one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol)

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& when Maitlis said to him that a few female MPs had refused to take part because he was on he said "really? can I have their names and addresses?"...

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:02 (seven years ago)

this summer local drug dealers apparently ran a circus out of town because they'd pitched their tent on their smack dealing turf. I thought that was quite amusing tbh. The Press ran this totally inflammatory front page about "Asian Gangs" when the truth was much less sinister. I've literally walked through this park hundreds of times and never seen a gang once. The odd drug dealer maybe but wgaf! It's a pure vile rag.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:14 (seven years ago)

Barry Gardiner states on Today that a No Confidence vote will be proposed directly if the vote on the WA is lost on Tuesday.

An hour later he issues a retraction and says that is a personal opinion and not party policy.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 08:41 (seven years ago)

he's such a smooth operator.

I noticed that YouGov have done Corbyn a solid by polling his policies abroad and they are very popular throughout the Eurozone and the USA.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:31 (seven years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwdMajpXQAAHVLB.jpg

calzino, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:32 (seven years ago)

good luck usa

tacticool spank bank material (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:36 (seven years ago)

All of those policies are popular here as well, the only one that tanks is the nuclear weapons thing which, amazingly, tanks in other post-imperial countries as well.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:40 (seven years ago)

the faded colonial powers still doing a good job of brainwashing their citizens.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:47 (seven years ago)

Forgot to post yesterday that Kwasi Kwarteng made the point on Today that the MPs saying No Deal must be stopped "at all costs" do currently have a mechanism for stopping No Deal which is to vote for the WA. So they don't actually mean "at all costs" - hence the drive from people like Stephen Barclay this morning pushing the "can't just say what you don't want, you have to accompany it with what you do want" line.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 10:24 (seven years ago)

lol

NEW

John Bercow being advised by the clerks of the House that Grieve amendment should not be touched.

That doesn't mean he won't select it - this is John Bercow after all.

But if he does so he will be going against the finest minds on parliamentary procedure in the Commons.

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 9, 2019

We are now in full-fledged constitutional crisis territory.

Bercow has accepted the Grieve amendment which *his own clerks* say is against the standing orders of the House.

This is going to be carnage.

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 9, 2019

One ERG MP suggests he and his colleagues could protest by referring to John Bercow as "Mr Remainer" rather than "Mr Speaker" in the Commons...

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) January 9, 2019

New:

John Bercow's spokeswoman confirms that the Grieve amendment has been selected.

I'm told separately that Bercow held a meeting about it this morning with Sir David Natzler, the Clerk of the Commons, who advised him against selecting it.

Bercow did not agree.

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 9, 2019

First pmqs of the year in ten minutes!

gyac, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 11:48 (seven years ago)

pmqsl

topical mlady (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 11:56 (seven years ago)

*grabs imaginary ceremonial mace and shakes it vigorously*

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 11:59 (seven years ago)

*with one hand*

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 11:59 (seven years ago)

That was absolutely dreadful.

gyac, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 12:19 (seven years ago)

Aye, running in circles here.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 12:23 (seven years ago)

BBC share facility seems not to work.

Labour MP Meg Hillier says the prime minister has had "20 dancing rebels, promised five golden trade agreements and has had one big defeat" yet she "still can't find her withdrawal agreement".

She asks if Theresa May has checked her pear tree.

Theresa May says "it was a good attempt but Christmas happened a few weeks ago".

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:00 (seven years ago)

narrator: it wasn't a good attempt

tacticool spank bank material (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:01 (seven years ago)

Audience: "Oh no it Wasn't!!"

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:02 (seven years ago)

Bercow defending his decision to the teeth, annoying brexiteers.

Bercow says the business motion said no motion could be moved other than by a minister of the crown. But we are not talking about a motion, he says; we are talking about an amendment.

There is loud jeering in the chamber soon. Very loudly, someone said: “Sorry, that is absolute [word indistinct.]

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:05 (seven years ago)

> BBC share facility seems not to work.

link goes to the right place (for me), but that place isn't one that ilx knows how to expand so it just appears as a link.

koogs, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:12 (seven years ago)

That makes sense.

Unlike the politics du jour, amirite?

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:19 (seven years ago)

I'm quite certain there's something wrong with me, but I'm thoroughly enjoying this.

Clearly John Bercow is relishing confrontation with government and Tory critics. The smile on his face shows he has been waiting and preparing for this moment, the most significant of his speakership and perhaps of any modern speakership

— Nicholas Watt (@nicholaswatt) January 9, 2019

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:56 (seven years ago)

Bercow denies having anti-Brexit sticker on his car - saying it's his wife's

Adam Holloway, a Conservative, says there is an anti-Brexit sticker on Bercow’s car. He says MPs have seen. This casts doubt on Bercow’s impartiality, he says.

Bercow says Holloway is wrong. That sticker is on his wife’s car, he says. And he says he is sure Holloway is not suggesting a wife is the property or chattel of her husband. A wife is entitled to her own views.

Some MPs applaud Bercow for this.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:00 (seven years ago)

Imagine getting owned by Theresa May though?

I love the image of Tory MPs spotting this car and sending each other updates on this sticker in their myriad Whatsapp groups.

gyac, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:18 (seven years ago)

i love the elevated level of political discourse in the mother of parliaments

I can't dérive fifty-feev (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:23 (seven years ago)

Ken Clarke telling John Bercow's opponents to "don a yellow jacket and go outside" was a two-fingers at nodding dog Tory MPs complaining the Speaker's given them another vote on Brexit. They'e supposed to want a sovereign Parliament!

