US Politics December 2018: ~very legal and very cool~

I remember an interview with Ace of Base from all those years ago, about the origin of their name, and one of the dummies said that the studio was their base and they are aces of the studio.

If they have that moron on his own I don’t like this

he better be in there telling them this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-iVPZOfD_g

what could they possibly promise Schumer that would make his caucus change their minds at the last minute

xp

If they mention his imaginary family we’re done for

If the Republicans in Congress distance themselves from Trump, it will be very cautiously. It would require some very damning and unmistakable evidence of serious crimes to cause any mass stampede away from him. So far, the campaign finance felonies he committed are the worst openly-proved crimes and they won't shake the party loose from him.

Remember, Nixon and Reagan committed actual treason, Nixon by opening personal negotiations with North Vietnam during the Paris peace talks, and Reagan by negotiating with Iran during the hostage crisis, and both are still lionized by the GOP.

The fact that they’re visiting when the procedural vote is still open and they haven’t even got to the nut cutting vote is good news I guess, but the fact that Schumer is involved is not

Schumer's gonna go where his caucus is, and the Dem caucus has what - zero yea votes for this?

I mean, maybe Manchin or Donnelly or something but why would they stick their necks out at this particular point

point being you just can't trust these fuckers

this shit with Schumer is not a good sign, again. I'll be glad when this particular nailbiter is over and I can go back to worrying about NK or whatever

Schumer should be smart enough to know he can't commit to anything without the approval of his caucus, because he only has one vote on the floor and senators don't like to get whipped for a deal they had no hand in.

yeah I think you guys are worrying over nothing

Maybe but I keep coming back to this

This, from a couple of days ago, is the best look at Chuck Schumer's brain I've yet read. I think people missed it because of the midterms. https://t.co/RZw3iHBSEZ pic.twitter.com/9eErb2tN1p

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) November 7, 2018

We're a couple of years into the worst president ever, who despite his best efforts has still managed to achieve plenty that has set the US back decades, I think there's always reason to worry.

Are they going to put DACA on the table? Depending on the details that might possibly be worth a few billion for a wall project that will be abandoned as soon as Trump disappears.

It's the Friday before a holiday weekend, y'all. You should be planning drinks after work!

That's grist for this thread.

or drinking at work! which i'm about to

I had a beer with lunch just now, does that count?

Schumer's an idiot but he literally doesn't have the votes to deliver to McConnell even if he wanted to. There are not 9 Dem Senators that will vote for the wall, and there's no time to negotiate some kind of other totally new deal/bill that would ostensibly flip votes.

I had a beer with lunch just now, does that count?

― Ned Raggett,

Sazerac for me!

here we go

Deal to avert shutdown after Schumer huddle with Trump admin?

“I feel the earth moving. I’m feeling better now than I did an hour ago because that meeting occurred,” said Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn of Texas.

— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) December 21, 2018

Jared saves the day!

Schumer, Flake and Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) could be seen chatting on the Senate floor, trying to work something out. Some Republicans said it was up to Schumer to negotiate directly with Trump and get buy-in from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) as well as the hard-line House Freedom Caucus, which caused the rebellion against a clean spending bill in the first place.

Vice President Mike Pence, acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and White House adviser Jared Kushner arrived at the Capitol at 3:30 p.m. and walked into Schumer’s office.

Democrats say they will provide $1.3 billion in funding for fencing, though Republicans believe they might be able to convince Schumer to go up to as much as $1.6 billion, the bipartisan number originally negotiated in the Senate. House Democrats have, so far, rejected that.

Senate spending chief Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), said he directly asked Trump to reconsider the $1.6 billion funding deal in the Thursday afternoon sit down with McConnell and Trump.

“We never reached a number, but the president said to us, he doesn’t want to shut down the government,” Shelby said. He added that Schumer was consulting with Pelosi.

After a GOP lunch on Friday, Republicans said that in a private meeting with senators, Trump took a hard-line but did not give a specific number on what amount of border wall funding might satisfy him.

