Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

the MMA episode was good but i don't know if i can watch that much on MMA

― No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, December 11, 2018 6:37 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol the MMA stuff is the most interesting/best-executed part, it's the political angle that's suspect (I also do not care about MMA)

― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, December 11, 2018 6:45 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agree with simon here & i even legitimately dislike MMA

the MMA doc is pretty good, i learned quite a bit. i'm sympathetic to biederman's thesis that it allowed for something legitimately strange and unarguably direct in a time when life got ever more managerial, duplicitous and unforgiving. but that seems to be *his* point of attachment to the sport.

i was a little disappointed he didn't at least take on the idea that it provided a spectacle of masculine violence in a time that has been, little by little, more feminized. i mean that just seems obvious, and a clear link to its trumpiness.

^^^^^^otm

I remember him talking about fighting and bringing up that point in an interview shortly after the 2016 election, I forget the podcast name but the logo was a cassette tape. pretty sure Matt went on earlier as well.

They need more group movie viewing and right-wing novel reading series eps.

― louise ck (milo z)

agreed 100%. they should do Green Book

the nostalgia trap

Can’t decide which thread to put this in so here goes:

“Let Me Make You Famous”: How Hollywood Invented Ben Shapiro
With the shaping of producer Jeremy Boreing, Brand Shapiro has made owning the libs a lucrative business, and the Daily Wire a rising power in conservative media. But can they survive Trump?

TINA NGUYEN
DECEMBER 9, 2018 5:30 PM

...Before Shapiro, Boreing was a fairly obscure Hollywood figure, perhaps best known for helping to produce Etienne!, a buddy movie about a dying dwarf hamster. His primary political affiliation was as the managing director of Friends of Abe, a quasi-secretive salon of conservative entertainment-industry professionals, which he had taken over from Forrest Gump actor Gary Sinise. Years earlier, Andrew Breitbart, a celebrity in his own right within Friends of Abe, had introduced him to Shapiro, and they became fast friends, both serving time at Truth Revolt, a now-defunct Web site, started as the right’s answer to David Brock’s Media Matters, which churned out reliable content attacking the mainstream media and their secret funders. Truth Revolt placated its ancient donors at the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a nonprofit condemned by the Southern Poverty Law Center, but it was far too earnest, and barely made a ripple.

Gary Sinise AND Andrew Breetbort!

Breet your friends and bort them back

'jeremy boreing'

https://i.redd.it/c73jtrf86x321.jpg

https://i.redd.it/c73jtrf86x321.jpg

i love when these loons say that the connections are obvious

lmfao

Awesome

the champ is here

omg garlands banner photo, hoooooooooly fuck #peakresistance etc etc

Breaking the internet with ⁦@SeanMcElwee⁩ ⁦@virgiltexas⁩ ⁦@HeerJeet⁩ pic.twitter.com/Y3n9euCFU4

— David Klion (@DavidKlion) December 13, 2018

Hatchet Yeet Jeet Meet & Greet

So Q has never given out disinformation before? If JFKJr was in fact alive, how would Sun Tzu answer the question "is JFKJr alive?" Would he say 'yes' or would he say 'no'? How do you think Sun Tzu would answer the question Jeremy? Would he show his hand or would he hide it?

— Cary Kembla (@CaryKembla) December 13, 2018

"how would Sun Tzu answer the question "is JFKJr alive?"" is going to stick with me for a while

lmfao

hahaha

Speaking of which, Matt went on the Qanon Anonymous podcast:
https://soundcloud.com/qanonanonymous/episode-19-jfk-feat-matt-christman-of-chapo-trap-house

(About halfway thru)

Back in the USSR:

The ladies discuss the latest Drake/Kanye feud, Houellebecq's pro-Trump hot take in Harper's, Hillary's Indian wedding jaunt, and the meaning behind Melania's changing hair color.

I honestly didn't think anyone stuck with red scare

Houellebecq's pro-Trump hot take in Harper's

Things I would sooner gouge out my eyes than read.

Wtf, Simon Reynolds went on there to talk about Mark Fisher?

I did listen to that episode and it wasn't bad. Mostly Simon talking.

neat!

I'm as suspicious of liberal identity politics as the next leftist grouch but I've never really seen what people see in "exiting the vampire castle" which doesn't really engage with pro-identity politics voices, just lots of ad hom from a trad marxist about the "petit-bourgeois", "post-structuralist", "moralizing", "mccarthyite", "'left'" throughout and, on the other hand: praise of Russell Brand.

i think it was just an early critique of idpol from the left and therefore seems somewhat prescient for ppl sympathetic to critiques of liberal identity politics today but i never felt like beyond its historical significance it was the definitive take on the topic - and also his personal narrative lends sympathy vis-a-vis the blowback he got for the article, etc and how that relates to the contemporary debate.

good point.

does give me "there is nothing new under the sun" vibes when i think about the traditional class focused marxist vs eurocommunist culturalist discourse in the CPGB in the 70s.

https://graphtreon.com/creator/chapotraphouse

Amazing that the Patreon continues to grow given how little of a shit they seem to give about the show.

vampire castle is aight but mark fisher's empathy and insight had a big impact on my life and i hate seeing his work reduced to a cudgel in twitter slapfights over cum town or whatever

it’s one of his stickier works but far from Fisher’s most interesting writing. ppl want to tear down the academy, but lives next door to the academy

catching up here, I haven’t checked out the mma doc but am interested and we should do a thread. a little less than a decade ago I’d done a fair bit of mma watching and my friend’s bf was working in the video editing trailer for ufc, going around the world but stuck in a metal box in the parking lot cutting up clips for promos. lots of weird shit and opinions on Dana White and the money

the SNL episode felt like listening to some people read our SNL thread aloud

I was gonna say, I was glad when they moved on from that cause it was just too depressing to even think about

lmfao will and amber incredulous at matt for saying he actually watches SNL

Been enjoying Street Fight lately quite a bit, love these dudes

i very much relate to matt's inability to stop watching SNL no matter how bad it gets

I would pay like a good dollar for a monthly guide to the best of that month's Street Fight. it's just too much damn pod

I get so many Patreon emails from Street Fight, I don't even read the episode descriptions anymore.

A movie ep where they giddily praise a DCEU flick

hellworld is full of surprises

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nojrpd2WL30&pbjreload=10

broken link

not loading - the Matt/Will/Virgil talk about Starship Troopers

Matt's dressed like an adult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nojrpd2WL30

oh sick, thanks for sharing - will watch asap

Virgil snuck in a good unremarked-upon line in the tabletop ep: “I’ll be back in two gifs,” with a hard g.

Amber solidifies her place as the crew's true Berniebro

https://thebaffler.com/all-tomorrows-parties/its-bernie-bitch-frost