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I really don't think its tommy loftus or tommy anything, based on the fact that Ryan already said he didn't know who the two beer queer was. Also in every picture he appears in everybody else is looking at/acting towards him like it's the first time they've met him. Guessing one of Ryan's friends brought this guy along to the party.

Also, key to Wayne's body language in the first pic is actually clearly: "I want to fire up that SNES so bad but I can't cause it would be weird"
knee grip expresses desire for a controller, not sublimated lust.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:27 (twenty years ago)

oh, and the picture was taken because the older brother was feeling a bit insecure about his company and their impresions of him and needed to do something to look engaged and purposeful... i hate to think that he might also be inadvertently making a joke of his brother -- something he'll realize after the girls leave and regret.

― Peter Densmore (pbnmyj), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:28 (twenty years ago)

oh, and the picture was taken because the older brother was feeling a bit insecure about his company and their impressions of him and needed to do something to look engaged and purposeful... i hate to think that he might also be inadvertently making a joke of his brother -- something he'll realize after the girls leave and regret.

― Peter Densmore (pbnmyj), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:29 (twenty years ago)

pete stop writing fiction! This is a scientific investigation and a couple of your postulates have already been counterindicated by the evidence.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:30 (twenty years ago)

based on the fact that Ryan already said he didn't know who the two beer queer was

How literally are we taking this statement, though? Maybe it's like if you did something stupid and then I gestured with my thumb toward you and asked the rest of the room, "Who's this clown?"

Loftus is clearly a guy they know but isn't in their tight-knit group of friends.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)

i love the shot of him passed out on the floor.

― AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:34 (twenty years ago)

hardly! bring me this evidence! i'm basing this on many years of high school living with people like these and many hours of analytical thought had in situations like these.

― Peter Densmore (pbnmyj), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Dude, read the thread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:37 (twenty years ago)

yes, GOD, I wish had made this thread readers-only when I started it

― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:41 (twenty years ago)

sorry, i got anxious near the beginning. oh stop. oh stop. i'm reading it now.

― Peter Densmore (pbnmyj), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

okay check it out. The guy in the middle of this picture: http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/albums/Diehls-Party/whatsandythinking.sized.jpg
is andy loftus. The body language by Andy in this picture: http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/Diehls-Party/andy_loftus
is the only picture in the entire canon in which anybody's body language says anything positive or intimate about Wayne. Also, Andy's somewhat goonie-looking, like Wayne. I'm guessing Andy's a classic man of two worlds; the geeks and the nihilistic assholes (the latter probably via being on the track team with Ryan or something, doesn't matter). He knows Wayne from, like, his job at Burger King or something and he dragged him along to this party.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:46 (twenty years ago)

job at burger king?? duude harsh

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Can anybody make out the tattoo on Andy's left forearm?

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:50 (twenty years ago)

The guy in the middle of this picture ... is andy loftus.

No, he's just Andy. We don't know his last name. Loftus is "Wayne's" name.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:51 (twenty years ago)

god, these folks probably refer to Wayne as "Loftus," don't they?

"hey loftus, go get us some more beers"

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:53 (twenty years ago)

They refer to him as Loftus in the filename of the picture, because they've got another Tom there as well.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:56 (twenty years ago)

"hey loftus, you can get us past this stage in mario, right? here, do it, willya?"

xpost could they not also refer to him as such at the party?

― kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:57 (twenty years ago)

Can anybody make out the tattoo on Andy's left forearm?

I think it says TIGGLES in Olde English script. Andy's Myspace name is "A TIGGLES." His last name, perhaps? Or a nickname?

Another view, with his bros:

http://myspace-838.vo.llnwd.net/00347/83/80/347750838_l.jpg

More trivia about Andy: HUGE metal fan, esp Pantera. Girlfriend's name is Ashlee.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

I don't think that Andy's last name is Loftus, as the jpg name to this one suggests otherwise.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:59 (twenty years ago)

Hello, I've missed the whole of this thread. Please tell me what's happened.

― Vintage Latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:59 (twenty years ago)

who knew wayne would be the keeper??

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:59 (twenty years ago)

wow! hoagies AND steaks!

― kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

you guys are right; wayne is Loftus and Andy's not.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:09 (twenty years ago)

CAST OF CHARACTERS

Tommy Loftus: a/k/a/ Wayne, "Hooters," "shadeball"

Ryan Diehl: currently stationed in Iraq

Megan: girl on left in original photo, Diehl's girlfriend

John Tansey: another dude at party

Firco: Tansey's girlfriend?

Laurel: girl on right in original photo

Pete: dude in West Chester sweatshirt at party

Caitlyn: not at party, but active on Diehl's message board and Myspace

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:23 (twenty years ago)

Still trying to figure out who the dude sitting next to Laurel on the bed is, but I don't think I can keep opening up flashing Day-Glo Myspace pages at work today...

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh, obviously, I forgot:

Andy "Tiggles": details above

Tommy Turnbull: childhood friend of Diehl's; his mom even posts on the message board

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:25 (twenty years ago)

About hookers, no?

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:29 (twenty years ago)

sadly, for both the men, the girls will soon be gone with a shaky excuse.

http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/albums/Diehls-Party/bye.sized.jpg

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Practically:

Hey Ryan! It's me Mrs. T. I just wanted to wish you a Happy 20th Birthday!!! It's so hard to believe you are that old. It seems like just yesterday that you and Tommy were looking at Mr. T's Playboy magazines and setting fires.....I'm glad I didn't know all the stuff you guys got into, but you did get caught at a lot......Anyhow, hope all is well over there and you're able to celebrate a little. Stay safe and well.
Mrs. Turnbull

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)

wow, this thread was made for jaymc.

uhh xpost

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:35 (twenty years ago)

I wish I got paid for this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:36 (twenty years ago)

you are the dj martian for random people on the internet.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I think Diehl is back from Iraq. At least his myspace page would suggest so.

"readers-only"?

― Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I think you're right, Sam.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:39 (twenty years ago)

I wonder how he's faring?

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:40 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, you know how they say one should love one's work? That when you find what you love to do, it becomes so much less of a "job"? Well, seriously, you should transition your skills into some kind of profitable career.
whoa, holy xpost!!

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)

jaymc: private eye!!!

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:18 (twenty years ago)

i don't think meagan is diehl's gf anymore. his myspace page says single and she's not in his top 8...

― tehresa (tehresa), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Oh snap.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:29 (twenty years ago)

Is she on Myspace at all, though?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:29 (twenty years ago)

"Dear John"

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:29 (twenty years ago)

we are all guardian angels.

― Peter Densmore (pbnmyj), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:31 (twenty years ago)

Is he dating Danielle now?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:33 (twenty years ago)

he is "single"

maybe they are talking, but she doesn't leave comments for him...

― tehresa (tehresa), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:41 (twenty years ago)

still nothing re: buildings :(

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:02 (twenty years ago)

It's sleeptime in Finland right now, ken.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:13 (twenty years ago)

that owl's totally staring at my boobs.jpg

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:37 (twenty years ago)

someone could use this thread as the jumping-off point for a sundance-award-winning documentary. looking for wayne.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:40 (twenty years ago)

(roger ebert would say it "raises more questions than it answers about the line between public and private in the internet age." gawker would call it "sorrow and the pity for the myspace generation." dr. morbius and armond white would hate it. wayne would get a miller lite ad.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:46 (twenty years ago)

one of the philly ilxors should stake out the king of prussia hooters and wait for wayne's inevitable return...

― tehresa (tehresa), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:57 (twenty years ago)

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