xp what I've also seen people mention in the past is that, in cases where screen time is basically equal, class/status tends to come into play, along with in Brokeback's case, top/bottom status
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:16 (seven years ago)
Seeing The Favourite tonight or tomorrow but yeah the way that literal character hierarchy has apparently translated into performance category hierarchy seems to be pretty transparent
― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:18 (seven years ago)
(and hilarious)
John C. Reilly, Stan & Ollie
what
hater
(opens end of the month here)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 December 2018 15:26 (seven years ago)
Brody names 40... first list i've seen with The Spy Who Dumped Me on it.
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/2018-in-review/the-best-movies-of-2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 December 2018 22:31 (seven years ago)
That Hale County film looks v interesting.
― brokenshire (jed_), Thursday, 6 December 2018 22:52 (seven years ago)
I'm delighted to see Sollers Point showing up instead of being buried in afternoon screenings at film festivals (as it was here in March).
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2018 22:56 (seven years ago)
so Brody liked Jeannette
just saw Let the Sunshine In. feel like I need to see it again
― Dan S, Friday, 7 December 2018 03:18 (seven years ago)
John C Reilly's makeup wattles playing old Oliver Hardy look like they could store lunch for the entire shoot
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 December 2018 03:54 (seven years ago)
Alm0nd has no time for any of the AFI top 10: https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/american-film-institute-top-films-2018-list-bad-judgment/amp/I’ll save you the click:
It’s the first week of December and the nation’s countless, overeager awards groups have already begun parceling out their year-end encomiums. They kowtow to Hollywood, obviously without having seen all the films yet to be released in 2018 — only movies that the big studios from Disney to Netflix have already decided are award-worthy.The most egregious of these early-starters is the American Film Institute, which rushed the awards race with its 10 Best choices, sprinting out of the gate before a couple of the listed movies have even opened in theaters. The problem is that movies no longer have a chance to register in the culture or to become beloved or reviled by the public. It’s the case of yet another institution, based in Hollywood or D.C. (the AFI has feet in both), making decisions for the rest of us, indifferent to our participation.The AFI began 51 years ago, after a Johnson-administration call for an organization committed to preserving America’s film heritage. It was originally funded by the National Endowment for the Arts, the Motion Picture Association of America, and the Ford Foundation, so its list sounds official. But the movie awards game is part of the commercialization of pop culture.Even the debatable idea that the government should finance artists (through any means) is belied by the endorsement of commercialism rather than artistic expression. Be assured, there’s a political component to this: The films that won the AFI’s approval are all politically motivated and represent social-justice precepts rather than moral virtues or aesthetic standards. In other words, they’re propaganda.Listed alphabetically, the AFI films assume the same values that are promoted in politically biased mainstream media; the list resembles an index for Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.BlacKkKlansman. In this clumsy race satire, “ridicule is man’s most important weapon” — Alinsky’s Rule 5. Spike Lee distorts a black-police-informer (and real-life race-traitor) tale about infiltrating the Ku Klux Klan and then uses slanted documentary footage to incite resistance to the current administration.Black Panther. This Marvel Comics adaptation works from the idea that “a good tactic is one your people enjoy,” as Alinksy’s Rule 6 states. The black Millennial audience is exploited, its childlike need for empowerment used against it by replacing historical fact and learning with fantasy.Eighth Grade. By assuming a teenager’s perspective, writer-director Bo Burnham