The Beto dental cleaning...please stop.
― Yerac, Thursday, 10 January 2019 20:04 (seven years ago)
Rick Perlstein about AOC
I think psychologically there’s a lot of, shall we say, neurosis. Again, going back to this trauma of the Reagan victory, the Gingrich victory, the Bush victories—it’s people who built their political identities around a neurotic response to trauma. It’s, We gotta build a protective shell around ourselves because, if we show our egos, our egos will be destroyed, to put it in psychoanalytic terms.
To have this young person who hasn’t experienced this trauma . . and one of the things that’s fascinating about this—I’ll call it an often-used word—authenticity that she has is that you see her, in very interesting ways, going back to modes of rhetoric and modes of political communication that you associate with lots of pre-Reagan figures. Although I’ll also say figures like Reagan. It’s like Harry Truman.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 January 2019 20:32 (seven years ago)
AOC sparks joy.
― Yerac, Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:02 (seven years ago)
that's v interesting, i'm unfamiliar with perlstein -- is he somebody to appreciate
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:03 (seven years ago)
yes
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:06 (seven years ago)
yeah I liked that interview
― jaymc, Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:08 (seven years ago)
Chotiner comes off like a real asshole in that interview, displaying the exact pathologies Perlstein is talking about, and I'm glad he pushes back and calls him out on it ("You sound like one of these super-analytic Democrats—you’re immediately negotiating with yourself, you’re immediately apologizing.").
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:11 (seven years ago)
If you haven't read Perlstein's late twentieth century trilogy on the history of conservativism (Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan), I envy you -- I'd love to read them again afresh.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:18 (seven years ago)
yeah HOOS, read Nixonland
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:23 (seven years ago)
honestly I couldn't tell if Hoos was being sarcastic or not
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:23 (seven years ago)
The next clip in Beto's Insta-story is him interviewing his Mexican-American dental hygienist -- Diana from El Paso -- about her experiences on the border & how her neighbors helped her mom pass her citizenship test.Can we please chill w/ the cynicism?https://t.co/D1bvDrdp6J pic.twitter.com/bgXi4GB8rr— Dan Lavoie (@djlavoie) January 10, 2019
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:27 (seven years ago)
One of the great mysteries to me is why Tammy Baldwin has such a low profile as a model for progressive electoral success in not-overwhelmingly-progressive states. Still feel like she's not well-known outside the Midwest.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:31 (seven years ago)
xp Nixonland and The Invisible Bridge are both great. Perlstein's take on AOC's strengths is really interesting.
― Brad C., Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:34 (seven years ago)
I was wondering about that. We're pretty divided among Republican and Democrat but Tammy just steamrolls everyone. People really like her here.
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:36 (seven years ago)
it's a little surreal, still again, to see my tiny hometown of mcallen blow up in the news
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:50 (seven years ago)
more weak ass centrism from Fred, what a surprise
― sleeve, 10. januar 2019 20:24 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao. I literally posted from the same twitter-thread as Simon. You're a joke.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 10 January 2019 23:24 (seven years ago)
Perlstein is great but depressing as hell.
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 10 January 2019 23:32 (seven years ago)
i've said this before but i found nixonland weirdly uplifting in a Nothing New Under The Sun sense
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 January 2019 23:44 (seven years ago)
yeah I don't find it depressing. bracing, maybe.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 January 2019 23:47 (seven years ago)
this country has always been fucking insane
i found nixonland weirdly uplifting in a Nothing New Under The Sun sense
ha yep
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 11 January 2019 00:04 (seven years ago)
Can you believe that our country was once very polarized? (Um yeah I live in Virginia.)
