US Politics December 2018: ~very legal and very cool~

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nowwww what happened?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link

a lawyer close to the inaugural committee told the Journal, “We are not aware of any evidence the investigation the Journal is reporting actually exists.”

translation: we thought we got rid of all the evidence.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

so we're back to the heady days of Harding and Grant.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

As with W's people, all but the most abject will be reinstated, probably to manage climate-change refugee camps. Wait and see.

I initially misread this as referring to Cheney and Rumsfeld's reinstatement by W. You guys are clobbering Morbs for a bad example but the precedent exists. Is it that much of a stretch to imagine these scumbags (or the ones who don't get indicted) in a Tom Cotton administration in 2028? Seems more likely than not....

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link

uh W's people are all on MSNBC, beginning at 4 p.m. this afternoon.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link

yeoman's work

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link

NEW: Prosecutors have filed a reply re: Michael Flynn's sentencing and attached notes and redacted docs related to the Jan. 2017 interview where Flynn admitted lying to the FBI. The govt says Flynn was lying before he talked to the FBI https://t.co/nKtpzQ4Zlq pic.twitter.com/wd10Ohv1Ou

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) December 14, 2018

"The seriousness of the defendant’s offense cannot be called into question, and the Court should reject his attempt to minimize it." pic.twitter.com/agdfV15qCK

— Andrew deGrandpre (@adegrandpre) December 14, 2018

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

every time I read "very legal, very cool" I get "Love It If We Made It" stuck in my head again

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

xxxxpost yeah that's why this argument is so weird to me. Does anyone think Condoleeza Rice wouldn't be welcomed back into public office by the establishment press? Obama even kept on some of the Bush detritus like Gates and Petraeus.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link

y'all you are NOT going to believe this.....Trump....is becoming increasingly isolated!!!!

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-isolation-investigations-20181213-story.html

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

Rice hasn't been on MSNBC because she's back in Stanford instead of in irons.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

A challenger emerges.

It is true. I will be running for Congress in 2020, and I will win. Stay tuned.

— George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) December 14, 2018

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 December 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link

Webster must be so proud.

Home Despot (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 December 2018 21:03 (five years ago) link

I think if you are taken seriously as a pundit, that poisons the dialogue as much as many guvmint posts

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 December 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

Mick Mulvaney named acting WH chief of staff.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 December 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

Kelly's eager to get gone.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 14 December 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link

He has a nine days to finish his Xmas shopping.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 December 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/WDYOvpY.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 December 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link

The good thing about Mulvaney's appointment is that I have a late friend named John Kelly, who was a good guy, and I hated seeing his name in that context every day.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 14 December 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link

Condi Rice is being rumored to become an NFL coach? ... Is there any stronger indicator of being in the ruling class?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:06 (five years ago) link

btw I suspect if he's still rich when he dies, Trump's Tomb will be built across Riverside Drive from Grant's Tomb.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link

ObamaCare struck down? didn't the Supreme Court already settle that shit?

akm, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link

This is the lawsuit all the GOP state AGs brought arguing that w out the individual mandate, the whole thing is invalid

Οὖτις, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

blech

this also kept me from posting about George Conway going after Trump like, minutes after his wife defends Trump on TV. What is this couple's homelife like? After Trump is imprisoned will she write some tell-all? Will it get turned into a miniseries? This isn't like a James Carville/Mary Matalin situation, this guy spends every second undermining his wife's awful boss.

akm, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link

The interview with George Conway on Michael isakoffs podcast Skullduggery was buck wild. George outed himself as the Newsweek source from the Starr investigation

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:39 (five years ago) link

How about a video of Mick Mulvaney calling Trump a "terrible human being"?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-next-chief-of-staff-called-him-a-terrible-human-being-just-before-he-was-elected-president

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 15 December 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link

I'm getting a lot of questions about when the judge's opinion takes effect. Bottom line: nothing changes for now, and nothing will change for some time to come. Here's why.

