I don't go to the cinema because of my tinnitus but I might make an exception for this. Will bring space helmet.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:50 (five years ago) link
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-VerseBecause we should probably have a thread about the best-looking film I've seen this year.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, December 9, 2018 8:28 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It was awesome
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, December 9, 2018 8:33 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 9 December 2018 23:48 (five years ago) link
I loved this.Just like The Lego Movie, even if it weren't an effective and sweet heart-warming funny film, just on a visual level it's an incredible work.
― Nhex, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link
Was coming around to seeing it soon, now I'm completely sold thanks to this:
https://www.theroot.com/i-expected-to-hate-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-t-1831076221
Friend who's seen it specifically agreed with this sentence:
This movie is what would happen if you took all the action and complex plots from the live-action Marvel movies, added the heart, humor and relatability of a Pixar film, with all of the dialogue by the staff writers of Atlanta.
Also interesting:
http://remezcla.com/features/film/miles-morales-spider-man-spider-verse-spanish-dialogue/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link
Seen some promo thing about Peter Parker forgetting how awesome it is to be Spiderman. Having a girlfriend killed, being tortured, buried alive, having an eye plucked out, briefly becoming a villain+murderer, your identity and lifespan in doubt, becoming a wife beater and Joe Quezada trying to destroy your marriage will do that to a guy.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 December 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
Manslaughtering your beloved wife with your radioactive jizz, too.
― sans lep (sic), Saturday, 15 December 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link
I thought this was soooooooo good.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 December 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link
This was terrific. Now that almost any superhero concept can be done live-action, it was great to see a smart film that really had to be an animated film.
― WmC, Sunday, 16 December 2018 04:25 (five years ago) link
Really liked this - and I have no previous interest in Spider-Man. The animation was spectacular and the colours often very beautiful, and the humour was fast and effective. Definitely worth seeing at the cinema.
― Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 16 December 2018 06:22 (five years ago) link
Yep, excellent film. Takes full advantage of the medium and truly feels like a comic book on the screen. I saw Aquaman the night before which was such an inept mess comparatively
― Vinnie, Sunday, 16 December 2018 07:17 (five years ago) link
Enjoyed this. Great fun.Liked the end graphics too. Very trippy.
& it does have an end of credits scene which I didn't quite get the context of.
BUt great fun, is it going to get sequels do you think?
A whole Marvel Noir film, & what else came out around the same time that series first did? Was it just the Mayflower one too?Could see some mileage in the first, less in the latter.
But Miles is set up now.Everybody else there had a previous incarnation in comics i think. Not sure about Spider girl or was that in a What If?Not come across the Sp//dr and Peni Parker thing before though.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 16 December 2018 09:55 (five years ago) link
All of them come from the comics.
― GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Sunday, 16 December 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
I was confused about something (spoilers?) .....
So Miles lives in a world where there already is a Spider-man, but then he gets bit by a *different* radioactive spider that's been wandering around? Where did the other spider come from? Nbd, I loved this, just was a bit confused.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 December 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
For those who might not be aware, Spider-Verse was an event in the comics a couple years back which mashed together literally every incarnation of Spider-Man that ever existed, including all of the variations from the comics as well as, for instance, the one from the '67 Bakshi cartoon and the one from the Electric Company and the one from the Japanese show where he piloted a giant robot. It was kinda nuts and surprisingly more fun than disastrous.
― Home Despot (Old Lunch), Sunday, 16 December 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
(I can't speak to the movie I haven't seen yet, but in the Ultimate comics there was a Peter Parker Spider-Man who died and then, yes, Miles was later bitten by a different spider and became Spider-Man Mk II.)
― Home Despot (Old Lunch), Sunday, 16 December 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link
This was fantastic - visually stunning, funny, sweet and practically bursting with ideas.
I watched this followed right after by Aquaman, which was such a letdown in comparison.
re the post credits scene: it (and pretty much the whole movie tbh) is a riff on this classic internet meme.
