one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol)

Ok it’s in the app now. 20 Tories rebelled, the DUP voted with the government but it looks like there was a lot of pairing/abstentions on both sides. 3 Labour MPs voted with the government (Ronnie Campbell, Kate Hoey, Graham Stringer).

Also it's becoming increasingly obvious that, whatever they've been saying, the EU will have the reopen negotiations - they won't accept No Deal as a result because of the Irish border. I think an A50 extension is becoming the most likely option here.

I'm trying to tune out a lot of the pointless noise around Brexit right now but Yvette Cooper's anti-No Deal amendment looks like it has a decent chance of passing, right?

Also unless I'm mistaken the mechanism would actually prevent even an accidental/clownish No Deal? It seems to be built into the wording of the amendment and could actually work as its part of the finance bill?

not “why u” - “why i” - typo shit-stirring!

oh wait i had misunderstood - it’s to prevent what would be necessary alterations to the tax code on exiting the EU. required no matter what but in theory to be withheld in the event of no deal. doesn’t seem enormously reassuring.

Again with no response from me to the latest resurfacing of this article, it could make it seem like I am a tory supporter which I want to make clear I am not.

oh dear, this lot have even driven Kate Bush to put out a statement denying she is a tory.

Cumberbatch's Depiction of a Tortured Genius

There is definitely a role as a Bond villain lurking in his future.

he already played Assange

Dr No One-note

bigoted twat from The Press (horrible right-wing heavy woolen district free rag that tries to stoke up racial tension for fun) is why I stopped watching Newsnight tonight.

& when Maitlis said to him that a few female MPs had refused to take part because he was on he said "really? can I have their names and addresses?"...

this summer local drug dealers apparently ran a circus out of town because they'd pitched their tent on their smack dealing turf. I thought that was quite amusing tbh. The Press ran this totally inflammatory front page about "Asian Gangs" when the truth was much less sinister. I've literally walked through this park hundreds of times and never seen a gang once. The odd drug dealer maybe but wgaf! It's a pure vile rag.

Barry Gardiner states on Today that a No Confidence vote will be proposed directly if the vote on the WA is lost on Tuesday.

An hour later he issues a retraction and says that is a personal opinion and not party policy.

he's such a smooth operator.

I noticed that YouGov have done Corbyn a solid by polling his policies abroad and they are very popular throughout the Eurozone and the USA.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwdMajpXQAAHVLB.jpg

good luck usa

All of those policies are popular here as well, the only one that tanks is the nuclear weapons thing which, amazingly, tanks in other post-imperial countries as well.

the faded colonial powers still doing a good job of brainwashing their citizens.

Forgot to post yesterday that Kwasi Kwarteng made the point on Today that the MPs saying No Deal must be stopped "at all costs" do currently have a mechanism for stopping No Deal which is to vote for the WA. So they don't actually mean "at all costs" - hence the drive from people like Stephen Barclay this morning pushing the "can't just say what you don't want, you have to accompany it with what you do want" line.

lol

NEW

John Bercow being advised by the clerks of the House that Grieve amendment should not be touched.

That doesn't mean he won't select it - this is John Bercow after all.

But if he does so he will be going against the finest minds on parliamentary procedure in the Commons.

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 9, 2019

We are now in full-fledged constitutional crisis territory.

Bercow has accepted the Grieve amendment which *his own clerks* say is against the standing orders of the House.

This is going to be carnage.

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 9, 2019

One ERG MP suggests he and his colleagues could protest by referring to John Bercow as "Mr Remainer" rather than "Mr Speaker" in the Commons...

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) January 9, 2019

New:

John Bercow's spokeswoman confirms that the Grieve amendment has been selected.

I'm told separately that Bercow held a meeting about it this morning with Sir David Natzler, the Clerk of the Commons, who advised him against selecting it.

Bercow did not agree.

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 9, 2019

First pmqs of the year in ten minutes!

pmqsl

*grabs imaginary ceremonial mace and shakes it vigorously*

*with one hand*

That was absolutely dreadful.

Aye, running in circles here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-parliaments-46784460?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5c35edbfacf4090677168e30%26PM%20%27still%20can%27t%20find%20her%20withdrawal%20agreement%27%20-%20Labour%262019-01-09T12%3A53%3A25.892Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:5d2dbdbd-2ceb-4e6d-9d78-926bc23e0dce&pinned_post_asset_id=5c35edbfacf4090677168e30&pinned_post_type=share

Appallingly bad shoehorned pun/question from Meg Hillier.

BBC share facility seems not to work.

Labour MP Meg Hillier says the prime minister has had "20 dancing rebels, promised five golden trade agreements and has had one big defeat" yet she "still can't find her withdrawal agreement".

