US Politics January 2019: we are #ready to drop something much, much bigger

regarding polls and blame for the shutdown, still more polled are blaming Trump than Democrats, though Republicans are absurdly bearing little to none of the blame even though it's them refusing to buck the Prez as well. Even one of my best friends yesterday thought this was more a R v D battle until I set him straight.

but 538 says the long-term damage from these things amongst voters is minimal, so I doubt this would swing an election one way or another. I'm glad at least we don't have midterms going on. House Dems need to keep turning the screws, though I feel incredibly guilty that it's on the backs of so many employees.

Trump not having a wall by 2020, that might move a few more voters, though his base will probably just be more encouraged to vote for him cos "without him,, there's 0% chance at a wall!"

xpost Yeah no one even remembers the previous two - two! - Trump shutdowns.

the last one was billed as Dem shutdown

regarding polls and blame for the shutdown, still more polled are blaming Trump than Democrats, though Republicans are absurdly bearing little to none of the blame even though it's them refusing to buck the Prez as well. Even one of my best friends yesterday thought this was more a R v D battle until I set him straight.

well, he did say in his December meeting that he would accept responsibility

was "proud to"

A large part of McConnell is like, "Cool, bro."

sadly, I really do think this thing could go on for six months and it would end up having little to no effect on 2020 since that's so far out and so much other shit will happen between say July of this year and November of next.

and i don't see it ending any other way besides a) Trump declaring a national emergency or b) the Democrats extracting significant concessions in exchange for wall funding. and I can't make up my mind if b) is a good idea, politically (of course, it very well may still be a total nonstarter to the immigration restrictionists like Miller just like it was last year).

it would end up having little to no effect on 2020 since that's so far out

it will be out of the news, certainly, but i don't think the federal workers now going unpaid are going to forget

I'm kind of immune to worry as by now, there have been all kinds of worries that Trump will just do illegal things and dare Congress to sort it out, and while it's happened here and there the major ones, he's always blinked, mostly cos his bluff keeps getting called in the press.

He doesn't have an Addington to help him.

without "lock her up" and "build a wall" i wonder what the new shitty chant they will come up with in 2020

the same?

Dems should really try to get a DACA-for-Wall deal, if only to see it being first accepted, then shut down once Trump watches some more Tucker.

we'll build a Wall if Trump resigns

White House lawyers are prepping the legal justification for a national emergency declaration. This has included advising aides to ramp up "crisis" talk. Lawyers suggest the more times they say it, the more often they can point to it in a legal defense filing, per @Kevinliptakcnn

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) January 10, 2019

seems like this, too, might also make it into a filing https://t.co/qgM4Famkli

— Kilgore Trout (@KT_So_It_Goes) January 10, 2019

oh for the days when Wag the Dog was this implausible comedy

regarding polls and blame for the shutdown, still more polled are blaming Trump than Democrats, though Republicans are absurdly bearing little to none of the blame even though it's them refusing to buck the Prez as well. Even one of my best friends yesterday thought this was more a R v D battle until I set him straight.

trump basically is the GOP these days so its splitting hairs, imo. at least the public doesn't see a difference.

Ha, holy shit!

What the fresh hell. This is REAL. Filmed in 1958- about a conman who grifts a small town of suckers into building a wall. History not subtle enough for you? GUESS THE GRIFTER'S NAME
(And watch until the end) pic.twitter.com/6FA3p6KC00

— Alex Hirsch (@_AlexHirsch) January 9, 2019

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trackdown-trump-character-wall/

"True!"

Narrator: The people were ready to believe. Like sheep they ran to the slaughterhouse. And waiting for them was the high priest of fraud.

Trump: I am the only one. Trust me. I can build a wall around your homes that nothing will penetrate.

Townperson: What do we do? How can we save ourselves?

Trump: You ask how do you build that wall. You ask, and I’m here to tell you.

That is too ridiculous. We're living in a simulation.

U2 played that clip during their Joshua Tree nostalgia tour

why don't they make the whole wall out of blackbox

yeah that plus the unearthed clip of Trump telling people not to let walls stop them and the fact that nearly everything he says is directly contradicted by an old tweet of his, its weird

this is a gold mine of that stuff https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/

there's a good chance we're living in a Twilight World-style simulation where Trump has to live out all his old tweets from 2010-2014 and that there are people obsessively studying them right now in order to divine the future

Oh wow the surprise I feel such a shock yup etc

Sen Collins tells me that the deal in the works for a bipartisan immigration deal to end the shutdown is now all but dead... shutdown continues

— Robert Costa (@costareports) January 10, 2019

“It’s run into some difficulties,” Sen Collins says grimly of the side discussion led by Graham and involving Kushner, blaming both Pres Trump and Speaker Pelosi for refusing to “budge” from their positions

— Robert Costa (@costareports) January 10, 2019

hey, can everyone on this thread make some homemade chocolate chip cookies and bring them to me? preferably one delivery a day, 10-20 cookies so I can share them with people at work? I expect everyone else to coordinate with each other to figure out the schedule. I'll also need someone to act as the point person for me on this because i am very busy.

...WHY WON'T YOU ALL BUDGE ON THIS???

hmmm, could it be that my position is incredibly dumb? no, that's can't be, my dad gave me money

*points, laughs*

My statement on the New York Times article. pic.twitter.com/IjBHgZYgRD

— Steve King (@SteveKingIA) January 10, 2019

Meantime, when that's all you got...

TRUMP: "They drive, they just go where there's no security, fencing or walls of any kind, they just make a left into US & they come in and they have women tied up, they have tape over their mouths, electrical tape. Powerful stuff. Not good."

Fox News quickly cuts away. pic.twitter.com/EOrVuSRHrB

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 10, 2019

U2 played that clip during their Joshua Tree nostalgia tour

and meanwhile people are literally cutting down Joshua trees so they can drive their 4-wheelers over the stumps with no park rangers on duty to stop them

why do you hate freedom?

It has "deer" in it

did steve king tweet a photo he took of a printed out copy of his statement?

still think about this tweet sometimes

Eventually, but at a later date so we can get started early, Mexico will be paying, in some form, for the badly needed border wall.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 23, 2017

jesus

correct use of commas for the most part

First things first
He will tweet
All the words inside his head

I think we're in the Phantom Zone now.

Trump: "A wheel is older than a wall. And I looked, and every single car out there, even the really expensive ones that the Secret Service uses, and believe me they are expensive, I said, 'Do they all have wheels?' 'Yes.' 'Oh. I thought it was medieval.'"

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 10, 2019

Build the Moat!

would be funnier if he was being interviewed on Air Force One

Be funnier if the roof of the plane flew off

Be funniest if we all die

Yay uh wait.

Just in. Public testimony, I'll note.

Michael Cohen Agrees to Testify to Congress About Work for Trump https://t.co/2ZesAPFqWa

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 10, 2019

BREAKING: Shocking image of Mexican drug gangs clashing with border patrol in remote border location

https://brightcove04pmdo-a.akamaihd.net/3653334524001/3653334524001_4555911429001_4555853737001-vs.jpg

thinking a lot about that Chris Hayes quote "if your parents started speaking like Trump does you'd think about putting them in a home"

There are few venues outside of the presidency wherein the Trump of today at his Trumpiest wouldn't be fired/evicted/arrested/committed/generally shunned by society. Which is, y'know, kind of fucked up.