one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol)

whiney as oxford don is a concept

new crime and detection series. when whiney arrives in oxford, he starts to shake things up - criminals, police, academics and porters are about to find their world turned upside down.

Wth hilarious consequences. tune in etc...

Just a pity Idris Elba is so closely associated with Luther.

hiyooo

So I hope everyone is clear on Labour policy after Marr then.

thought he performed better than usual on marr this time round - AM usually riles him up and he gets a bit near-shouty/impatient with him

big week coming up

and I wasn’t trying to say lol lammy u centrist melt upthread - there’s very little to disagree with in what he’s saying. and people like him need to continue to rail on this issue. but I feel like reversing the referendum is not a 3 year project (I know he has been consistently vocal) but a 30 year project.

in the dominic cummings speech posted upthread he talks about how he was reluctant to take on the lead in the leave campaign because he thought britons had probably gained a better understanding of the EU and what it does in the 15 years since he led “no to the euro”. what he found from talking to people was that they were actually in the round no clearer - this is for many reasons including the constant slow drip drip of anti EU press commentary and that the EU and european identity had never really become hegemonic in the UK (probably for many of the reasons in gyac’s thread posted above re: empire etc)

Nothing short of declaring for a referendum right this second is going to satisfy Labourish FBPEs, who have no appetite for reading the fucking conference flowchart or, Heaven forfend, waiting until after the vote on Tuesday. Basic. Fucking. Bitches.

The Corbyn ‘lemme finish!’ sounds like a dad with three boys, and gives me the LOLs.

Arghhh! Jeremy Corbyn just said on #Marr that the European Court of Human Rights is "in part an EU institution". It isn't! It's a totally separate institution, arising from a separate treaty which well pre-dates the EU and would remain in place whatever version of Brexit pic.twitter.com/uPy5JTodPr

— Adam Wagner (@AdamWagner1) January 13, 2019

? so? I get how there’s maybe an argument which says politicians conflate the EU and ECHR so that the negativity to the former pollutes the latter. corbyn clearly not doing that and simply misspoke, if anything.

the important part of that phase of the interview was where he spoke about how labour would have a foreign policy grounded in and guided by people’s universal human rights

oh and where he spoke about continuing to recognise the jurisdiction of the ECHR

The confusion might arise because May has been trying to leave the ECHR since she was Home Secretary.

I personally would never have voted for YC anyway, having seen my best friend hammered by disgraceful ATOS assessments for years, but I’d never seen this before and it shocked me:

How anyone can support Yvette Cooper is beyond me. pic.twitter.com/vnzqXEYaHh

— anita K (@a_nitak) January 11, 2019

oh aye, imagine how "politically homeless" many disabled ppl felt up to 2015. Cooper was also a big hostile environment stan. One leading disabled rights campaigner and Graun writer who I respect - still sticks up for Cooper. Fuck knows why.

Yeah I remember her frequently attacking Theresa May from the right on immigration (ffs)!

May is to start her most crucial week as prime minister with a speech at a factory in Stoke-on-Trent,

I, too, would start my most crucial week in a factory in Stoke-on-Trent.

Good luck UK.

Labour's @johnmcdonnellMP spells out with utter clarity the party's strategy: straight vote against May deal Tuesday. Then No Confidence vote. If that fails Parliament takes control (Norway, CU etc). If no Commons solution, then second referendum. Excellent plan let's execute!