She asks if Theresa May has checked her pear tree.

Theresa May says "it was a good attempt but Christmas happened a few weeks ago".

narrator: it wasn't a good attempt

Audience: "Oh no it Wasn't!!"

Bercow defending his decision to the teeth, annoying brexiteers.

Bercow says the business motion said no motion could be moved other than by a minister of the crown. But we are not talking about a motion, he says; we are talking about an amendment.

There is loud jeering in the chamber soon. Very loudly, someone said: “Sorry, that is absolute [word indistinct.]

> BBC share facility seems not to work.

link goes to the right place (for me), but that place isn't one that ilx knows how to expand so it just appears as a link.

That makes sense.

Unlike the politics du jour, amirite?

I'm quite certain there's something wrong with me, but I'm thoroughly enjoying this.

Clearly John Bercow is relishing confrontation with government and Tory critics. The smile on his face shows he has been waiting and preparing for this moment, the most significant of his speakership and perhaps of any modern speakership

— Nicholas Watt (@nicholaswatt) January 9, 2019

Bercow denies having anti-Brexit sticker on his car - saying it's his wife's

Adam Holloway, a Conservative, says there is an anti-Brexit sticker on Bercow’s car. He says MPs have seen. This casts doubt on Bercow’s impartiality, he says.

Bercow says Holloway is wrong. That sticker is on his wife’s car, he says. And he says he is sure Holloway is not suggesting a wife is the property or chattel of her husband. A wife is entitled to her own views.

Some MPs applaud Bercow for this.

Imagine getting owned by Theresa May though?

I love the image of Tory MPs spotting this car and sending each other updates on this sticker in their myriad Whatsapp groups.

i love the elevated level of political discourse in the mother of parliaments

Ken Clarke telling John Bercow's opponents to "don a yellow jacket and go outside" was a two-fingers at nodding dog Tory MPs complaining the Speaker's given them another vote on Brexit. They'e supposed to want a sovereign Parliament!

— Kevin Maguire (@Kevin_Maguire) January 9, 2019

Government-minded MPs and pundits

Davis misleads MPs on sector analyses?
- shrug

First government to be held in contempt?
- shrug

Prolonging session over two years? Ignoring Opposition motions?
- shrug

Speaker allowing MPs to amend government motion?
- Constitutional Outrage!

— David Allen Green (@davidallengreen) January 9, 2019

Well Government defeated again - second time in two days - on Grieve amendment now shortening time to 3 days for PM to return if she loses next week...

Ayes. 308 297 Noes.

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) January 9, 2019

BOOM.
Government defeated over Grieve amendment by 308 to 297.
If Theresa May loses the Brexit vote on Tuesday, she has until Monday January 21 to produce a plan B.

— Henry Mance (@henrymance) January 9, 2019

It's just going to be defeat after defeat from here on isn't it?

one can but hope

🚨 Govt source warns that any Tory MP who sides with Labour in a confidence vote to stop no deal would immediately have the whip withdrawn and be deselected as a Conservative candidate at the next election. “They would be voting to end their career" https://t.co/JjGothr1i8

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) January 9, 2019

John Bercow denies a Tory MP's claim that he has an anti-Brexit sticker in his car, saying the vehicle belongs to his wife.

The Speaker came under attack from Brexit-supporting MPs after allowing a vote on an amendment to the government's EU withdrawal bill. #79DaysToBrexit pic.twitter.com/lMsOgs0rp2

— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) January 9, 2019

^ Bercow def relishing it a bit too much? Not that it matters but it looks like scores are being settled too.

That whole exchange is basically chattering away while this fucking island burns tho'.

remember the mace is ceremonial right up until someone plants it in someone else's skull WHICH IS WHAT IT'S THERE FOR

island? sure isnt that the problem

Govt source warns that any Tory MP who sides with Labour in a confidence vote to stop no deal...

OK, now I'm really lost. Why does there need to be a confidence vote to stop no deal? Also sounds like a pretty empty threat. Or it's Guidoesque BS from Wickham trying to get his buzzfeed career going.

No one's going to deselect Ken Clarke for a start.

Looks like they’re going to try and no conf Bercow. So it comes down to who actually commands a majority in the house: May or Bercow. I suspect Bercow will win it.

2019 starts delivering, biggest worry is whether no deal will stop popcorn coming in

What a waste of fucking time (xp)

Bush good (if sloppily edited) as ever on this: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2019/01/what-does-john-bercows-unprecedented-action-mean-brexit-and-him

Suspect we’ve become so used to govts with working (or worse, whopping) majorities that we act as if the exec has more powers than it actually does.

FTPA could make the truth of the situation starker, with parliament repeatedly owning near-zombie executives it can’t quite expel.