— Kevin Maguire (@Kevin_Maguire) January 9, 2019

Government-minded MPs and pundits

Davis misleads MPs on sector analyses?
- shrug

First government to be held in contempt?
- shrug

Prolonging session over two years? Ignoring Opposition motions?
- shrug

Speaker allowing MPs to amend government motion?
- Constitutional Outrage!

— David Allen Green (@davidallengreen) January 9, 2019

Well Government defeated again - second time in two days - on Grieve amendment now shortening time to 3 days for PM to return if she loses next week...

Ayes. 308 297 Noes.

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) January 9, 2019


👀👀👀

gyac, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:27 (seven years ago)

BOOM.
Government defeated over Grieve amendment by 308 to 297.
If Theresa May loses the Brexit vote on Tuesday, she has until Monday January 21 to produce a plan B.

— Henry Mance (@henrymance) January 9, 2019

gyac, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:29 (seven years ago)

It's just going to be defeat after defeat from here on isn't it?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:15 (seven years ago)

one can but hope

tacticool spank bank material (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:15 (seven years ago)

🚨 Govt source warns that any Tory MP who sides with Labour in a confidence vote to stop no deal would immediately have the whip withdrawn and be deselected as a Conservative candidate at the next election. “They would be voting to end their career" https://t.co/JjGothr1i8

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) January 9, 2019

gyac, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:12 (seven years ago)

John Bercow denies a Tory MP's claim that he has an anti-Brexit sticker in his car, saying the vehicle belongs to his wife.

The Speaker came under attack from Brexit-supporting MPs after allowing a vote on an amendment to the government's EU withdrawal bill. #79DaysToBrexit pic.twitter.com/lMsOgs0rp2

— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) January 9, 2019

^ Bercow def relishing it a bit too much? Not that it matters but it looks like scores are being settled too.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:18 (seven years ago)

That whole exchange is basically chattering away while this fucking island burns tho'.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:21 (seven years ago)

remember the mace is ceremonial right up until someone plants it in someone else's skull WHICH IS WHAT IT'S THERE FOR

mark s, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:22 (seven years ago)

island? sure isnt that the problem

topical mlady (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:24 (seven years ago)

Govt source warns that any Tory MP who sides with Labour in a confidence vote to stop no deal...

OK, now I'm really lost. Why does there need to be a confidence vote to stop no deal? Also sounds like a pretty empty threat. Or it's Guidoesque BS from Wickham trying to get his buzzfeed career going.

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:29 (seven years ago)

No one's going to deselect Ken Clarke for a start.

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:33 (seven years ago)

Looks like they’re going to try and no conf Bercow. So it comes down to who actually commands a majority in the house: May or Bercow. I suspect Bercow will win it.

stet, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:43 (seven years ago)

2019 starts delivering, biggest worry is whether no deal will stop popcorn coming in

I can't dérive fifty-feev (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:46 (seven years ago)

What a waste of fucking time (xp)

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:47 (seven years ago)

Bush good (if sloppily edited) as ever on this: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2019/01/what-does-john-bercows-unprecedented-action-mean-brexit-and-him

Suspect we’ve become so used to govts with working (or worse, whopping) majorities that we act as if the exec has more powers than it actually does.

FTPA could make the truth of the situation starker, with parliament repeatedly owning near-zombie executives it can’t quite expel.

stet, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:48 (seven years ago)

The spokesman said in relation to “the motion that would follow from the Grieve amendment, there would only be 90 minutes of debate on the motion is our understanding and only one amendment could be selected. We anticipate," the spokesman added, "that amendment to comprise a simple declaration that it is remainers who are, in fact, the ball-lickers."

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 January 2019 13:14 (seven years ago)

just listening to a report on the Seaborne Ferries embarrassment, this thing is not going away and Grayling could be in shit over breaking procurement procedure rules.

calzino, Thursday, 10 January 2019 13:32 (seven years ago)

Owned by May yesterday and by Gove today.

Environment secretary Michael Gove had this blunt assessment of Labour's official Brexit position during the second debate on Theresa May's deal pic.twitter.com/vYwIZl44mz

— ITV News (@itvnews) January 10, 2019

Add in Richard Burgon self-owning on Today this morning and Corbz asking TM to call for a GE rather than him and it's not been a happy couple of days for Labour.

Oh and there's this, which probably wasn't the result hoped for:

I keep hearing from FBPE people that Yvette Cooper should be Labour leader. But I don't know a single person who would vote for her. To show the #FBPE gang how wrong they are, please vote in my poll.

Who do you want as Labour leader?

Retweet for good sample size

— Colin #GTTO (@ColinCorbynista) January 9, 2019

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:13 (seven years ago)

(72% for Cooper)

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:14 (seven years ago)

I mean there’s significant evidence about YC’s electoral appeal as Labour leader, but all twitter polls are a joke. The next leader will be from the left. (Pidcock pls)

gyac, Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:16 (seven years ago)

Corbz asking TM to call for a GE rather than him

This is how the fixed term parliament act works lol

gyac, Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:18 (seven years ago)

noted former ILXor Pipecock for PM IMO

Neil S, Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:19 (seven years ago)

I always try and knack these stupid twitter polls by voting the Tories or May.

calzino, Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:20 (seven years ago)

This is how the fixed term parliament act works lol

I'll rephrase, rather than him going down the No Confidence route (which he still says he'll do if/when he thinks he can win).

There's nothing wrong with keeping your powder dry until the right time imo, but if you're going to go hard on "the House can't have any confidence in a party that can't pass its own motions" then you need to act on it. All his rhetoric suggests Tuesday is the right time. I bet it won't be.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:27 (seven years ago)


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