The Jordan Peterson Thread

richard wolff has offered to debate peterson before, to no avail as yet, which would be a much more interesting proposition imo

this has more symmetry tho. woo-woo public intellectuals of the right and left

I was trying to explain Jordan Peterson and his meat diet to someone earlier today and I called him "Gwyneth Paltrow but for incels" and I feel like I've cracked a code

— Jessica Valenti (@JessicaValenti) February 25, 2019

He and Slavoj Zizek are going to debate or something. They deserve each other.

what is he the gwyneth paltrow of

or the something of for incels, take your pick

not the biggest zizek fan but they're hardly comparable offenders AFAICT

I like zizek

Gwyneth > Zizek > JP

Goes without saying. But zizek is still good too.

Gwynneth Paltrow’s pretty bad idk

i like zizek quite a bit but he probably does deserve to be in a debate with jordan peterson

So You Want to Be a Public Intellectual

that rewtweeted junk where Peterson’s daughter is helping shill their lifestyle by posting a bikini pic with the “wow eating all red meat killed my health, dad!” caption is waiting to be adapted into a family horror movie

it's very scary

I don't know Dad. It's been 14 months and I think I'm starting to see the scurvy and vitamin deficiencies creep in... @TheAtlantic pic.twitter.com/GMw6v6kwPh

— Mikhaila Peterson (@MikhailaAleksis) February 27, 2019

anyone willingly reading about JP deserves this exchange

there’s this weird fake conversational thing where she made a post, he responds with “you should explain” and she did that

it’s indistinguishable from informercial dialogue where they’re about to tell you what to buy

Mikhaila Peterson is the Jordan Peterson of Gwyneth Paltrow

Just me and Gwyneth. Spreading fake news everywhere! https://t.co/hT00uwWIo4 via @MailOnline

— Mikhaila Peterson (@MikhailaAleksis) December 4, 2018

The stench of her toilet must be unbelievable

Getting colon cancer to own the left

So psyched for this debate

Zizek will be a discursive mess and Peterson will be self righteous but stick to the talking points

but I hope he can properly flummox JP

maybe they will eat each other like in that svankmajer film

I can’t believe they already made a statue to commemorate Peterson vs. Zizek pic.twitter.com/jgbsaDYEkN

— L.L. Cool Bean (@glvno) March 2, 2019

Would prefer this to be a bare-knuckle bout tbh

hugely otm

foxy boxing or gtfo

If people switched to an all beef diet in any kind of numbers, the environmental impact would be absurd.

Like the end of the world

oh my god zizek would destroy him in a brawl, I just know it

Zizek is like 20 years older

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w8_PvFOEvg

zizek has that drunken bulky flopsweat vibe, definitely a brawler

Inuit diet >>>>> JP's diet.

I think JP vs. Zizek is a fair fight but JP would probably win. he's younger, he's "healthier" (I guess), and more than Zizek, he would REALLY want to win. he'd train. Zizek would forget about it until the day before

now, if Zizek can get a sucker punch in, or initiate a spontaneous brawl, he could absolutely fuck JP up animal style

there's gotta be no way Zizek is "healthy" in any way recognized by science

can totally see JP rolling up his shirt sleeves and adopting that 19th century dukes up stance

all Zisek has to do is slip him some apple cider before the bout...

Zizek will be a discursive mess and Peterson will be self righteous but stick to the talking points

― flappy bird, Saturday, 2 March 2019 05:24 (yesterday) Permalink

Yeah I suspect this is how it will play out for the most part.

I guarantee you though that Z is gonna be “Here I actually agree with you”-ing though, especially when it comes to anti-PC/idpol stuff.

i don't think they share much common ground on anti-idpol stuff, do they? for zizek i think identity politics are, like, misdirected expressions of a bigger liberatory impulse, coming from a leftist challenge to the prevailing social order, originally, whatever they've become, and because racism and sexism are real and urgent problems we should stop being polite about them to have a frank and honest discussion??? (a string of question marks to signify that i hope that's a correct reading of zizek and correct me please if i'm wrong), while jordan peterson believes that political correctness is a nihilistic conspiracy to attack western civilization and its values which are good and great things that must be protected at all costs, shutting down speech is done to support the idea of egalitarianism (we need strict hierarchies or rather strict hierarchies are built into our system which is the best) and compassion which are not good. (zizek on eu refugee situation, we need to have a frank conversation about the problem because it's necessary if europe is to welcome in the people that a western imperial-led global economy has rendered hopeless / jp, islam is bad and we need to talk about it because radical leftists/college professors/women in politics will use it to overturn western values and steal power from people that have risen to power by competence and authority).

authoritah

I'm sure this will be a mess in reality but Zizek's Lacanianism could, ideally, unravel JP's whole pseudo-Jungian schtick (I don't think JP is really equipped to unravel Zizek's schtick).

yall are talking about these guys like theyre pokemon which i am here for

i keep feeding zizek rare candy because i want to see what his evolved form looks like

it goes:
slavoj del toro -> slavoj zizek -> slavoj marx

Actually looking forward to this, but would much rather read transcript than watch and listen.

I feel that way about most things that are not music or movies.

I laughed way too much at this. pic.twitter.com/0vZoYlMcGR

— Rebecca Buxton (@RebeccaBuxton) March 2, 2019

I'll probably listen. The clashing of vocal tics seems like half the point of this debate.