one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol)

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apparently the actress that plays spuggie now runs Hezbollahs social media bants

anvil, Monday, 7 January 2019 21:36 (seven years ago)

looking forward to the james graham play following the corbyn supermajority, with seumas milne in the cummings-esque “genius or arsehole why can’t he both ?” role

twitter is bad not good (||||||||), Monday, 7 January 2019 23:32 (seven years ago)

played by machinist-era christian bale

twitter is bad not good (||||||||), Monday, 7 January 2019 23:33 (seven years ago)

Hmmmm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btt6d7ykvVg

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 09:49 (seven years ago)

Ah, you all covered this last night, sorry!

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 09:50 (seven years ago)

I'm trying to tune out a lot of the pointless noise around Brexit right now but Yvette Cooper's anti-No Deal amendment looks like it has a decent chance of passing, right?

Also unless I'm mistaken the mechanism would actually prevent even an accidental/clownish No Deal? It seems to be built into the wording of the amendment and could actually work as its part of the finance bill?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 10:03 (seven years ago)

There's some doubt over exactly how much impact it would have: it could stop the government doing certain slightly academic things with taxes, not raising taxes entirely.

The govt may choose to try and ignore, is what I'm saying, and they could probably get away with it. Legally, not politically.

stet, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 10:16 (seven years ago)

They might secretly welcome it in that it would fuel their "risk of no Brexit at all" argument. I mean it all seems academic right now as there are probably enough Brexiters who genuinely would prefer no Brexit at all to May's deal.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 10:20 (seven years ago)

Benedict Cumberbatch to play the Gatwick drone.

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) January 8, 2019

lol, standard self-parodic Cumbertwat "cracked genius" performance of Cummings was v bad in that unwatchable shite.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:31 (seven years ago)

Tbh I think Cumbers doesn't quite have the range to play a drone.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:35 (seven years ago)

They might secretly welcome it in that it would fuel their "risk of no Brexit at all" argument. I mean it all seems academic right now as there are probably enough Brexiters who genuinely would prefer no Brexit at all to May's deal.


Is this why May refuses to rule out No Deal, I wonder? Because if it was No Brexit or May Deal, No Brexit might win and so May wouldn’t be able to die happy knowing she had Respected The Result.

Because if you don’t think No Brexit has a majority in the house, that’s surely the way to get the May deal through: rule out all other Brexits. (She is now immune for 12 months from any other leader coming up with an alternative non-racist Brexit, after all.)

stet, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:43 (seven years ago)

Also it's becoming increasingly obvious that, whatever they've been saying, the EU will have the reopen negotiations - they won't accept No Deal as a result because of the Irish border. I think an A50 extension is becoming the most likely option here.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:48 (seven years ago)

Yes - one Q is how far the EU will push their leverage in granting an extension. They could do their own brinksmanship and ask for some concrete milestones/break points for example

stet, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:53 (seven years ago)

Crumblesnitch is simply a very bad actor, shooting fish in a barrel to single out particular performances.

Master Humphrey's Cock (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:10 (seven years ago)

... but his drippy constantly on the verge of tears performance in Parade's End particularly cracked me up

Master Humphrey's Cock (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:11 (seven years ago)

extremely good take alert

The N-word is outlawed (except to describe Brexiteers) - Laura Perrins https://t.co/XWkfZpM6Dj pic.twitter.com/yaspSR27Kv

— The Conservative Woman (@TheConWom) January 8, 2019

an erotic picnic with Ming (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 13:15 (seven years ago)

it is false and defamatory to state that with julian assange cumberbatch failed to deliver the greatest performance in thespian history of the life and times of the greatest human in undoubtedly-and-definitely-always-washing-your-hands-after-peeing history

mark s, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 13:39 (seven years ago)

Are we really talking bad Cumberbatch performances and somehow nobody has said August: Osage County? Or have we all agreed never to speak about that again?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 13:46 (seven years ago)

it is false and defamatory to state that i have watched any of these films or ever plan to

mark s, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 13:53 (seven years ago)

