US Politics December 2018: ~very legal and very cool~

Like Trump could handle a whole gun with those hands...

Trump will serve out his entire term.

Nixon had to face large Democratic majorities in the House and Senate. If he'd faced the 2016 or 2018 situation, there probably wouldn't have been a resignation.

Nixon didn’t have as significant propaganda extension of his messaging

Inspiring reminder: In America anyone can grow up and become Individual-1

— Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) December 8, 2018

ahahahahaha

Looks like George Papadopoulos's wife forgot to switch accounts before posting. Quickly deleted this tweet. pic.twitter.com/GpGpTD17lG

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) December 8, 2018

Its so sad when people do this

when it's these people, it's funny and should continue

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/ammon-bundy-quits-militia-movement-defends-migrant-caravan.html

So, this being 2018, Bundy naturally just disavowed the militia movement in solidarity with the migrant caravan, suggested that nationalism is actually the opposite of patriotism, and said that Trump’s America resembles nothing so much as 1930s Germany.

My head hurts

I'll take it, they were anti-gov't from the start and maybe he got a clue

To steal a sentiment, Ammon now has better politics on this issue than Angela Nagle and Hillary Clinton.

ha, probably gonna steal that myself

Trump will serve out his entire term.

Impeachment is a terrible idea.

Probably. The question is, what to do if the final details come out and he has committed undeniably impeachable offenses, like money laundering for the Russian mob and explicit bribery and stuff like that. And Republicans still don't want to do anything. What is the plan then?

Nothing. That's been my stance since May 2017. The Democrats, however, control the House. At best they make his life miserable until 2020.

Some people will write absolutely anything to stay in print.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dt5dv8JWwAAXlhM.jpg

semi-hot take!

Look, anything that serves to cover up that viscous mug as much as possible is a gift to humanity. I encourage the media to reinforce this behavior.

sorry libs, ted cruz is fuckable now

What, did some strange new orifice suddenly erupt from his squamous hide or something?

wake me when he does a full Letterman / Stipe beard.

The Cruz beard is also a good argument for free-market economics.

Why am I reading this?

What, did some strange new orifice suddenly erupt from his squamous hide or something?

Impeachment is a terrible idea.
― louise ck (milo z), Saturday, December 8, 2018 4:49 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I understand (though disagree with) the idea that *talking* impeachment before the report is complete is a terrible idea. But why is impeachment a terrible idea?

Because it may alienate some imaginary centrists? Voters capable of objecting to impeachment when this laundry list of crimes is made public are not persuadable. Even the worst-case scenario, in which a Republican senate votes not to convict, is politically advantageous. They'll have to campaign on that!

Anyway it will be incumbent on the House to proceed with impeachment. The guy's a criminal.

Impressive work gluing all the hairs to his rubber bank robber mask.

I’m 34 and it’s hard not be cynical. Nothing will happen. Trump will serve his entire term and run again.

The Iraq War
Torture
The Financical Crisis

No one faced consequences. Why will this time be different? I have 0 faith in our justice system to prosecute people in power (or with sufficient political or economic capital).

ONe of the North Carolina Republican election board (or something to that effect) was on Chris Hayes a couple of nights ago talking about the near future and said i n passing the second half of the Pence incumbency. Didn't highlight it or otherwise bring attention to it.
Would have thought it was a trump supporter, may just find out it was a never-Trumper but I thought somebody like that making a comment like that as though it was expected was interesting.

So wondering if that indicates lack of support in teh Republican party.

Impeachment is a terrible idea.
― louise ck (milo z), Saturday, December 8, 2018 4:49 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

impeachment is not feasible with a republican controlled senate but OF COURSE it's a good idea. donald trump is not a stable or normal person and he should not be anywhere near the levers of power.

like what the fuck. if there is a way to get him out it needs to be done, deal with the consequences later.

He's just going to bomb something when it gets really bad - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_%27round_the_flag_effect

free michael cohen! lock her up!

free the tax returns!

I don’t know if it’s a good idea for the Dems to pretend that the fascist president hasn’t committed impeachable offenses.

i feel like if he were that canny the dog wagging would have already begun xxxp

the house should run the table with investigations, then impeach in late 2019 or early 2020 -- when the senate shoots it down it's a fucking gift to the next campaign cycle

like I mean if you have to wait for everything to be idyllic in Congress to consider impeaching a President, then we're pretty much fucked.

the entire mechanism was designed to be almost impossible, even if you control both houses. the blowback in the Clinton case was excess focus well outside of scope, blowjobs, stained dresses, the meaning of the word "is", the amount of time devoted to it.

This is a President directing people to commit federal crimes, in addition to obstructing justice in Nixonian fashion and, in all likelihood, being compromised by a foreign actor.

At least if impeachment is unsuccessful it puts him through Hell for a while and maybe he dies of a heart attack. I opposed it earlier but hey, maybe we learn from the Republicans sacrificing branches of Government for bigger gains long-term.

The public will only be convinced by a smoking gun tape that will never exist because they watch too much crime TV where everybody confesses at the end of the ep.

or what Hoos said.

tbf the Clinton indictment alleged that the president "made false and misleading statements to potential witnesses in a Federal grand jury proceeding in order to corruptly influence the testimony of those witnesses.”

the house should run the table with investigations, then impeach in late 2019 or early 2020 -- when the senate shoots it down it's a fucking gift to the next campaign cycle

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, December 8, 2018 11:23 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

👍

"Trump brand now toxic in Putin's Kremlin" :(

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/08/europe/russia-putin-trump-bromance-intl/index.html

Hope he leaks the tape now

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/upshot/wisconsin-republicans-rural-urban-voters.html

story abt wisconsin by EMILY BADGER

“If you took Madison and Milwaukee out of the state election formula, we would have a clear majority,” he said. “We would have all five constitutional officers and we would probably have many more seats in the Legislature.”

This is most likely true, depending on how you define Madison and Milwaukee. But it’s an odd point to make, given that Madison and Milwaukee can’t be removed from Wisconsin. Nor Detroit from Michigan, nor Pittsburgh and Philadelphia from Pennsylvania, nor Raleigh and Charlotte from North Carolina.

Very sad day & night in Paris. Maybe it’s time to end the ridiculous and extremely expensive Paris Agreement and return money back to the people in the form of lower taxes? The U.S. was way ahead of the curve on that and the only major country where emissions went down last year!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 8, 2018

He literally thinks this agreement was written by the French

it’s an odd point to make

Not politically speaking. It is just more 'wedge politics' and is no different than Sarah Palin always talking about 'the real America and real Americans' in 2008, which pointedly did not include citizens who live in big cities. Suburbs are OK, because they skew toward the white middle class, but big cities are vipers' nests of minorities and liberals (i.e. second-class citizens, barely human when you think about it.) This attitude among rural Republicans is also what promotes and protects gerrymandering.

I think we're going to find a lot of Russian "active measures" when the autopsy of the French protests is done.

Yes, the French are famous for their hesitance to riot.

Russia doesn't create fissures. It takes advantage of them.

a lot of people don't realize that gucci spearheaded these protests earlier this summer

When you watch les gillets jaunes smashing boutique windows today, do take a moment to remember Gucci's choice, just 5 months ago, to market a luxury clothing collection with a mocking reappropriation of the aesthetics of the May 68 student protests in Paris pic.twitter.com/Sv9tIp1Jjm

— ཊལབསརངཧ (@David_Rudnick) December 8, 2018