follows Rule 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people” (the clueless market, in this case). With this approach, he makes the idea of “girl power” maudlin.If Beale Street Could Talk. Using a minor James Baldwin novel to “go outside the expertise of the enemy” (Rule 3), Barry Jenkins’s white-guilt collage mixes romance with prison reform, religious mockery, and other topical targets. His Baldwinetics fake African-American authenticity.The Favourite. Through this perverse Anglophilic tale, America’s inferiority complex manages to “maintain constant pressure upon the opposition” (Rule 10). By fostering contempt and scandal, the filmmakers show contempt for the audience.First Reformed. Here, religious skepticism is the means of carrying out Rule 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” So Ethan Hawke’s manic Calvinist minister is radicalized, becoming a crazed eco-terrorist without faith or redemption.Green Book. The relationship between a straight white bigot and a gay black artiste dishes up a trite lesson in brotherhood, by which the racist “threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself” (Rule 9). Everyone is patronized.Mary Poppins Returns. Moviegoers are forced to endure remake/reboot mania as Hollywood’s dominant form of indoctrination, proving that “a tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag” (Rule 7).A Quiet Place. This insipid horror film retread, based on the premise that “power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have” (Rule 1), inspired the fallacious label “Smart Horror.” Fanboys, beware.A Star Is Born. The latest showbiz shell game follows the command to “never go outside the expertise of your people” (Rule 2), thus inspiring more celebrity worship.Roma. Boutique neorealism in this Mexican import, which won a “Special Award” from AFI, owing to its foreign-language status, helps “keep the pressure on” (Rule 8). Its pathetic “humanitarian crisis” is uncannily in tune with the Caravan vs. Invasion canard now favored by media and open-borders politicians.It’s obvious from this roll call that the AFI committee is not a group of adventurous filmseekers. (As critic John Demetry responded: “Two Emily Blunt movies!”) The Special Award to Alfonso Cuaron’s Roma reveals ignorance of movie history plus an irresistible urge to conflate political sentiment and artistic objectives. American film culture has reached a point where propaganda has become a goal even while its shameless obviousness goes largely unrecognized.The AFI list shares a certain smugness with AFI alum Paul Schrader’s recent tirade against the contemporary film audience: “It’s not that us filmmakers are letting you down, it’s you audiences that are letting us down.” Ralph Waldo Emerson’s maxim “Tis the good reader that makes the good book” is offended by these “official” statements on movie quality and film perception. The AFI’s hastiness forces elite political preferences over the public’s intellectual, spiritual, and aesthetic needs.These insidious “entertainments” destabilize U.S. culture. The rush to proclaim a 2018 movie canon without even a brief test of any film’s probable worth is merely another example of the industry’s habit of deception. Can anyone clean up this intellectual swamp?
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 13:20 (seven years ago)
he's right that the Spike joint is clumsy
but they often are
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
a Spike joint that isn't clumsy is a Trump rally without LOCK HER UP
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)
His Baldwinetics fake African-American authenticity.
He's become a bad writer who won't get the copy editing he needs.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:06 (seven years ago)
Update! According to Deadline, THIS is the most wide-open Oscar race in years. Forget those other years, THIS IS THE ONE. https://t.co/DxEJIN9rX5 https://t.co/ohGKGA0toV— Mark Blankenship (@IAmBlankenship) December 6, 2018
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:23 (seven years ago)
I even started the Oscars thread for you.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:34 (seven years ago)
I'm so happy you're happy.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:38 (seven years ago)
For me?! Oh how nice of you!