― Roz, Sunday, 16 December 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link
xpost Which is sort of what happens here. But where did the other spider come from, years after Peter Parker was first bitten? I thought the first spider was a one-off.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 December 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link
I thought all of the ending credits were tons of fun.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 December 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
In the comics, some scientist was trying to reverse engineer Spidey's powers after his death and Miles was bitten by one of those experimental spiders. Guessing they probably didn't want to delve too deeply into the whole 'harvesting hero corpses for their superhuman abilities' thing in this film and just left it at 'hey look, another spider'.
― Home Despot (Old Lunch), Sunday, 16 December 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
I think I was wondering more about the bit leading up to that photo. In the internet meme like.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
What a great, great film, can't say anything more than others have already. And man that design sense throughout, with the offprinted color suggestions and the like.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link
I approve of this news
http://filmmusicreporter.com/2018/12/20/christmas-songs-from-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-to-be-released/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 December 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
this was a blast. tons and tons of fun. I guess if I had one thing I would have asked for it would have been more villains.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 23 December 2018 06:14 (five years ago) link
the one from the Japanese show where he piloted a giant robot.― Home Despot (Old Lunch), Sunday, December 16, 2018 5:09 PM
Is she really anything like that version of Spiderman? Wasn't that Spiderman a bit like the classic version, but just riding a huge robot?
Apparently there are 5 Japanese versions. I like to refer to the Ono/Ikegami/Hirai version as "the masturbating Spiderman that Marvel will never fully reprint". Apparently some Japanese readers much prefer this version. Even Rumiko Takahashi (Ranma, Urusei Yatsura, Inuyasha) said the American original was "too light hearted for my taste".
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 December 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link
Ok in addition to being a good movie, this is undoubtedly the greatest technical achievement in computer animation to date.
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 24 December 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link
my 4yo buddy's review: 'i like spider-man.' why, dude? 'he gets up'
― gbx, Monday, 24 December 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
was the female Doc Ock from the comics?
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 December 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
original to this film apparently, according to wikipedia
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 24 December 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
particular <3 to Kathryn Hahn, Liev Schreiber, Lily Tomlin in this v good voice cast.
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 24 December 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link
"do animals talk in this universe?"
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 December 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link
the trailers in front of this were a mix of very dire and samey children's animation about fuzzy animals with indistinguishable handclappy pop themes, intolerable Christian movies, and DC's Shazam, which struck me as at least not horribly misbegotten and possibly charming in a throwbacky kind of way
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 24 December 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
god, the crossturbation trailers actually had me reacting loudly in the theatre. we had two of them.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 December 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link
did you get the one with Topher Grace?
I wouldn't know
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 24 December 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
was the female Doc Ock from the comics?― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, December 24, 2018 5:33 PM
original to this film apparently, according to wikipedia― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, December 24, 2018 5:37 PM
There was one in the 90s but probably a different character.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 28 December 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link
GOD DAMN this was TREMENDOUS. this is EXACTLY what a comic book movie should be.
only niggle, which is common to pretty much all movies and tv now, is that everything happens so fast you forget what just came before. there's v little time to actually process anything. but my lord, the benday dots and shading and absurdly abstract climax - cars and buildings and trains and the brooklyn bridge all floating by in a swirling, howling matrix of dots and colours, all to be used as background and leverage and weapon. utterly insane.
my 7-y-o says, pausing over a burrito afterwards, "it was all about the promise he makes to peter parker." and i thought god damn, lord and miller would bottle that moment if they could and put it on their mantelpiece.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 29 December 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link
It really is that good. Kinda expect to see this being a year zero moment way more than anything around it -- just give it a few years.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 December 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
i don't think I've ever seen anything like it, outside of loony tunes. the anarchy and physical delight of it.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 29 December 2018 22:13 (five years ago) link
Agreed that this is the standard to which superhero movies should set themselves. I’d take something of this caliber over any live action adaptation for what it’s worth.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 29 December 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link
- bagel -
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 30 December 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link
it turns out 'make pretend real' wasn't it
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 30 December 2018 02:37 (five years ago) link
were the backgrounds and foregrounds supposed to be deeply off-register at times or should i bug the theater about a refund for showing the 3D version during the 2D showing?
