I saw it in 3D and thought the spaceships looked like big blobs of plasticine that looked ridiculous but apparently that was my eyes not this film.
― brokenshire (jed_), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link
Film Comment contributors/editors Poll:
01. Zama02. Burning03. First Reformed04. Roma05. Western06. Shoplifters07. Let the Sunshine In08. The Other Side of the Wind09. Happy As Lazzaro10. Hale County This Morning, This Evening
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 03:13 (five years ago) link
https://www.filmcomment.com/best-films-of-2018/
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 03:15 (five years ago) link
SAG nominations are the first (probably only) wrench in the Regina King runaway. (And, as I said before, the Ethan Hawke portion of our tour through detrius looks to be over.)
Supporting ActorMahershala Ali, Green BookTimothee Chalamet, Beautiful BoyAdam Driver, BlacKkKlansmanSam Elliott, A Star is BornRichard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Supporting ActressAmy Adams, ViceEmily Blunt, A Quiet PlaceMargot Robbie, Mary, Queen of ScotsEmma Stone, The FavouriteRachel Weisz, The Favourite
Lead ActorChristian Bale, ViceBradley Cooper, A Star is BornRami Malek, Bohemian RhapsodyViggo Mortensen, Green BookJohn David Washington, BlacKkKlansman
Lead ActressEmily Blunt, Mary Poppins ReturnsGlenn Close, The WifeOlivia Colman, The FavouriteLady Gaga, A Star is BornMelissa McCarthy, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Motion Picture CastBlack PantherBlacKkKlansmanBohemian RhapsodyCrazy Rich AsiansA Star is Born
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link
Emily Blunt getting that second nomination for A Quiet Place makes Toni Collette's snub seem even more pointed.
Oh, and for some reason, Film Comment now adds the other half of their top 20 that wasn't there last night:
01. Zama02. Burning03. First Reformed04. Roma05. Western06. Shoplifters07. Let the Sunshine In08. The Other Side of the Wind09. Happy As Lazzaro10. Hale County This Morning, This Evening11. Sorry to Bother You12. If Beale Street Could Talk13. The Rider14. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs15. Support the Girls16. You Were Never Really Here17. Monrovia, Indiana18. Personal Problems19. The Favourite20. BlacKkKlansman
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link
Supporting actor noms set in stone, I see.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
Basically.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
armond tweeted at me
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
What did he tweet?
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
for good or ill? i bet i can guess
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link
Zama is thoroughly respectable and well made, but i'll have to give it another look (NYFF, Oct '17)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link
Zama was so fucking good, can't wait to give it a very high placing in my ilx ballot.
How is Burning?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link
It's OK, with a few transcendent scenes. Overlong and the ending doesn't really work.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
burning and zama both trade on elusivity, but the latter does a better job of preserving it past the ending
― devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link
Saw 'Burning' today at a press screening, and I'm most of all fascinated by how on earth this becomes the best reviewed film ever out of Cannes. It's definitely good, sure, but it does nothing that you haven't seen before.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
glad to see more women filmmakers represented in the Sight and Sound and Film Comment lists
― Dan S, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
Zama worked so well in part for me because Martel's own comments about the movie and what it was up to (especially its looking to depict the ambient banality/quiet absurdity of life under colonial rule, rather than depicting it as some sort of overwhelmingly oppressive terror or a torturefest) were so illuminating
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
ZAMA brings off its ambiguities better than BURNING did.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
i think the llamas should get some awards
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
between that and the big dog in claire's camera, a good year for scene stealing animals
― devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link
Add 24 Frames to that list.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
many xps - i said armond's work for the NR is more tedious than offensive, and he said "Keep reading. You might learn something..."
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link
Yeah, condescension is his long suit.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
Paraphrasing but Lee Chang-Dong talked about how he wanted to sneak all the great questions and mysteries of the world, the issues young people are facing, into Burning, and I felt that, but it's part of what makes it a little difficult to talk about. It suggests truths and lies around us, and it's hard to grasp with words. And so rather than its themes I focus on the unbelievable atmosphere, the humming rhythm of it, the likability of the three main characters and the great lines the actors deliver so well.
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
Hopefully I can get to watch it sometime.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
i was happy to see that in the NYT Mag's big spread on the year's best actors, they chose the OTHER guy in Burning (whose name few can remember, including me). Just as crucial and a more subtle, difficult role.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
I don't dislike Burning, but that anyone can find the characters likable is a bigger mystery to me than anything in the film.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
There are no likeable characters in arthouse cinema - haven't you noticed this?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
i mean except for the llama
― devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link
who finds them likable? the 3 main ones are all maladjusted at best.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link
the two men are sociopaths
I should say, the likability of the performances. Or the sheen of likability about both Ben and Haemi, with disturbances beneath the surface. Jongsu is in some permanent funk, but there's still the fumbling suggestion of someone likable, for a while. Then, not anymore.
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link
― Frederik B,
I'm not seeing this? Steven Yeun made his empty vessel Gatsby fascinating. It could be I have a fascination with these types.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link
I find it very hard to discuss this without spoiling the film, but it seems like there's a pretty major plot point people are ignoring...
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:03 (five years ago) link
I can't believe Alfred doesn't think the Yeun character is a sociopath. He spells it out in his own dialogue.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
Better: Ben wants Jongsu to think he's a bad ass/sociopath.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
It's not what he says, it's what he does
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
...and ppl disagree on what he does offscreen
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link
Lol. People are stupid.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link
I'm curious to know what the notionally ignored plot point is.
― brokenshire (jed_), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
All the signs point in one direction, but I guess that explains why people think the film is 'mysterious'.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
It doesn't matter.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link
Lol
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link
fwiw Yeun said that Lee told him to decide for himself whether his character did X, and not to tell him.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
so shove it, Fred
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link
None of the damning implications about Korean society makes sense without X, and it says so much about how far western film critic society has their heads up their asses that they just go 'it doesn't matter'.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link
I'll defer to you, Korean sociologist.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:13 (five years ago) link
so I assume Slant is unveiling Friday -- Indiewire too?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link
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Yeah, what a strange idea, being a film critic and delving into the context of a film I'm reviewing.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link