We don't need a film of something we've lived ffs! Now lets get back to *checks notes* A Game of Thrones.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 14:07 (seven years ago)

Cumberbatch's Depiction of a Tortured Genius

About 261,000 results (0.39 seconds)

I can't wait to see his Barry Chuckle biopic.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 14:08 (seven years ago)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/investing/brexit-banks-moving-assets/index.html

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 15:15 (seven years ago)

yikes

Banks and other financial companies have shifted at least £800 billion ($1 trillion) worth of assets out of the country and into the European Union because of Brexit, EY said in a report published Monday.

Many banks have set up new offices elsewhere in the European Union to safeguard their regional operations after Brexit, which means they also have to move substantial assets there to satisfy EU regulators. Other firms are moving assets to protect clients against market volatility and sudden changes in regulation.

The consultancy said the figure represented roughly 10% of the total assets of the UK banking sector, and was a "conservative estimate" because some banks have not yet revealed their contingency plans.

tacticool spank bank material (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 15:23 (seven years ago)

i think this story is a little misleading if we think what a bank's assets actually are = not giant physical piles of cash in a hole in the ground plus all the pens on chains but e.g. the capacity to lend money bcz of deposits, so a good part of this $1 trillion is the accounting fiction of where the deposit wd be housed if it had not largely been lent out?

mark s, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 15:48 (seven years ago)

i mean obviously this wd mean more cross-border bureaucracy (which is a cost) plus, plus tariffs maybe, rates that outsiders to the EU have no control over, so a forest of expensive nonsense but "where money actually rests physically" in a linked-up electronic economy is generally a bit of a distraction

mark s, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 15:53 (seven years ago)

https://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/2019/01/the-death-of-right-libertarianism.html

This is good and feels timely giving the City stuff.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:08 (seven years ago)

at least you know what is going on when someone makes jams & preserves, these bloody nebulous financial services peoples don't even let their right hand know what their left hand is doing :p

calzino, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:08 (seven years ago)

MPs have backed measures designed to thwart preparations for a no-deal Brexit, by defeating the government in the House of Commons.

They backed an amendment to the Finance Bill, which would limit spending on no-deal preparations unless authorised by Parliament, by 303 to 296 votes.

A number of Tory MPs are thought to have rebelled

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:05 (seven years ago)

“Thought?” Are individual votes not recorded?

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:07 (seven years ago)

They are, but they announce the numbers in the commons and there’s a lag for the voting info to be recorded.

https://commonsvotes.digiminster.com/Divisions/Download?divisionId=556 It’s not in the app yet but here’s the breakdown

gyac, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:16 (seven years ago)

read that as commonsvotes.digimonotis.com

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:18 (seven years ago)

Ok it’s in the app now. 20 Tories rebelled, the DUP voted with the government but it looks like there was a lot of pairing/abstentions on both sides. 3 Labour MPs voted with the government (Ronnie Campbell, Kate Hoey, Graham Stringer).

gyac, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:22 (seven years ago)

Also it's becoming increasingly obvious that, whatever they've been saying, the EU will have the reopen negotiations - they won't accept No Deal as a result because of the Irish border. I think an A50 extension is becoming the most likely option here.


for what tho? short of a GE or a 2nd ref (and how do we get there?) it’s difficult to see what extending it does to resolve the parliamentary impasse.

another thing i’m confused on:

I'm trying to tune out a lot of the pointless noise around Brexit right now but Yvette Cooper's anti-No Deal amendment looks like it has a decent chance of passing, right?

Also unless I'm mistaken the mechanism would actually prevent even an accidental/clownish No Deal? It seems to be built into the wording of the amendment and could actually work as its part of the finance bill?


similar on the noise, which is perhaps why u haven’t grasped some of th basics here, but afaict this amendment requires a parliamentary vote before further spending on no deal scenarios. (presumably such as grayling’s farcical potemkin truck jam) I’m not clear how this prevents no deal. If it’s purely to show anti-no-deal muscle, then the coalition of interests seems too broad to be able to propose a single alternative.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:41 (seven years ago)

not “why u” - “why i” - typo shit-stirring!