― Twas in the fleek midwinter (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 11 January 2019 00:43 (seven years ago)
the Ojeda response vid to Beto is not bad, the guy still weirds me out but it should be fun to see him share a stage w/ the other candidates
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 11 January 2019 01:22 (seven years ago)
But Ojeda ignored that the point about Beto’s video was interviewing the Mexican American dental hygienist, part of his series of talking to more people who live on the border. Just like you’re doing. Hmmm. That’s fucked up and bad dude.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 11 January 2019 02:40 (seven years ago)
The reactions to a still from the Beto vid and the “Gillibrabd called a couple bankers” CNBC story reaffirms that we’re going to going to gleefully embrace “Dean scream” shit in an amplified way. We. Are. Fucked.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 11 January 2019 02:54 (seven years ago)
Not saying this to be a dick bc it’s something I have to keep in mind too, but Twitter is a pretty poor proxy for America.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 11 January 2019 03:06 (seven years ago)
No I get that. That’s not being a dick. I think it’s interesting I hesistate to dismiss what it represent yet think its effect is likely overstated but no way to really gauge. I think it was Osita Nwanevu or somebody like that had a post recently about how when the regular non-extremely online Dem voters pay attention to the primary when it’s in full swing they are going to just really like all the new faces and the more progressive policies on display across the board. There might be truth to that.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 11 January 2019 03:35 (seven years ago)
New party, who dis? https://t.co/2cznisv8tB— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) January 11, 2019
― frogbs, Friday, 11 January 2019 04:21 (seven years ago)
mad she didn't get the Connecticut for Lieberman Party nomination obv
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 11 January 2019 13:44 (seven years ago)
from Joe-mentum to Joe-demsplain
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:05 (seven years ago)
Agreed that reading the first 2/3 of the Perlstein trilogy during this particular historical shitstorm had a weirdly depressurizing effect (because, yes, the manifestation of the country's insanity hasn't varied significantly for at least the past half century) but I feel like I still need to properly brace myself before tackling Reagan.
― A Nugatory Excrescence (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:15 (seven years ago)
that piece making the rounds where AOC's Dem colleagues whinge about her is hilarious
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:23 (seven years ago)
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/11/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-democrats-establisment-1093728
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:24 (seven years ago)
lol that is some pathetic tut-tutting
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:33 (seven years ago)
That article reads like middle managers who are mad new employees start work and make fun of them for printing out all their emails in hardcopy to file.
― Yerac, Friday, 11 January 2019 14:40 (seven years ago)
Imagine thinking "yeah, this is a great idea for an article and it'd be even greater for me to participate in this"
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:43 (seven years ago)
but her tweets
― L'assie (Euler), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:46 (seven years ago)
I mean it does suck when new people start work and show you up right away.
― Yerac, Friday, 11 January 2019 14:52 (seven years ago)
“I’m sure Ms. Cortez means well, but there’s almost an outstanding rule: Don’t attack your own people,” said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.). “Like what I'm doing right now? This thing where I'm publicly criticizing Ms. Cortez? We're totally not supposed to do that, ever.”
― A Nugatory Excrescence (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 January 2019 15:00 (seven years ago)
This Vox piece on everything wrong with Joe Biden is worth reading, just as a reminder of all the ways he's sucked over the last four decades. He really, really, really should not run - if he does, it will be a public pants-shitting like few we've seen before.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 11 January 2019 15:03 (seven years ago)
I say he should run so the Dem who gets the nomination has "Beat Frontrunner Biden" on their resume
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 11 January 2019 15:21 (seven years ago)
To quote Alan Moore: “None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with YOU. You're locked up in here with ME.” 🤣 https://t.co/8TCmKNJlkD— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) January 11, 2019
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 11 January 2019 16:22 (seven years ago)
ugh Rorscach quotes
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 16:25 (seven years ago)
Seriously, congresspeople always citing the lamest Alan Moore passages
― A Nugatory Excrescence (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 January 2019 16:29 (seven years ago)
That quote is such a bad idea.
― If Your Site Mod Vomits (Do This Every Day) (WmC), Friday, 11 January 2019 16:35 (seven years ago)
She should tweet “Pokémon Go to the polls” and see if anyone notices
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 11 January 2019 16:37 (seven years ago)
I thought "New Party, Who Diss" was a lame clapback too
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 11 January 2019 16:39 (seven years ago)
ITT we judge both the political acumen and the coolness of each and every AOC tweet.
― A Nugatory Excrescence (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 January 2019 16:40 (seven years ago)
well, yeah
― If Your Site Mod Vomits (Do This Every Day) (WmC), Friday, 11 January 2019 16:41 (seven years ago)
well if tweets are aiming for coolness
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 11 January 2019 16:41 (seven years ago)