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:43 (seven years ago)
How nice for Eve. How nice for everybody.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:44 (seven years ago)
LAFCA is this Sunday and Boston (who awarded Phantom Thread last year) the next Sunday. But here are Chicago's way too many nominations:
BEST PICTUREThe FavouriteFirst ReformedHereditaryRomaA Star is BornBEST DIRECTORBradley Cooper, A Star is BornAlfonso Cuarón, RomaYorgos Lanthimos, The FavouriteLynne Ramsay, You Were Never Really HerePaul Schrader, First ReformedBEST ACTORChristian Bale, Vice Bradley Cooper, A Star is BornEthan Hawke, First Reformed Rami Malek, Bohemian RhapsodyJoaquin Phoenix, You Were Never Really Here BEST ACTRESSYalitza Aparicio, RomaToni Collette, Hereditary Lady Gaga, A Star is BornRegina Hall, Support the GirlsMelissa McCarthy, Can You Ever Forgive Me? BEST SUPPORTING ACTORMahershala Ali, Green Book Timothee Chalamet, Beautiful Boy Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?Michael B. Jordan, Black PantherSteven Yeun, BurningBEST SUPPORTING ACTRESSOlivia Colman, The FavouriteElizabeth Debicki, WidowsZoe Kazan, The Ballad of Buster ScruggsRegina King, If Beale Street Could TalkRachel Weisz, The Favourite BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAYBlacKkKlansman by Charlie Wachtel, David Rabinowitz, Kevin Willmott & Spike LeeCan You Ever Forgive Me? by Nicole Holofcener & Jeff WhittyThe Death of Stalin by Armando Iannucci, David Schneider & Ian MartinIf Beale Street Could Talk by Barry JenkinsA Star is Born by Eric Roth, Bradley Cooper & Will FettersBEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAYEighth Grade by Bo BurnhamThe Favourite by Deborah Davis & Tony McNamaraFirst Reformed by Paul SchraderRoma by Alfonso CuaronVice by Adam McKayBEST ANIMATED FEATUREIncredibles 2Isle of DogsRalph Breaks the InternetRuben Brandt: CollectorSpider-Man: Into the Spider-verseBEST DOCUMENTARYFree SoloMinding the GapRBGThree Identical StrangersWon’t You Be My Neighbor?BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILMBurningCapernaumCold WarRomaShopliftersBEST ART DIRECTIONAnnihilationBlack PantherThe Favourite Paddington 2Roma BEST CINEMATOGRAPHYCold War – Lukasz ZalThe Favourite – Robbie Ryan First Man – Linus SandgrenIf Beale Street Could Talk – James LaxtonRoma – Alfonso CuaronBEST EDITINGFirst ManThe Other Side of the WindRoma WidowsYou Were Never Really HereBEST ORIGINAL SCOREFirst Man – Justin HurwitzIf Beale Street Could Talk – Nicholas BritellMandy – Johan JohannsonSuspiria – Thom YorkeYou Were Never Really Here – Jonny GreenwoodBEST USE OF VISUAL EFFECTSAnnihilation Black PantherFirst ManMission: Impossible – Fallout Paddington 2MOST PROMISING FILMMAKERAri Aster, HereditaryBo Burnham, Eighth GradeBradley Cooper, A Star is BornBing Liu, Minding the GapBoots Riley, Sorry to Bother YouMOST PROMISING PERFORMERYalitza Aparicio, RomaElsie Fisher, Eighth GradeLady Gaga, A Star is BornThomasin Harcourt McKenzie, Leave No TraceJohn David Washington, BlacKkKlansman & Monsters and Men
BEST DIRECTORBradley Cooper, A Star is BornAlfonso Cuarón, RomaYorgos Lanthimos, The FavouriteLynne Ramsay, You Were Never Really HerePaul Schrader, First Reformed
BEST ACTORChristian Bale, Vice Bradley Cooper, A Star is BornEthan Hawke, First Reformed Rami Malek, Bohemian RhapsodyJoaquin Phoenix, You Were Never Really Here
BEST ACTRESSYalitza Aparicio, RomaToni Collette, Hereditary Lady Gaga, A Star is BornRegina Hall, Support the GirlsMelissa McCarthy, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
BEST SUPPORTING ACTORMahershala Ali, Green Book Timothee Chalamet, Beautiful Boy Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?Michael B. Jordan, Black PantherSteven Yeun, Burning
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESSOlivia Colman, The FavouriteElizabeth Debicki, WidowsZoe Kazan, The Ballad of Buster ScruggsRegina King, If Beale Street Could TalkRachel Weisz, The Favourite
BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAYBlacKkKlansman by Charlie Wachtel, David Rabinowitz, Kevin Willmott & Spike LeeCan You Ever Forgive Me? by Nicole Holofcener & Jeff WhittyThe Death of Stalin by Armando Iannucci, David Schneider & Ian MartinIf Beale Street Could Talk by Barry JenkinsA Star is Born by Eric Roth, Bradley Cooper & Will Fetters
BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAYEighth Grade by Bo BurnhamThe Favourite by Deborah Davis & Tony McNamaraFirst Reformed by Paul SchraderRoma by Alfonso CuaronVice by Adam McKay
BEST ANIMATED FEATUREIncredibles 2Isle of DogsRalph Breaks the InternetRuben Brandt: CollectorSpider-Man: Into the Spider-verse
BEST DOCUMENTARYFree SoloMinding the GapRBGThree Identical StrangersWon’t You Be My Neighbor?
BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILMBurningCapernaumCold WarRomaShoplifters
BEST ART DIRECTIONAnnihilationBlack PantherThe Favourite Paddington 2Roma
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHYCold War – Lukasz ZalThe Favourite – Robbie Ryan First Man – Linus SandgrenIf Beale Street Could Talk – James LaxtonRoma – Alfonso Cuaron
BEST EDITINGFirst ManThe Other Side of the WindRoma WidowsYou Were Never Really Here
BEST ORIGINAL SCOREFirst Man – Justin HurwitzIf Beale Street Could Talk – Nicholas BritellMandy – Johan JohannsonSuspiria – Thom YorkeYou Were Never Really Here – Jonny Greenwood
BEST USE OF VISUAL EFFECTSAnnihilation Black PantherFirst ManMission: Impossible – Fallout Paddington 2
MOST PROMISING FILMMAKERAri Aster, HereditaryBo Burnham, Eighth GradeBradley Cooper, A Star is BornBing Liu, Minding the GapBoots Riley, Sorry to Bother You
MOST PROMISING PERFORMERYalitza Aparicio, RomaElsie Fisher, Eighth GradeLady Gaga, A Star is BornThomasin Harcourt McKenzie, Leave No TraceJohn David Washington, BlacKkKlansman & Monsters and Men
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:01 (seven years ago)
Steven Yeun, Burning
at last
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:03 (seven years ago)
I'm glad they remembered Joaquin; otherwise, that Best Actor lineup is pretty much what we'll expect through February, isn't it?
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:04 (seven years ago)
Mortensen will sub for Phoenix later.
how nice that Wiseman and Bisbee '17 are falling short of the RBG and Rogers documentary cults
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
nice to see Hereditary get a Picture nod
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:32 (seven years ago)
Maybe I'm looking only at lists selectively, but I've seen Monrovia and Bisbee on way more lists than RBG, at least.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)
and nothing for the well intentioned but perfunctory Love, Gilda (Radner)
― flappy bird, Friday, 7 December 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
did anyone subject themselves to Mr Rogers Film
― flappy bird, Friday, 7 December 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)
millions!
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:54 (seven years ago)
I can't.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)
me neither, the trailer was enough
― flappy bird, Friday, 7 December 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)
happy to see that Burning is still playing here, excited to check it out next week
The Mr. Rogers movie is a perfectly fine DVD bonus feature.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 18:30 (seven years ago)
on the Rosemary's Baby Criterion edition
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2018 19:08 (seven years ago)
Worth noting that in LAFCC gave its Best Actress trophy to Yoon Jeong-hee for Poetry, another Lee film.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)
*in 2011
loved that film and the performance
― Dan S, Friday, 7 December 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)
LAFCA is doing their thing.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Sunday, 9 December 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)
Best Editing, Winner: Joshua Altman and Bing Liu, MINDING THE GAP (Runner-up: Alfonso Cuarón and Adam Gough, ROMA)Best Production Design, Winner: Hannah Beachler, BLACK PANTHER (Runner-up: Fiona Crombie, THE FAVOURITE)Best Supporting Actor, Winner: Steven Yeun, BURNING (Runner-up: Hugh Grant, PADDINGTON 2)Best Music/Score, Winner: Nicholas Britell, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK (Runner-up: Justin Hurwitz, FIRST MAN)Best Cinematography, Winner: Alfonso Cuaron, ROMA (Runner-up: James Laxton, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK)
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Sunday, 9 December 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)
The Douglas Edwards Experimental Film Award will be given to Evan Johnson, Galen Johnson and Guy Maddin's THE GREEN FOGBest Animation, Winner: SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE. (Runner-up: INCREDIBLES 2)Best Actress, Winner: Olivia Colman, THE FAVOURITE (Runner-up: Toni Collette, HEREDITARY)Best Supporting Actress, Winner: Regina King, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK (Runner-up: Elizabeth Debicki, WIDOWS)
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Sunday, 9 December 2018 20:59 (seven years ago)
Category fraud!