Fizzles, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:42 (seven years ago)

oh wait i had misunderstood - it’s to prevent what would be necessary alterations to the tax code on exiting the EU. required no matter what but in theory to be withheld in the event of no deal. doesn’t seem enormously reassuring.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:46 (seven years ago)

Again with no response from me to the latest resurfacing of this article, it could make it seem like I am a tory supporter which I want to make clear I am not.

oh dear, this lot have even driven Kate Bush to put out a statement denying she is a tory.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:23 (seven years ago)

Cumberbatch's Depiction of a Tortured Genius

There is definitely a role as a Bond villain lurking in his future.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:26 (seven years ago)

he already played Assange

Number None, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:31 (seven years ago)

Dr No One-note

calzino, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:33 (seven years ago)

bigoted twat from The Press (horrible right-wing heavy woolen district free rag that tries to stoke up racial tension for fun) is why I stopped watching Newsnight tonight.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:58 (seven years ago)

& when Maitlis said to him that a few female MPs had refused to take part because he was on he said "really? can I have their names and addresses?"...

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:02 (seven years ago)

this summer local drug dealers apparently ran a circus out of town because they'd pitched their tent on their smack dealing turf. I thought that was quite amusing tbh. The Press ran this totally inflammatory front page about "Asian Gangs" when the truth was much less sinister. I've literally walked through this park hundreds of times and never seen a gang once. The odd drug dealer maybe but wgaf! It's a pure vile rag.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:14 (seven years ago)

Barry Gardiner states on Today that a No Confidence vote will be proposed directly if the vote on the WA is lost on Tuesday.

An hour later he issues a retraction and says that is a personal opinion and not party policy.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 08:41 (seven years ago)

he's such a smooth operator.

I noticed that YouGov have done Corbyn a solid by polling his policies abroad and they are very popular throughout the Eurozone and the USA.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:31 (seven years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwdMajpXQAAHVLB.jpg

calzino, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:32 (seven years ago)

good luck usa

tacticool spank bank material (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:36 (seven years ago)

All of those policies are popular here as well, the only one that tanks is the nuclear weapons thing which, amazingly, tanks in other post-imperial countries as well.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:40 (seven years ago)

the faded colonial powers still doing a good job of brainwashing their citizens.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:47 (seven years ago)

Forgot to post yesterday that Kwasi Kwarteng made the point on Today that the MPs saying No Deal must be stopped "at all costs" do currently have a mechanism for stopping No Deal which is to vote for the WA. So they don't actually mean "at all costs" - hence the drive from people like Stephen Barclay this morning pushing the "can't just say what you don't want, you have to accompany it with what you do want" line.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 10:24 (seven years ago)

lol

NEW

John Bercow being advised by the clerks of the House that Grieve amendment should not be touched.

That doesn't mean he won't select it - this is John Bercow after all.

But if he does so he will be going against the finest minds on parliamentary procedure in the Commons.

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 9, 2019

We are now in full-fledged constitutional crisis territory.

Bercow has accepted the Grieve amendment which *his own clerks* say is against the standing orders of the House.

This is going to be carnage.

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 9, 2019

One ERG MP suggests he and his colleagues could protest by referring to John Bercow as "Mr Remainer" rather than "Mr Speaker" in the Commons...

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) January 9, 2019

New:

John Bercow's spokeswoman confirms that the Grieve amendment has been selected.

I'm told separately that Bercow held a meeting about it this morning with Sir David Natzler, the Clerk of the Commons, who advised him against selecting it.

Bercow did not agree.

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) January 9, 2019

First pmqs of the year in ten minutes!

gyac, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 11:48 (seven years ago)


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