my mum enthusiastically showed the first episode of this to me a few months ago. gotta say I wasn't feeling it
― imago, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link
I dont think morbz will like this at all.
Also I think its depiction of NYC environs is v heavily stylized and artificial-looking, v much like a stage musical
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
(The latter point is not really a criticism, but this show isnt going for the versimilitude/attention to period detail that Mad Men was. This show is way more comically exaggerated than realistic).
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
the NYT review of season 2 said it was like a contemporary idea of how a '50s movie would show the '50s.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
yeah it’s a very, very handsomely produced show but ‘stylized and artificial-looking’ is otm
― fans annoyed as emily atack screams over nick knowles' kumquat (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
It operates in the same realm of heightened/embellished reality style that something like Desperate Housewives did. Real-ish.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link
Or, tbh, Gilmore Girls and Bunheads.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
I like the artificial lookingness of it. I literally got distracted by a green glass that Suzie pulled out of a kitchen cabinet one episode. Sooooo pretty.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
I kind of think morbs will like it well enough.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
the stage deli is a set, right? it looks amazing
― fans annoyed as emily atack screams over nick knowles' kumquat (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
they had a pop up Carnegie deli in NYC for the season 2 premiere http://gothamist.com/2018/12/03/photos_mrs_maisels_carnegie_deli_soho.php#photo-1
― Yerac, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
It says the Stage deli was Artie’s Delicatessen and is closed and now used as a set.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
oh wow, cooli was also very taken with the kitchen in midge and joel’s apartment
― fans annoyed as emily atack screams over nick knowles' kumquat (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
midge isn't hysterical but the person who really isn't funny, and whose bits I think are based on real bits, is Lenny Bruce. not funny. dn't get it. borders on terrible. I remember now that Patton Oswald got some stick for writing an essay about how Bruce was never funny.
― akm, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link
yeah Patton Oswalt has heard every fucking Bruce monologue
you dont think anyone is gonna laugh at Wet Hot American Summer in 2050, do ya
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link
maybe you could actually listen to Lenny Bruce, akm, to find out if he was funny
a radical idea i know
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link
People are still laughing at Wheeler & Woolsey in 2018. Or, person is, at any rate.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
no, their mediocrity is what's fascinating
kinda like KC and the Sunshine Band
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link
anyway the mark of a great oldschool comic is the material only works when he/she does it (Groucho, Hope, Lewis, Gracie etc)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link
Looking forward to you watching Mrs. Maisel Morbs!!
― No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
FInally on the Catskills episodes. So much to look at.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link
I do generally like the use of music in this, the way the jazz-pop of the day is emphasized. but man they are really getting a lot of mileage out of Blossom Dearie's catalog lol.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
The end-of-episode songs are usually well-chosen, but one was utterly baffling (unless someone can explain how "Cities In Dust" relates to Midge being irritated at Susie for threatening Sophie Lennon).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link
Feel like the big surprise for Midge in final episode is very implausible
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
The end-of-episode songs are usually well-chosen
that's true, although I found the XTC one a little surprising
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link
Transvision Vamp!
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link
I remember there was great use of XTC in Gilmore Girls.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
Oswalt spent the entire first half of that essay saying this, and exactly none of it saying that Bruce was never funny
― sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
Saved up the last 4 episodes to watch last night. I was wondering aloud if Shy Baldwin was supposed to be Johnny Mathis and won a huge bet with my spouse who didn't realize Johnny Mathis is black.
I love this show so much. Although I am so blech about why Joel gets so much screentime.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
Also I had the Odyssey and Oracle cd stuck in my car's cd player for over a year once so was delighted with the end song for the season.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
this show is bad i think. i may just struggle with every non-gg and bunheads sherman-palladino thing but the writing and characterization are wildly uneven, and the acting even lost me when alex borstein attempted a classic gg-esque yelling speech toward the end of the first season. the show is pretty and has good music however
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I’m tapping out
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
S2 jettisons all bearings to reality and becomes a weird fantasy melodramedy
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
I just had to look up the actor who plays Joel because I feel like he was miscast. He played Randall on Walking Dead lol!
― Yerac, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link
You say that like it's a bad thing.
xp
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
really don't see the major distinction between season 1 and 2 you all are calling out.
― akm, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link
John Pod (who loves the show) was spot on about this: "The most potent form of nostalgia is for a time you never knew in a place you do and imagine was at its peak before you came along".
― Yerac, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link
Idk if there’s that clear a division as much as an accumulation of factors that become tiresome
Xp
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link
I took this show to be, as someone described upthread, a musical without the music basically. Very choreographed and stage-set. shit, the moving into the catskills cottage scene was straight out of a Wes Anderson film.
I liked it a lot, but I also had some issues with the blatant weath and Midge's blatant ignorance of it in the face of her supposed friend's poverty that she *never fucking helped her out with*.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 23:31 (five years ago) link
Honestly, when she said she was waiting for her bags to brought up to their room from the lobby, I was hoping they'd gotten stolen.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 27 December 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link
Yeah that bit made me raise 3 eyebrows. I think I even muttered "how sheltered is this woman!?". But overall I loved the dialogue and movement and liveliness of the show.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 27 December 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link
Found season 2 much funnier and more interesting than the first one, more than I expected, aforementioned flaws aside. Οὖτις OTM re 'weird fantasy melodramedy' tho that's not necessarily a flaw.
― nashwan, Thursday, 27 December 2018 11:55 (five years ago) link
― H00kup with Jaundice Singles!! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 December 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link
It's kind of the same issues people had with Lorelai. For some weird reason I thought Midge was more 1950s middle class for NYC? Her parents don't even own that apartment.
― Yerac, Thursday, 27 December 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link
I literally have no clue because of all the hats and coats.
― Yerac, Thursday, 27 December 2018 12:23 (five years ago) link
it is hard for me to figure out how her parents afford any of htat stuff (apartment, housekeeper?) on a professor's salary but I assume things were absurdly different in the 50's than they are now.
― akm, Thursday, 27 December 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link
Tv made it seem like there were a lot of housekeepers.
― Yerac, Thursday, 27 December 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
I haven't watched this show but I enjoyed reading Emily Nussbaum's minority report on it.
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 27 December 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
Her list of less pretentious shows is odd (i've watched half of them, Ex GF, Glow, Younger, Broad City). But I agree that Joel is totally given a baffling amount of time.
― Yerac, Thursday, 27 December 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link
Nussbaum otm
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 December 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link