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 30 December 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link
Yes that was an intentional choice to interpret depth of field through a “misregistration” effect. Theatrical 3D uses polarization not colored lenses. (NB I thought this effect was very cool.)
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Sunday, 30 December 2018 05:08 (five years ago) link
i had the same thought! the fact they were able to make choices that bold is frankly a goddamn Christmas miracle imo
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 30 December 2018 09:09 (five years ago) link
there is something else that annoys me, not a big deal, but hang on for an extremely Old Lunch post. i too have read a screenwriting book or two, and there is a moment in this movie which is commonly known as All Is Lost - miles is imprisoned by super-strong spidey string to a chair, his powers deemed too immature for him to participate in the Final Mission; he is unable to make good on his promise to peter parker. everything has stopped, the movie is going to happen without him. now typically what happens here is the hero has to realise some fundamental truth about themselves in order to tap into their real power - they have to stop fighting fate, or realize they're actually in love, or whatever. once the key to their own personal conflict has been turned they're able to advance to the public conflict of the A-story. this little turn has been used so many times in so many movies that we're primed for it, even if just subconsciously. so it almost no longer even needs to make any sense, in a way. it just needs to be there. and in this movie it just sort of seemed to be there without making much sense. Miles' dad shows up, knocking at his door. to tell him that.. he's hard on him because he loves him! but.. we knew that! miles knew it! his dad even hailed him on the patrol car's loudspeaker to tell him he loved him, in front of all his new classmates (fantastic scene by the way!) I guess you could say that Miles doesn't in fact CONFIDE in his dad - he saves that for his uncle. that's a key that could be turned here, maybe. but miles doesn't (can't, in fact - his mouth's stopped up!) So his dad just.. leaves? but the box has been ticked - Miles now digs deep and can turn on his electricity powers and we're off. i mean.. not a huge deal but it is the pivot on which Miles' story turns and it's pro forma.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 30 December 2018 10:04 (five years ago) link
lol okay my 7-y-o has set me straight on this. Miles WANTS to confide in his dad but he can't because his mouth is stopped up and it makes him so mad that he is able to use his powers, like the Hulk!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 30 December 2018 10:23 (five years ago) link
broke my superhero movie ban for this and dammit i'm glad i did. an absolute feast for the eyes. i mean in a year where isle of dogs and mandy both came out...idk they're all spectacular in completely different ways, unforgettably bold.
while this film maybe missed a couple of storytelling beats in its rush to be a literal comic book, it really is the best representation of the form i can imagine having existed on screen thus far. it couldn't have put any more thought, effort or love into its desire to do the form justice. it makes me want to read marvel comics and that coming from me is nearly heresy
let's talk about phil lord (and christopher miller) (but mostly phil lord). the dude wrote this and i think his script and story allowed the perfect pacing and space for the visuals to build to their jaw-gaping climax, which was kind of like cloudy with a chance of meatballs turned up to fifteen - he's always wanted to make this exact spectacle and now he has (as producer/writer - i'm v interested to find out more about the actual direction team)
i've wanted to start a lord/miller thread for a while. i'm obv v cynical about superhero movies and hollywood spectacles and such but they are YET TO MAKE A BAD FILM - they absolutely nail it every time. i think they and lord especially are the preeminent geniuses of the actionverse right now. they have some very repeatable but always laudable tropes. they are single-handedly responsible for making cops cool again. i mean they're doing amazing work presenting their idea what the police could and should be - strong, fatherly, responsible, moral, balanced. so yeah they love cops, sure, but they mostly love good fathering. idk i'm rambling here. cops as servants rather than corrupt powerbrokers. it's a fantasy maybe but they own it so well. stop me ffs
also all their scripts are on point
― imago, Monday, 31 December 2018 00:12 (five years ago) link
again, the greatest technical achievement to date in computer animation
Things to notice: 🕷️ Both Miles & Peter are animated on 2's (12 poses/sec), while the scene was rendered on 1's (24 frames/sec). So even though they're frozen for two frames, they are moving within the frame. 🕷️ They are on animated 2's, but offset from each other. 🕷️ Bagel!!! pic.twitter.com/V64n8cRffT— Todd Vaziri (@tvaziri) January 2, 2019
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:38 (five years ago) link
there's more stuff in the thread on this single shot. The offset 2s are wild as heck
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:39 (five years ago) link
haha man I didn't notice all that stuff but I was conscious that there was a lot of deep animated juju going on even if i didn't know exactly what it was. the off-register depth-of-field effect, the stop-motion style stuff. felt bristly and alive and all times.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link
I think the first was rendered at 2K, I didn't bother buying the 4K disc for that reason. The second certainly needs 4K!