"I don’t believe a strong sense came out of the meeting," said Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.). “Mostly a nuclear option and shutdown is acceptable to him, would be the two takeaway points, I think. And the wall matters and will be beautiful when built."

idgaf about $1.6 billion for fencing if that's what it ends up being

Everyone just wants to go home. Fencing probably happens.

So, it looks like this could end up at 1.6 for border security. Which is ..... exactly where it started.

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) December 21, 2018

i guess flake and corker were ready to vote it down, so we're back here, and trump gets to go to florida tonight

is Blunt doing indirect quotation there or

the wall matters and will be beautiful when built

what song is that from ?

these would have to be reconciled, right? but I guess the idea being the House will re-pass it and then the Pres will sign it with a shit-taking smirk....

Money for that wall is setting that money on fire. Is the KLF filming?

if the Senate passes a $1.6B for fencing bill yeah it will go to the House for an up or down vote

Flake is pushing a deal that would reauthorize the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program in exchange for border-wall funding.

Flake voted against a motion to proceed to the House-passed stopgap because Democrats have vowed to defeat it and he wants to find a resolution sooner instead of later.

“I don’t see any reason to proceed to a bill that can’t pass,” said Flake told reporters after meeting with GOP colleagues on how to proceed.

He said he wants to “find a bill that can pass.”

“I think one that could — if we’re going to reopen this thing to add more money for a wall or steel slats, or whatever you want to call it, then throw DACA in too,” Flake said, adding that several colleagues support his position.

lol when are they going to write this bill, tonight?

gotta love how they're just rehashing previously rejected ideas at the last minute as if that's genius deal-making or something

I can't see re-authorizing DACA passing the House, frankly

Freedom Caucus *hates* that shit

interesting that they have Schumer in touch with Pelosi but nobody mentions talking to Ryan lol

Yeah. Unless DACA reinstatement is in the same bill as the wall funding and Trump must sign them together, I wouldn't accept any promise Trump makes about his future actions. He lies.

Corker says Schumer and McConnell struck an agreement with him and Flake. He then met with Pence and Kushner and Mulvaney to get sign off. Schumer and McConnell will announce on floor within 30 minutes he says

— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) December 21, 2018

the agreement is for the funding measure bill to be a giant photocopy of Schumer's ass

Corker cautioned that it’s an agreement on process only, but expressed hope it could ultimately lead to a deal to avoid a partial government shutdown set to begin at the end of the day Friday.

McConnell and Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) are expected to enter into the agreement on the Senate floor.
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“This is will be an agreement between McConnell and Schumer about what next happens on the Senate floor. You’ll see them to enter into a little discussion,” Corker said. “It charts the course forward that gives us the best chance of actually coming to a solution.”

the "fence" IS the wall, not sure why y'all are shrugging it off, gonna have hugely negative local impacts whether it's 1.6B or 5B.

so glad they're working out Senate processes at the last minute lol

"process only" = there's no bill, no one's talked to the House GOP leadership, and Schumer didn't commit any votes for passage of non-existent bill?

the "fence" IS the wall,

not exactly, iirc the $1.6 billion was to repair existing fencing, not construct anything new

yeah they didn't say 1.6 billion for artisanal steel slats

xp ah, thanks, that is a genuine relief.

I can't figure out what the hell is going on and I don't think the legislators know either as you point out

are the tax returns stapled to the artisanal steel slats with the Camebert and elk foie gras

they are covered in ketchup from McD's packets

maybe they're just going to slap DACA reinstatement onto the House bill and see what votes that gets in the Senate.

whether that would pass the House once it's passed back seems like a bit of a gamble. If I was Pelosi I wouldn't take that deal, but really it would be up to the Freedom Caucus I suppose

yeah who knows what's happening

Kasie Hunt of MSNBC just acknowledge that Democrats have all the cards.

btw RBG voted from her hospital bed to fuck Trump over today

We're back to the original $1.6 billion offer.