one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol)

Bush good (if sloppily edited) as ever on this: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2019/01/what-does-john-bercows-unprecedented-action-mean-brexit-and-him

Suspect we’ve become so used to govts with working (or worse, whopping) majorities that we act as if the exec has more powers than it actually does.

FTPA could make the truth of the situation starker, with parliament repeatedly owning near-zombie executives it can’t quite expel.

The spokesman said in relation to “the motion that would follow from the Grieve amendment, there would only be 90 minutes of debate on the motion is our understanding and only one amendment could be selected. We anticipate," the spokesman added, "that amendment to comprise a simple declaration that it is remainers who are, in fact, the ball-lickers."

just listening to a report on the Seaborne Ferries embarrassment, this thing is not going away and Grayling could be in shit over breaking procurement procedure rules.

Owned by May yesterday and by Gove today.

Environment secretary Michael Gove had this blunt assessment of Labour's official Brexit position during the second debate on Theresa May's deal pic.twitter.com/vYwIZl44mz

— ITV News (@itvnews) January 10, 2019

Add in Richard Burgon self-owning on Today this morning and Corbz asking TM to call for a GE rather than him and it's not been a happy couple of days for Labour.

Oh and there's this, which probably wasn't the result hoped for:

I keep hearing from FBPE people that Yvette Cooper should be Labour leader. But I don't know a single person who would vote for her. To show the #FBPE gang how wrong they are, please vote in my poll.

Who do you want as Labour leader?

Retweet for good sample size

— Colin #GTTO (@ColinCorbynista) January 9, 2019

(72% for Cooper)

I mean there’s significant evidence about YC’s electoral appeal as Labour leader, but all twitter polls are a joke. The next leader will be from the left. (Pidcock pls)

Corbz asking TM to call for a GE rather than him

This is how the fixed term parliament act works lol

noted former ILXor Pipecock for PM IMO

I always try and knack these stupid twitter polls by voting the Tories or May.

This is how the fixed term parliament act works lol

I'll rephrase, rather than him going down the No Confidence route (which he still says he'll do if/when he thinks he can win).

There's nothing wrong with keeping your powder dry until the right time imo, but if you're going to go hard on "the House can't have any confidence in a party that can't pass its own motions" then you need to act on it. All his rhetoric suggests Tuesday is the right time. I bet it won't be.

And yes all twitter polls are utter shite but I don't think ColinCorbynista knows that.

Idg the point then. Some random pro-Corbyn account has a poll spammed by Cooper supporters? Cool. Members still aren’t going to vote for her.

It's probably more a 72% victory for 'showing up the grandstanding social media twat' but who cares, it's all just noise.

It's all all just noise at this point.

So much noise its like 'Metal Machine Music' rn!

Ur rong, labour rules mean that yvette cooper now becomes part leader with effect from midnight tonight

Party leader lol way to make ur crap joke even shitter bananaman

as one of the magic "adults in the room" she would be no part leader, a proper full-leader with brexit vanquished and Labour would be 30 pts clear in the polls.

and she’d continue to deliver the changes hard working people want to see on work capability assessments!

I think "part leader" was a better joke, lol fyi etc

George Freeman first Tory to break ranks back to voting for WA even though he doesn't like it.

seems legit

Downing Street has said that if Theresa May’s deal is voted down, any debate over a Brexit plan B would be 90 minutes long and only one amendment would be allowed.

The prime minister’s spokesman told reporters at Thursday morning’s lobby briefing that No 10’s understanding of the Dominic Grieve amendment, which requires May to outline a plan B in three working days if she is defeated, was that only a limited debate would then be allowed.

The spokesman said: “[In relation to] the motion that would follow from the Grieve amendment, there would only be 90 minutes of debate on the motion is our understanding and only one amendment could be selected.”

