The Good Place on NBC

So if they're finally in the real Good Place is it all going to be based on perceptions of idyllic society from 500 years ago? Hope so!

Loved it esp the accounting dept

I was kind of surprised how much taller Stephen Merchant is than Ted Danson.

I noticed that too!

yeah same
he is ridiculously tall

(I would suggest that by the established rules so far it isn't odd that Doug isn't getting into heaven - all of his actions are directed at that end)

This episode contradicts some of even that though, because it says once a value's set it's automatically applied and some of the activities pre-dates a concept of a good or bad place (I would guess, since we'll never know whether God and the Afterlife were our first sentient thoughts.)

in 1497 (521 years ago) this guy died:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Manetti

“He is particularly noted for his investigations into the site, shape and size of Dante's Inferno. Although Manetti never himself published his research regarding the topic, the earliest Renaissance Florentine editors of the poem, Cristoforo Landino and Girolamo Benivieni, reported the results of his researches in their respective editions of the Divine Comedy.”

didn't they previously say abraham lincoln was in the good place?

Yeah, but those were demons pretending to be Good place folks, right? So they just lied.

yeah, that's what i was figuring as well

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1mcsGL6_--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/t1vm2sekvydzpayiavuz.png

it's always been close, but i feel like chidi has become Too Perfect

just wait til he has to pick a hat to wear

rule changes kinda got to me last episode ("the system is rigged by the bad place" -> "the system didn't adjust with the increasing complexity of human life" kinda lame and obvious but fine) but last night's episode was excellent, hopefully they settle down a little on the super expository plot shifts

derek

lol'd at the "time knife" bit

haven't watched this week's ep yet, but god this show is *so close* to inadvertently backing a full-throated critique of global capitalism lol

I think it’s advertently

enh Schur seems like a standard-issue liberal from what I've seen but I'd be happy to be wrong

but he's explicitly making the argument that globalism implicates even well meaning consumers into such a web of exploitation and avarice that even nice acts are net negatives to humanity. how could that be inadvertent?

well ppl often fail to realize the implications of powerful arguments when they start thinking that they sound like a cool way to dunk on ppl

but he's explicitly making the argument that globalism implicates even well meaning consumers into such a web of exploitation and avarice that even nice acts are net negatives to humanity. how could that be inadvertent?

inadvertent only in the sense that the show diagnoses this as simply "modern life" and not the product of a specific set of historical processes at work. which makes sense because it's a sitcom and not an undergraduate lecture series

likely linked upthread but all mentioned points are fairly intentional if perhaps not completely thought through
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/04/magazine/good-place-michael-schur-philosophy.html

torturing Shakespeare, lol

yeah that was my favorite throwaway gag, besides maybe Eleanor high-fiving Jason after his iHop burn

Also, can't stop laughing at Interdimensional Hole of Pancakes, especially since the "of pancakes" part was completely unexplained

i laughed for two solid minutes at how harboring a non-fried vegetable is a felony in jacksonville

counterpoint, humans are garbage. limp bizkit, slavery.

Oh man, Michael flossing

Chidi’s voice when he yelps about having seen the time knife

Every Derek/martini moment killed. Jason Mantzoukas is consistently hilarious in every show he's on. He should be on more shows.

^^ love that guy

He's even great playing the straight man in The Dictator

he is a great guest judge on nailed it

if u like zouks search every comedy bang bang ep he's been on; consistently hilarious dude

the chris gethard episode with mantzoukas and paul scheer is still the funniest thing i’ve ever seen

See also, the How Did This Get Made? podcast.

One of the things I love about the show so much is how it's becoming this complete epic journey. I started rewatching Lost last week (haven't seen it since it came out) and I am getting apprehensive about where I will give it up, knowing already the ending and how it completely fizzles out in storytelling. I hope this doesn't happen to The Good Place , but since they are already dead...

The ways they've chosen to completely reframe/reboot the plot over and over again somehow always works. Presumably introducing 4 completely new characters to recreate S1 is bold as hell.

They did such a great job casting as well.

Alison Jones also cast Freaks & Geeks, The Office: An American Workplace, The 40 Year Old Virgin, Superbad, Knocked Up, I Love You Man, Bridesmaids, Parks & Rec, Veep, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Arrested Development, Lady Bird and Eighth Grade.

Well I'm fucked up now

that was terribly sweet

what a lovely finale

that destroyed me

Great show, good finale but I'm not looking forward to every nerd wedding speech from now till eternity including the phrase "Jeremy Bearimy, baby"

Teared up at the end there.

Didn't realise it was the finale.

Me either. It does seem like a season that was getting ready for stuff to happen.

pacing of this season was all over the place but that was a really strong finale, they successfully made me care about a couple i don’t care about

it’s not a joke, i’m a legit snack

cork blork