— Nicholas Bagley (@nicholas_bagley) December 15, 2018

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 December 2018 04:13 (five years ago) link

Would be nice if the media actually bothered to put the ruling in context. Social media is freaking out thinking as of midnight, they have no insurance or something.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 December 2018 05:18 (five years ago) link

Invalidating the entire ACA because the personal mandate's tax penalty was eliminated is certifiably insane adjudication. That is an enormous law, touching on everything from the creating and regulating the internet marketplaces, to minimum coverage required for all policies, to nullifying pre-existing conditions in setting premiums. That judge is huffing something.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 15 December 2018 05:26 (five years ago) link

xp to be fair, this is the front page of the washington post right now:

Citing change in tax law, judge rules entire health-care law unconstitutional
White House officials said they expect the ruling to be appealed to the Supreme Court, so the law remains in place for now.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 15 December 2018 05:33 (five years ago) link

The idea that this ruling can withstand legal review seems... improbable.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 15 December 2018 05:38 (five years ago) link

Brett is organising a kegger the night before the review tho

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 15 December 2018 09:32 (five years ago) link

And Roberts might decide that since they didn't strike down the law the last time, they have to do so now to seem impartial.

Frederik B, Saturday, 15 December 2018 11:05 (five years ago) link

If you're placing bets on what precipitating event might finally catalyze mass revolt among the populace, you could do worse than 'the unceremonious barring of access to health care they've had nearly a decade to accept as a given'.

Home Despot (Old Lunch), Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link

some of us will be too weak to revolt

bring a gun to my bed

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

https://youtu.be/u7ASFcnxC_k

We talked about Roth but I'd submit the other great chronicler of the Trump Era is Vic Berger

https://youtu.be/u7ASFcnxC_k

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 December 2018 14:10 (five years ago) link

some of us will be too weak to revolt
bring a gun to my bed
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, December 15, 2018 8:25 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't wanna kink shame but

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 December 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link

Zinke out at Interior

WmC, Saturday, 15 December 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link

Excellent

Οὖτις, Saturday, 15 December 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

I’m hearing Mulvaney for interior

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link

So he's now the secretary of the exterior?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link

That would be my political burn.

Congratulations, you are now the secretary of the exterior. (opens door) Get out!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link

also lol

Senior WH people were telling reporters this morning that Christie was likely choice. Then he said no. POTUS angry about rejections and notion that no one wants job. Mulvaney had unrelated meeting in West Wing this PM. And then he was chief of staff. https://t.co/cjRueTUUg6

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) December 15, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 15 December 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

Lots of friends still freaking out about ACA decision. I wish news networks wouldn't issue breaking news with dubious headlines just CV os they know they can fix them in 3 seconds later. Nobody views the amended bylines.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 December 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

folks he's more isolated

I know this sort of story is just as robotic and predictable as the "day he finally became president" or "he's coming unhinged" stories, but it is probably true that his political capital is running at low ebb after the midterms, and because he's never held office before his political connections to other power centers in DC have always been shallow. Add to this the steady pressure of indictments, guilty pleas and convictions coming out of Mueller's investigation and the balance of fear is slowly shifting from fear of Trump's power to an even greater fear of Trump's bringing down his party with him.

In fine, for DC insiders he's got "one-term disaster" written all over him atm. Unless he can pull another rabbit out of his hat that revitalizes the fear of his power among Republicans, he'll be slowly set adrift, still holding office, but losing much of his leverage over real power as the party elites try to protect themselves from his 'dead man walking' stank.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 15 December 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link

Right -- I mean, the newest inner circle person on board is Cipollone, and he's clearly a damage control person at best who knows he's working with a pretty bad hand. Mulvaney moved sideways, Barr hasn't faced the Senate, etc. It's a bit of a dull churn of usual suspects (literally) and grizzled apparatchiks.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 December 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

Up Schiff's creek:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/12/24/adam-schiffs-plans-to-obliterate-trumps-red-line

Though I've got to admit, the red line shit bugs me. I remember when that Times interview took place (about 122 years ago, iirc). It was totally at their prompting. They were like, what if Mueller looked into your personal business, would that be a red line? And he's all, yes. And ever since then it's been "omg, Trump said looking into his family business is a red line!" But has Trump said anything about a red line since that first interview? Though I've got to admit I'm surprised he hasn't taken credit for inventing the term "red line."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 December 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

Anyway, this is a headline:

With nearly every organization Trump has led under investigation, legal threats could dominate his third year in office

That's a good way to put it. "With nearly every organization Trump has led under investigation." It's the singularity.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 December 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link


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