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 18 June 2023 01:31 (one year ago) link
Amazing.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 18 June 2023 02:16 (one year ago) link
Pretty impressive (and detailed) list of comics references in the movie: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-easter-eggs-list-1235506838/
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Sunday, 18 June 2023 02:19 (one year ago) link
I think the new villain was responsible for the spider getting across, as part of the research for the Kingpin - the whole thing about him and Miles having the same origin.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 18 June 2023 04:49 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I thought that was it… but how did he happen to grab this random radioactive spider (that was meant to bite someone else)? Or was it more like – when you monkey around w/ the Spider-Verse, you’re gonna mess up something Spider-y… and this is the form it took.
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Sunday, 18 June 2023 04:53 (one year ago) link
My takeaway from the movie was that they explicitly grabbed the spider as part of testing the collider
― Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Sunday, 18 June 2023 04:58 (one year ago) link
the third one was represented by Donald Glover as the Prowler, who of course that's who he is in Homecoming
I assumed this was a capper to the Community S02e01 joke (which I regret to inform us all is from thirteen years ago)
― serving bundt (sic), Sunday, 18 June 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link
Surprised Cindy Moon (Silk) wasn’t involved at all; she’s a pretty major modern Spider-character. Maybe b/c they’re developing her own thing…
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Sunday, 18 June 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
the only disappointment for me was lack of Spider Pig
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 18 June 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link
he was there very briefly near the end
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 18 June 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link
I have a feeling we’ll have returning and new characters next time.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 18 June 2023 20:01 (one year ago) link
yeah the crew gwen was assembling at the end included all the spider-people from the first movie iirc
― rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 18 June 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link
I was thinking that one reason they may shy away from Silk is that her story (in the comics, anyway) sort of goes against the movie's concept that every Spider-person needs to lose one or more ppl close to them as inspiration; and also that there can only apparently be one Spider-person per universe (although I don't know if the movie actually says that's a rule, or if I'm making it up). Her origin & background are also heavily tied up with the comics' version of the "Spider-Verse" and related concepts, which the movie doesn't f with.
All that said, they apparently got around the same points w/Jess Drew by just using an alternate version...
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Monday, 19 June 2023 15:03 (one year ago) link
(The first two points, I mean... Jess's backstory in the comix isn't tied into the Spider-Verse, it's just weird as hell.)
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Monday, 19 June 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link
Going thru the soundtrack album (Metro Boomin Presents Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (Soundtrack from and Inspired by the Motion Picture)) is somehow a lot less pleasing than encountering/experiencing the music in the movie itself... but at least I was able to identify / add-to-playlist the track that plays throughout the opening Spider-Gwen sequence ("Self-Love," by Metro Boomin & Coi Leray). Its use was so perfect, I thought...