― flappy bird, Sunday, 9 December 2018 21:02 (seven years ago)
so: NY Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”LA Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”Toronto Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”SF Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”Chicago Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”Philadelphia Film Critics - Best Picture: “Roma”NY Film Critics Online - Best Picture: “Roma”
― Dan S, Monday, 10 December 2018 03:01 (seven years ago)
kind of tedious
― Dan S, Monday, 10 December 2018 03:03 (seven years ago)
Cuaron has learned the secret: no digitally tweaked car chases
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 December 2018 03:45 (seven years ago)
instead, he digitally tweaks boring memories
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2018 13:23 (seven years ago)
Full final LAFCA awards...
Best Picture: RomaRunner-up: Burning
Best Director: Debra Granik – Leave No TraceRunner-up: Alfonso Cuarón – Roma
Best Actor: Ethan Hawke – First ReformedRunner-up: Ben Foster – Leave No Trace
Best Actress: Olivia Colman – The FavouriteRunner-up: Toni Collette – Hereditary
Best Supporting Actor: Steven Yeun – BurningRunner-up: Hugh Grant – Paddington 2
Best Supporting Actress: Regina King – If Beale Street Could TalkRunner-up: Elizabeth Debicki – Widows
Best Screenplay: Nicole Holofcener and Jeff Whitty – Can You Ever Forgive Me?Runner-up: Deborah Davis and Tony McNamara – The Favourite
Best Cinematography: Alfonso Cuarón – RomaRunner-up: James Laxton – If Beale Street Could Talk
Best Editing: Joshua Altman and Bing Liu – Minding the GapRunner-up: Alfonso Cuarón and Adam Gough – Roma
Best Production Design: Hannah Beachler – Black PantherRunner-up: Fiona Crombie – The Favourite
Best Music Score: Nicholas Britell – If Beale Street Could TalkRunner-up: Justin Hurwitz – First Man
Best Foreign Language Film: (TIE) Burning • South Korea & Shoplifters • Japan
Best Documentary/Non-Fiction Film: ShirkersRunner-up: Minding the Gap
Best Animation: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-VerseRunner-up: Incredibles 2
New Generation Award: Chloé Zhao
Career Achievement Award: Hayao Miyazaki
The Douglas Edwards Experimental/Independent Film/Video Award: Evan Johnson, Galen Johnson and Guy Maddin – The Green Fog
Special Citation: The Other Side of the Wind
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 10 December 2018 13:38 (seven years ago)
Roma as emergent consensus fave is awfully boring.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 10 December 2018 13:40 (seven years ago)
Steven YUM more like
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2018 13:42 (seven years ago)
Yeun/Grant is a nice supporting actor pairing, I must say
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 10 December 2018 13:57 (seven years ago)
After watching Paddington 2 last weekend in a catch-up session, I'll agree.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2018 13:59 (seven years ago)
What are the big bear films this year?
― Alba, Monday, 10 December 2018 14:02 (seven years ago)