https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article224221620.html
― j., Sunday, 13 January 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link
“The intent is never to scare anybody,” Roth told The Star. “The intent is never to freak anybody out."
maybe leave your gun at home then idk
― Berks & Cow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 January 2019 21:40 (five years ago) link
Harper has been the subject of multiple protective orders in Oklahoma, accused of threatening people with a rifle and attempting to run his ex-wife off the road with his truck.
ah, there it is.
sort of weird that they frame it as a first amendment thing. like you're...peaceably assembling just outside the boundaries of a nuclear facility, i guess? i don't know how the rhetoric usually works.
― circles, Sunday, 13 January 2019 21:52 (five years ago) link
In Australia, one of these cunts has just been gratifyingly done: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-19/geraldton-city-seizes-wayne-glew-land-for-non-payment-of-rates/10619944
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 14 January 2019 01:00 (five years ago) link
Check out this twat
Unhappy pensioner who tried to cite Australian case law and William Pitt in defence against conviction has appeal delayed
In November John Timbrell pleaded not guilty to obstructing a police officer in Mitcheldean – despite freely admitting in court that he obstructed a police officer.The 76-year-old told Cheltenham Magistrates’ Court a police arrest warrant is “fraudulent” if it does not have a wet seal. Timbrell then described the officers as “badly trained dummies” who do not know the difference between ‘lawful’ and ‘legal’.“Your rights as a police officer do not give you the authority to break common law,” he told PS Freeman.“The fact a living man can refuse jurisdiction from a court is not known to many police officers.”Timbrell then described the legal system as the “illegal system”.Giving evidence to the court, PC Varden said: “I didn’t know what he was on about.”
The 76-year-old told Cheltenham Magistrates’ Court a police arrest warrant is “fraudulent” if it does not have a wet seal.
Timbrell then described the officers as “badly trained dummies” who do not know the difference between ‘lawful’ and ‘legal’.
“Your rights as a police officer do not give you the authority to break common law,” he told PS Freeman.
“The fact a living man can refuse jurisdiction from a court is not known to many police officers.”
Timbrell then described the legal system as the “illegal system”.
Giving evidence to the court, PC Varden said: “I didn’t know what he was on about.”
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:15 (five years ago) link
Mr McCabe asked: “Did you use the internet in your research?”“I am not going to be trapped into that,” Timbrell replied.
“I am not going to be trapped into that,” Timbrell replied.
some of these need their internet taking off them
― unexplained drinking injuries (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 January 2019 11:26 (five years ago) link
Looks like he missed a trick by not making use of the fact that the police officer he obstructed was named Freeman.
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Sunday, 27 January 2019 12:32 (five years ago) link
this is getting worse and worse here as banks start to actually repossess the hard luck investors from the past double decade
our master of the high court is worth a google, hes been up to allsorts lately
― david waster phallus (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 January 2019 13:18 (five years ago) link
https://www.wigantoday.net/news/crime/freeman-of-the-land-causes-chaos-in-wigan-court-1-9594633
― the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Friday, 15 February 2019 01:38 (five years ago) link
Is this the right thread for these, er, pioneers? US man could face death penalty over Thailand 'sea home'
"We're looking forward to freedom loving people to come and join us on the open ocean"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bceePdFruU
― Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 18 April 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3cjtSbWMAAVBRx.jpg
― kinder, Thursday, 18 April 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
this is old and yet in another more accurate sense, evergreen: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1416262/Court-refuses-trial-by-combat.html
― mark s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
yeve seen the ben gilroy vid right
― daenerys baker (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 May 2019 20:58 (five years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/23/man-refused-to-register-sons-birth-high-court
[The judge] said the couple’s deliberate decision not to register the birth stemmed from the boy’s father’s unusual and somewhat eccentric beliefs about the concept of personal sovereignty. He said the boy’s mother was not prepared to register the birth herself, but was not opposed to somebody else registering it.He said the father had a genuinely held belief in the power and writ of the individual. The father told the judge: “We are each our own sovereign. We are governed by a common law but only to the extent that we depart from three principles. These three imperatives are: to do no harm; to cause no loss; to inflict no injury.”The judge said the father regarded registering a birth as the equivalent of making an entry on to a ship’s manifest. He argued that registering the birth would make the child “an asset to the country, which has boarded a vessel to sail on the high seas”.The judge added the essence of the father’s objection was “his belief that registration will cause his son to become controlled by a state which he perceives to be authoritarian and capricious”.