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Monday, 19 June 2023 23:39 (one year ago) link
sounds like this thing was a nightmare to work onAccording to people who worked on the sequel, Across the Spider-Verse, it’s because the working conditions required to produce such artistry are not sustainable. Multiple Across the Spider-Verse crew members — ranging from artists to production executives who have worked anywhere from five to a dozen years in the animation business — describe the process of making the the $150 million Sony project as uniquely arduous, involving a relentless kind of revisionism that compelled approximately 100 artists to flee the movie before its completion. Four of these crew members agreed to speak pseudonymously about the sprint to finish the movie three years into the sequel’s development and production, a period whose franticness they attribute to Lord’s management style — in particular, his seeming inability to conceptualize 3-D animation during the early planning stages and his preference to edit fully rendered work instead.https://www.vulture.com/2023/06/spider-verse-animation-four-artists-on-making-the-sequel.html
― rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 June 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link
also seems unlikely reading this that part two is gonna hit its release date
― rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 June 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link
So apparently there are multiple (slightly) different versions of this in theatres now?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 June 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link
I only heard about a version with an updated sound mix (which I assumed we would’ve gotten at the late date we saw it, but some of the dialogue was pretty muddy).
― Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Saturday, 24 June 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link
I was wondering when people might start noticing… https://t.co/E6G9tUXmDE— Andy! Leviton (@AlliterAndy) June 23, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 June 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link
Saw this last night with the crusty sound mix. I enjoyed the film but damn if there ain’t a lot of it
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 25 June 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
Saw this yesterday, and it was great. I did feel like it dragged in places towards the end (too many action set-pieces of all things), but the emotional scenes are extremely potent.
The cliffhanger ending where Gwen's drum solo shows up on the soundtrack again was OMG, A+++++.
― Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Monday, 26 June 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link
I wouldn't normally watch an 18-minute (or even 8-minute) YouTube video; but my kid showed me this, and it's really well done – the guy tackles a big plot element of the movie that didn't really make sense for me either, and goes for a grand No-Prize explanation that seems right on target (guess we'll find out in the third movie):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ESxmyDnTms
― Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Sunday, 16 July 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link
I blame you, bg! j/k
“Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse,” the third film in the blockbuster Lord and Miller animated franchise, has been undated. It was meant to open March 29, 2024. Due to union’s work stoppage orders, the voice cast cannot complete dialogue recording in time for the spring opening, said a Sony source. A new date is expected in the coming weeks.
― Albert Canoe (Leee), Saturday, 29 July 2023 21:06 (one year ago) link
honestly, good, maybe they won't give the animators as many lashes this time
― Nhex, Sunday, 30 July 2023 01:57 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ90GIuawAo
Navel gazing that I'm here for.
― Anna Kendrick Lamar Odom (Leee), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:46 (one year ago) link
Like it's genuinely kinda beautiful.
― Anna Kendrick Lamar Odom (Leee), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:47 (one year ago) link
That was surprisingly great!
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link
Coming to Netflix on Halloween: https://deadline.com/2023/10/spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-digital-release-date-netflix-1235575546/
― Iguodalai Lama (Leee), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:14 (ten months ago) link
Do we have a thread for discussing "Sony's Spider-Man Universe (SSU)," and specifically this new Madame Web movie? Thx
― Phair · Jagger/Richards · Carl Perkins (morrisp), Thursday, 16 November 2023 01:08 (ten months ago) link
One of Dr. Morbius's many gifts to our community is making it impossible to find anything on the Jared Leto film.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:14 (ten months ago) link
Free-to-stream Spider-Verse short on YT tomorrow!
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/the-spider-within-a-spider-verse-story-when-and-where-to-stream-the-short-film/
― Astarion Is Born (Leee), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:20 (five months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcGPpwFdE1Y
― 龜, Saturday, 30 March 2024 22:34 (five months ago) link
I still don't know what they thought, not releasing this movie in the relevant territories as Kilometers Morales.
― StanM, Sunday, 31 March 2024 00:07 (five months ago) link