speaking was good as well.

FWIW I think an entire political generation is about to be swept away off the back of this.

Genuine lol at the the state of Sammy Wilson.

fwiw, if anyone thinks the UK is leaving the EU in March, £30 will currently get you £150 with the bookies.

― ShariVari, Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:09 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bad bet. Tories won't support JC's tabled NoConf, because he's JC. May stays, will go to Europe begging for scraps that can be seen as gains opposed to the current deal, it will be voted upon and voted down again etc.

This result prob means Brexit is getting softer and softer; if it will happen at all.

EU says there's nothing to renegotiate, the loss is *so* massive she can't hope to fix it by tweaking the political agreement, so what use is there in extending A50? Hope? How willing will the EU be to reject a request like that?

boris on c4 news now saying that this vote actually gives may a massive mandate

god what a cunt

How much do you reckon the DUP are asking for their support tomorrow?

If May is going to cling on, I think LBI has it - she has to opt for permanent customs union to get Labour onside and keep the DUP. But then she genuinely will be in a destroy-the-Tories position because that's an actual red line for at least 1/3 of them

Flaccid Brexit is happening

Are we living in a simulation? [Started by Trϵϵship in January 2019, last updated six minutes ago by mh] 303 new answers

boris on c4 news now saying that this vote actually gives may a massive mandate

I mean sure if she was proposing a negative motion

ERG should have kept their powder dry

Developing:

Theresa May said they want to reach out

BUT

No10 also say their principles include securing an independent trade policy.

🚨I.e. no customs union with the EU, Labour’s main ask before talks even start🚨

(Now principles aren’t red lines but strong early hurdle)

— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) January 15, 2019

she is incapable of doing herself ANY favours

Boris Johnson’s fringe is doing a noticeable camouflaging of some alarming and recent male pattern baldness!

Not much 'mop on top'.

If May is going to cling on, I think LBI has it - she has to opt for permanent customs union to get Labour onside and keep the DUP. But then she genuinely will be in a destroy-the-Tories position because that's an actual red line for at least 1/3 of them

― stet, Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:16 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah. If she stays on - and she will, Baldrick-style - this 'Brexit' will get softer and softer.

Tories will be kicking themselves for squandering their NoConf motion too early.

rlb had veneers ?!

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn tables motion of no confidence in UK PM Theresa May's government after heavy defeat in MPs' #BrexitVote

Latest: https://t.co/JXfWlrcIzk pic.twitter.com/DbHiJcQVMZ

— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) January 15, 2019

The clip on the news didn't show him taking off his glasses. <key political importance.

rlb had veneers ?!

Tbf I was watching on my phone in the pub with a friend

Checking back on this in half hour gaps is incredible :D

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If May is going to cling on, I think LBI has it - she has to opt for permanent customs union to get Labour onside and keep the DUP. But then she genuinely will be in a destroy-the-Tories position because that's an actual red line for at least 1/3 of them

― stet, Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:16 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah. If she stays on - and she will, Baldrick-style - this 'Brexit' will get softer and softer.

Tories will be kicking themselves for squandering their NoConf motion too early.

FWIW I think an entire political generation is about to be swept away off the back of this.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:14 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe we can start with the commentariat

She's been doing very little except alienate members since she started, though.

what are the options ?

1. go all in on no deal

2. pledge to go back to the EU for concessions (which won't materialise) and just run down the clock some more i.e. no deal by another name

3. rapprochement with labour and soften brexit but split her party

4. extend article 50. in order to do so, she'll have to either offer the EU a concession: election or second ref. she'd probably roll dice on an election (corbyn surge is over, people feel sorry for her yadda yadda). this could - in theory - get her better parliamentary arithmetic though it's most likely this would be a 'kick the bastards out' not a 'steady as we go' election

anything else ?

She could unilaterally cancel A50.

I mean, she won't, but she could.

someone explain to my why all the hyperventilating about 1) just cancelling brexit entirely or 2) having a second referendum?

racists

plus democracy

a potent combo