He said the father had a genuinely held belief in the power and writ of the individual. The father told the judge: “We are each our own sovereign. We are governed by a common law but only to the extent that we depart from three principles. These three imperatives are: to do no harm; to cause no loss; to inflict no injury.”
The judge said the father regarded registering a birth as the equivalent of making an entry on to a ship’s manifest. He argued that registering the birth would make the child “an asset to the country, which has boarded a vessel to sail on the high seas”.
The judge added the essence of the father’s objection was “his belief that registration will cause his son to become controlled by a state which he perceives to be authoritarian and capricious”.
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Sunday, 23 June 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link
the father’s objection was “his belief that registration will cause his son to become controlled by a state which he perceives to be authoritarian and capricious”.
He's both right and wrong about that one. The state is quite often authoritarian and capricious, and it does control those who live within its borders to a large extent, but his belief that failing to register his son's birth would have the slightest effect on this is just magical thinking of the worst sort.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 23 June 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
Oregon Republican's violent threat draws militia support
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Sunday, 23 June 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/germanys-new-mini-reichs/
The Reichsbürger’s ethno-nationalist ideology most closely resembles American strains of right-wing state-denying and secessionist groups known as “Sovereign Citizens.” Many of the exact conspiracy theories, tactics, and legal maneuvers employed by German Reichsbürger are borrowed from the Sovereign Citizens, whose earliest groupings can be traced back to the 1970s. Often survivalist or white nationalist in nature, Sovereign Citizens deny the legitimacy and jurisdiction of the US federal government and especially the IRS, claiming that the individual is inherently sovereign or that the highest authority is the local sheriff (as commissioned by local “free men”).The Australian sociologist Judy Lattas sees microstates as “a largely grievance-driven form of political protest” but with a much deeper significance for our present understanding of the nation-state and the individual. Small groups and individuals who declare their own state may take their vocabulary from the establishing ceremonies of larger states, but they “relocate” sovereignty onto an assertion of individual rights. Thomas Jefferson’s individual hand signing the Declaration of Independence represented not himself but the united will of the nation. Microstates insist that tiny groups and even single individuals also deserve the rights of a state.
The Australian sociologist Judy Lattas sees microstates as “a largely grievance-driven form of political protest” but with a much deeper significance for our present understanding of the nation-state and the individual. Small groups and individuals who declare their own state may take their vocabulary from the establishing ceremonies of larger states, but they “relocate” sovereignty onto an assertion of individual rights. Thomas Jefferson’s individual hand signing the Declaration of Independence represented not himself but the united will of the nation. Microstates insist that tiny groups and even single individuals also deserve the rights of a state.
― j., Sunday, 23 June 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
The Insanity in Oregon Is a Glimpse of Our Very Dark Future
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Monday, 24 June 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link
Pierce is doing what pundits do, taking a news story and spinning out a narrative. A lot of these narratives involve the future and the horrible consequences that will roll out of the original news story and day now.
Pierce could be right here. The implications of the Oregon Republicans openly embracing people who make serious threats of violence against their political opponents is ugly as hell and much too easy to normalize as just another baby step in a trend that's been building for more than a decade. But it's good to remember that pundits, like stock pickers, make a lot of bad or overwrought predictions, based on seeing trends that move only in one direction.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 24 June 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link
is there a more positive narrative?
― mookieproof, Monday, 24 June 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
I can't see the future.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 24 June 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link
xp no there isn't
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Monday, 24 June 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link
Let's see about that. Hmmm. How about:
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link
does this... remind you of anyone?