+ injury time, etc

has VAR been implemented in the Commons yet?

the problem with english parliamentarians in europe bill, is that they only look good because theyre surrounded by better parliamentarians

- j. giles

they’re spoofers liam, they’re a nation in decline. This is why everyone wants them to lose! - dunpho

Also I just remembered Bill is dead :(

Downing Street has said that if Theresa May’s deal is voted down, any debate over a Brexit plan B would be 90 minutes long and only one amendment would be allowed.
The prime minister’s spokesman told reporters at Thursday morning’s lobby briefing that No 10’s understanding of the Dominic Grieve amendment, which requires May to outline a plan B in three working days if she is defeated, was that only a limited debate would then be allowed.

The spokesman said: “[In relation to] the motion that would follow from the Grieve amendment, there would only be 90 minutes of debate on the motion is our understanding and only one amendment could be selected.”

Woman of the hour Yvette asks the question, Bercow confirms this is the correct procedure.

Sweepstakes on which backbench Tory twat is going to try and filibuster the whole thing?

that one that hates women hasn’t been in the news for a bit

you’ll have to be more specific

Ah now, if he hated women, would he be married to Esther McVey?

McVey and Davies aren’t married yet.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/1ecd132d4fd6df39ad63c417bf6922be634dbf40/366_499_3304_1982/master/3304.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=023c4dd09257e95926d2eae77b95e82e

this is what a married couple look like.

Fiona Bruce making QT watchable here! Punishing Cleverley over the utter lack of Plan B; what *are* they going to come up with that is even worth 90 minutes of debate?

yeah she mugged him off good!

I mean, fine, not a lot to disagree w here (though what’s that para about ~leadership~ all about) but one speech isn’t going to Stop Brexit. you needed a drip drip drip of these for years mate

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-01-10/debates/159740E3-991B-4DF4-A29C-D04B2F1CE10F/EuropeanUnion(Withdrawal)Act

"Is it raining? I hadn't noticed"

Whose speech do you mean?

Mr Speaker
The Secretary of State might wish to describe to us his cheese selection and his salivation over it.

oh sorry thought the hansard url was a direct link. lammy’s

[Unasked for advice alert] You have to click the little share button on the right side of the speech to get the direct link.

http://bit.ly/2D39Mwe

I know - no-one likes a show off.

re: Lammy's "socialism in one country" quip. I thought we'd already established that there isn't really anything in the current Labour manifesto that is more radical than what is already there in much of North and Western Eurozone countries. Fucking daft talk man!

Yes, but once we're out from the shackles of Brussels we'll be able to pursue a much more radical agenda!

j/k

Current Labour manifesto, no. Wider Lexit fantasies yes, that's what he's arguing against there.

I don't even have a problem with the leadership bit per se, this is a government that is transparently afraid of the press and afraid of a handful of right-wing extremists (even more extreme right than them lol) and half of them clearly believe this the wrong thing to do.

In any case Lammy has talked about Brexit virtually non-stop for three years, including in places where people pay considerably more attention than they do to Parliamentary speeches. If that's not a constant drip-drip I don't know what is.

xp
then we became a socialist autarky with our international baking system dwarfing the banking one :p

if Lammy put as much energy into opposing gentrification on his own doorstep as he does brexit, and occasionally voted against using weapons of death on poor foreigns then I might have a modicum of respect for him. As it is I think he's totally overrated.

I feel like this will get Streetinged immediately knowing my luck lol, but Lammy absolutely did oppose what’s going on in Haringey and sided against the councillors who were trying to make out the opposition was a Momentum plot.

He didn't much choice at that point though did he? Previously I've seen him stanning for affordable housing bollox.

Lammy's always been overrated.

Yeah possibly! He’s such a hate figure for the fash though that I have difficulty holding his melty opinions against him too much.

Yeah Lammy and Kober definitely did not see eye to eye on the demolition of Haringey social housing. But if you feel Brexit is going to be disastrous for your constituents you have a duty to oppose it and in doing so you probably have bigger things to worry about than annoying a few Twitter leftists.