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Well I can just about stand it when Audrey Hepburn sings it, as it's an insight into Holly's always running attitude. But the string and choir heavy version that plays over the final scene is terrible.
― Cheggers Plays Populous (snoball), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
Some other versions I've heard are cool
― FP Sorrow (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
"Moon River" is easily the best thing abt the BTF film
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 April 2012 02:29 (twelve years ago) link
youtube clip of Nelson from the Simpsons, teary-eyed, watching Andy Williams' do an encore of Moon River in Branson, MO while en route to Tennessee with Bart and Milhouse in a rental car to thread!
― Aimless, Monday, 23 April 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
Richard Brody vs Glenn Kenny on the casting of Hepburn.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
Interesting comment in there by, surprise, David E:
Carol Matthau (a woman who REALLY knew where all the bodies were buried) said Holly was a mash-up betwen her and truman himself. She was right.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
i love that line from (i think) wilson's onegin review, but it's how i feel about literally all of my friends. doesn't everyone?
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
Nabokov is always called the "winner" in their spat – why, because he was a better "stylist" and dickhead than Bunny?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
well at least he spoke russian.
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
is there a word for "courtesy" in Russian
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
Never really did get into this movie much. Even the cat edit is sort of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
"poshlust" xp
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
i hated this movie when i saw it but i was like 15.
Kenny's right inasmuch as Hepburn makes the transformation from po' white trash to Manhattan socialite credible but I've a problem generally with how Hepburn looks encouraged by Edwards to act more sophisticated and daaahling than she is. It's a cloying performance.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
Don't think Hepburn ever needed any extra coaxing to act sophisticated and daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahling.
― old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
(That's what undoes her otherwise good Wait Until Dark performance.)
Holly is 19 in the book, which is why Capote said circa 1980 that Jodie Foster would be great.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
What mostly undoes her WUD work is how she's encouraged to act stupider than she is.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
And blinder.
― old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
why couldn't Efrem Zimbalist Jr. have a fridge fall on him
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
Still, better Henri Mancini music than B@T's.
― old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
On a very highbrow note, the Seinfeld episode where George cheats on his book club was on yesterday. "So--are we still talking, or are we watching the movie?"
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
i am reminded of robert crumb's angry letter to ivan brunetti in schizo: 'i HATE audrey hepburn and all her ilk!!!'
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's mentioned that Holly or "Lula" was 14 when she got married - that implies that she might have been running away from a genuinely awful situation and not just some kindly old dolt who she doesn't love.― Hurting 2, Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:24 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
In the book, Doc says that Holly and her brother were orphaned and fending for themselves when he took them in, and Holly claims her sexual history before she married Doc (at age 14) "doesn't count," so yes, Holly was coming from a very rough background.
Officially I don't believe in the concept of the "guilty pleasure." But the BoT film is such a glossy-gorgeous shell around such a grotty story, that I hate to see it held up as a fashion or lifestyle icon.
― i like slash and i vote (j.lu), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
nah -- I wish more women used cigarette holders and named their cats Cat.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
Don't forget about her earplug/rings!
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
It's a heartwarming story of manipulative urban whores with some touching old-style racism for leavening. Cat was hot tho, despite being left out in the rain.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
did y'all know that this film was originally john frankenheimer and george axelrod's baby? then the studio hired audrey hepburn and she wanted frankenheimer off the project.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
i think f. maybe wanted kim stanley to star.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
kinda wish we'd all stop talking about the "racism"
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
The Mickey Rooney character is egregious!
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
Patricia Neal is kind of lovely in this, though.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
misread that as Patrice O'Neal at first and lol
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno. The film is fraught in more interesting ways than Mickey Rooney's textbook caricature..
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
Holly is definitely more louche in the novella - it kind of reminds me of whom Cole Porter wished to play him in a film bio ('Night and Day'); Cary Grant.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
but Cary Grant COULD have played him a better film! I mean, Cary Grant is the distillation of every Cole Porter song character.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
It was a hit too
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
I like my demi-mondaines a little real and cruffy around the edges or I like them like Zola's Nana, entirely too OTT.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
i reread the novella a couple years ago and was amazed how dislikeable holly was! which of course is the point -- in real life, ppl like holly are impossible to be friends with.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
the film kind of gets that across a little maybe?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
It does if you look past Hepburn's natural charm. I like her so much better in 'Roman Holiday'.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
It just occurred to me that José Luis de Vilallonga is in both "Breakfast at Tiffany's' and 'Darling' - interesting comparing the two.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:46 (twelve years ago) link
Having been to Rome a few times over the past 2 years, we watched RHol recently.
The scene where they're driving crazy through town on scooters, I keep expecting them to crash into all the market barrows selling Audrey Hepburn souvenirs!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
so there's a stage adap opening on Broadway in March; faithful to Capote, ie, set during WW2 and presumably FRED IS GAY.
http://www.playbill.com/news/article/173395-Broadways-Breakfast-at-Tiffanys-Goes-on-Sale-to-General-Public-Dec-24
gonna disappoint a lotta Audrey-lovin' tourists
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link