More details: https://t.co/Dmz4U9Tj46— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) July 2, 2019
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link
is it possible to be both a sovereign human being and a seven nation army?
― coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/tax-evasion-natural-person-michael-millar-appeal-1.5253991
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
Early in ILX's existence there was a Millar who posted here. Kind of a contrarian, given to outbursts. I wonder...
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 23 August 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
lol
― mookieproof, Friday, 23 August 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
washington state senator is a real piece of work: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/23/us/matt-shea-washington-extremism.html
ex-wife testified that he insisted she walk on his left side because his sword, if he had one, would be on his right
also no one wants to arrest him due to fears of a violent confrontation
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 12:04 (four years ago) link
Kansas man asks judge's leave for sword battle with ex-wife, lawyer
A Kansas man has asked an Iowa judge to let him engage in a sword fight with his ex-wife and her attorney so that he can “rend their souls” from their bodies.David Ostrom, 40, of Paola, Kansas, said in a Jan. 3 court filing that his former wife, Bridgette Ostrom, 38, of Harlan, Iowa, and her attorney, Matthew Hudson, had “destroyed (him) legally.” The Ostroms have been embroiled in disputes over custody and visitation issues and property tax payments.The judge had the power to let the parties “resolve our disputes on the field of battle, legally,” David Ostrom said, adding in his filing that trial by combat “has never been explicitly banned or restricted as a right in these United States.”He also asked the judge for 12 weeks’ time so he could secure Japanese samurai swords.
David Ostrom, 40, of Paola, Kansas, said in a Jan. 3 court filing that his former wife, Bridgette Ostrom, 38, of Harlan, Iowa, and her attorney, Matthew Hudson, had “destroyed (him) legally.” The Ostroms have been embroiled in disputes over custody and visitation issues and property tax payments.
The judge had the power to let the parties “resolve our disputes on the field of battle, legally,” David Ostrom said, adding in his filing that trial by combat “has never been explicitly banned or restricted as a right in these United States.”
He also asked the judge for 12 weeks’ time so he could secure Japanese samurai swords.
Of course he fucking did.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link
broke, classist: making fun of Florida Manfunny, wholesome: making fun of sovereign citizens
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
this lunacy has crossed to the UK. apparently here the magic words are "article 61 of MAGNA CARTA"
no surprise that there is a connection with brexiteers, antiquarians and a faintly hapless baron:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09qhsc4
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
lol that was hilarious.
― calzino, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link
The first freemen I became aware of that prompted me to start the thread where in the UK
― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:40 (four years ago) link
i met my first in 2009 through work on ach1ll
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link
it feels a very ancient kind of lunacy
― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:43 (four years ago) link
"antiquarian bookseller Gregg Lance-Watkins"
― calzino, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link
the guy who got sent down for drink driving and seriously hurting somebody then describes his prison time as his "apprenticeship" and says he had volunteered to be a hangman for the execution of the treacherous QEII!
― calzino, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
whats the penalty under art 61 of the magna carta of an irish lad using a vpn to listen to this podcast
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link
you get bled out till death like the subhuman pig eyed mick you are, overseen by an executioner who is a serial drink driver and did time for child porn in the 00's!
― calzino, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:34 (four years ago) link
fuckit, will we chance it anyway lads hah?
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:39 (four years ago) link
https://www.statesman.com/news/20200310/conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-charged-with-dwi-in-travis-co-authorities-say
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link
Driving While Idiot
sounds like a job for the freemen
it's not a car, it's a boat, and the dwi law only applies to airspace
― Psychedics with Rosie Swash (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link
sovereign citizen storyline in the new BOSCH
― mark s, Saturday, 18 April 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link
^^^ Was just coming here to mention this.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/FZDQeMl.jpg
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 April 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link
i'm just going to start posting coronavirus protest pictures here, rather than ruining all the other threads
don't click this thread if you don't want to see freedom
MAGA version of Tiananmen Square = blocking ambulances until someone reopens Waffle House
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 April 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link