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) January 14, 2019

execute u say

Amazing thread: May's example of the Welsh Assembly getting broad and unquestioned support after the referendum squeaking through is completely false, and one of those voting against implementing it was herself:

6/ No wait, there's more, the Prime Minister herself indeed voted against implementing the result of the Welsh referendum, contrary to the quite outrageous lie she plans to utter later today https://t.co/9UmCct6CoP

— Steve Peers (@StevePeers) January 14, 2019

Good luck UK. Btw japan is just about to loosen its immigration policy, so you have options.

lol, the future is Japan and other asia-pacific nations fighting over who gets the most poor immigrants escaping the great western decline. Well, environmental apocalypse aside.

btw, is you say 'I want to join the party' into your huwawei smart phone, instant Chinese citizenship.

president xi pls arrange for extraordinary rendition for me and my family

Can you claim any Uighur ancestry because that will expedite your entry into a reeducation facility?

president xi pls help me better understand socialism with chinese characteristics

I believe they have a domestic social credit points system, it would only be fair to have an immigration points system as well - as Deng once said : " if it shits all over the floor then it's deffo a bad western cat".

I see Boris is creeping the 12ft lizards excuse.

preparing

I’m reading the page about being an EU person with a non- EU spouse and I’m dying at the example of shit practice using the UK:

Sample story

Irina is German and lives in the United Kingdom. Her Russian mother applied for a residence card in the United Kingdom, for which she was required to hand in her passport.

The British authorities told Irina that issuing the residence card could take up to 1 year. Irina's mother was worried that if she couldn't get her passport back in time, she wouldn't be able to go to Russia for Christmas, or be allowed back into the UK afterwards.

In fact, the residence rights of non-EU family members mean that the British authorities had to issue a residence card within 6 months and could not keep the passport during that period.

Home Office vmic.

The relevant page is here: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/family-residence-rights/non-eu-wife-husband-children/index_en.htm

Should we start a new thread? I think things are going to move very fast over the next few days and this one is approaching 5000 messages now.

I was just thinking that.

Silly inappropriately flippant title reqd.

lol we're all gonna die pt 2: DIE HARDER

vg

No bananas today?

tomorrow's glorious vote would be a perfect closer to this beast of a thread. not married to it tho.

fully automated misery communism vs austerity - the future's looking shite.

"(they) will fuck us all with their blithe ignorance"

probably potential for a new thread title in there, or even if not good work anyway.

― calzino, Saturday, 22 December 2018 16:05 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If I can also recommend this from before Christmas (although I much prefer the banana one)

"(they) will fuck us all with their blithe ignorance"

probably potential for a new thread title in there, or even if not good work anyway.

― calzino, Saturday, 22 December 2018 16:05 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If I can also recommend this from before Christmas (although I much prefer the banana one)

Let's call the whole thing off?

No bananas (and other summer jams)

I figure tomorrow's vote and its immediate fallout will be good for another grand!

Full Blobby, Punished Edmonds: the Brexit thread

A+

Good luck UK. Btw japan is just about to loosen its immigration policy, so you have options.

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 14 January 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So we don't need the EU to actually relax our migration policy? Like Japan, we can allow people to just come in anyway. And we can do so where migrants can get jobs that pay well under good conditions, and to live in stable tenancies, and to get on with their lives without fear and discrimnation propagated by a right-wing media?

Sounds cool.

"To Hell with the rest of the world": Colin the Angry Owl speaks for no-one. UK Brexit endgame thread.

He's ready!

Ninth Dimensional chess and Unicorn hunting - anything could happen now May's lost the Brexit vote

Is that even true of Japan? I’d describe JP as a lot of things but friendly to foreigners isn’t one of them. When I was there before Christmas the metro had loads of ads encouraging people to be nice to foreigners because the Olympics were coming up. Suspect it may be more in line with the Gulf state guest worker model.

On that note, I wonder how much hate of EU immigrants here is driven by the fact we have most of the same rights as British people? Obviously some things are difficult but it’s pretty easy to establish a life in the EU under freedom of movement.

Yes, Japan treats foreigners, especially non-white low skilled foreigners like shit,. And it has a government that panders to its knuckle dragging nationalist elements by fighting with Russia over some islands and killing whales.

Nick Ferrari to Boris Johnson: "I would suggest he [the Chief Executive of Land Rover] knows more about car manufacturing than you do"

Boris Johnson: "Interesting point. I'm not certain he does."

— Shehab Khan (@ShehabKhan) January 14, 2019