US Politics December 2018: ~very legal and very cool~

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i know we have google and all but its more fun to ask here and get more creative answers please what is the malaise speech

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)

In 1979 Carter convened a meeting of elites (writers, thinkers, economists) on a mountain, came down off it (really, the jokes write themselves if you're George Will), and deliverd a televised address in which he said we faced a "crisis of confidence" stemming from a decade of assassinations, the Vietnam War, Watergate, and so on. To this day I don't know what the hell was wrong with it other than that Carter is a zero as a public speaker (I remember him balling his fists at one point; he looked like Mark Hamil acting tough).

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:40 (seven years ago)

What went wrong was that Carter didn't say "USA #1." xp

From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:46 (seven years ago)

The whole thing (33 minutes!) is here:

https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/presidential-speeches/july-15-1979-crisis-confidence-speech

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)

I've tried to imagine JFK's 'ask not...' bit being delivered today without the utterer getting pelted with tomatoes, can't do it.

For a superlative chug, only the eggiest nog will do! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)

that 'malaise' speech was super popular at the time, but when Carter started firing cabinet members a few weeks later the press marked it as the beginning of the crisis of his presidency

President Keyes, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)

there's a good relentless picnic episode about carter and what his whole deal was

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)

https://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/bn1a9jq9g0qlldcnggvpea.png

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)

our crisis of confidence....
*balls up fists*
must be transformed into patriotic righteousness https://i.imgur.com/c9yRzgC.jpg?1

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:54 (seven years ago)

I might be interested in a serious biography of Carter. Is there a good one?

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:54 (seven years ago)

One published this year.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)

This one.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)

the nascent conservative outrage machine really did a number turning it into the equivalent of 'Dems just hating America i guess'

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)

that's not a bad book Al but it's hard to call it a "serious biography" given that it was written by one of his high level staffers. It's a decent read tho.

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:01 (seven years ago)

I had no idea he was an undersecretary of commerce or whatever. You read it then?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)

guess Manafort got let out

Moments after a a Pennsylvania man was released from custody, police say he stole a car in the jail's parking lot. https://t.co/sKiHhDfADu #odd

— AP Oddities (@AP_Oddities) December 5, 2018

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:20 (seven years ago)

Yeah read it out of curiosity, a friend of mine in the hood gave it to me.

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:24 (seven years ago)

(hood = neighborhood)

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:24 (seven years ago)

If i had done 1/10th of what she did .....
& he's not getting time?

Cheerleader for jailtime for non-criminals not getting time seems a little unjust surely?

Stevolende, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:35 (seven years ago)

don't let us down, Philly

Politico reports:

President Donald Trump will attend the Army-Navy football game Saturday in Philadelphia, the White House told reporters on Wednesday.

Trump attended the game between the two military academies in 2016 as president-elect. He tweeted in 2017 that he would watch the game remotely, thanking the two branches for their service. President Barack Obama attended the game in 2011.

Sitting presidents have routinely made appearances at the games, and they traditionally switch sides of the field at halftime.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:48 (seven years ago)

as long as hillary is free, all of us are in chains. Xp

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:51 (seven years ago)

psyched to see trump get pelted with batteries tbh

We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:33 (seven years ago)

He should parachute in!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:55 (seven years ago)

Just like he trained for in Vietohwait.

From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:05 (seven years ago)

i bet one of the only things trump is good at is farting

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:37 (seven years ago)

one might say it's his manaforte

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 23:16 (seven years ago)

Dems' national lead in House votes just surpassed 9.7 million (now 8.6%). Largest midterm raw vote margin ever; largest % margin since 1986. https://t.co/0pm7oW1pFE

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) December 6, 2018

Karl Malone, Thursday, 6 December 2018 01:53 (seven years ago)

I really don't care one way or the other if someone says or doesn't say a prayer at a funeral, but imagine the avalanche of "He's a Muslim!" shit we'd have to sit through if Obama had been the one to not recite the Apostles' Creed during a Presidential Funeral.

akm, Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:21 (seven years ago)

Carter's lite Reaganism is too depressing to write an entire book about.

Good retiree, though.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:29 (seven years ago)

I lo ove satan

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:31 (seven years ago)

Oops rong thred

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:32 (seven years ago)

Satan is pretty fucking cool I admit. My watching of 5 episodes of the new Sabrina have convinced me.

akm, Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:34 (seven years ago)

A suprisingly thorough story, given the source, about how Bill Nelson lost just enough Hispanic voters.. Worth the read.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:09 (seven years ago)

Twice I flipped channels to NPR today, and both times weren't they just yammering on about how ex-presidential deaths do wonders to the unite the country. This struck me as some bullshit. But is it historically true? Even if so, isn't it a little farfetched in 2018?

davey, Thursday, 6 December 2018 05:03 (seven years ago)

it unites the ruling class

21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 6 December 2018 05:06 (seven years ago)

I'm literally vomiting with rage imagining A) all the fawning headlines that'll be run when Trump dies and B) Obama's inevitable "now he and I have had some differences *pause for light laughter*, but..." speech

on the plus side that fucker will be dead

frogbs, Thursday, 6 December 2018 05:06 (seven years ago)

It made me pukey too

davey, Thursday, 6 December 2018 05:22 (seven years ago)

If the ruling class includes the legislative and executive branches, then I'm not holding my breath for unity. In fact, I can't imagine unity would be a good thing while half the people in power are basically cartoon villains.

davey, Thursday, 6 December 2018 05:25 (seven years ago)

With any luck we won't have to wait long for Trump's own giant waste of federal money.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 6 December 2018 05:49 (seven years ago)

Couldn't we bury him now and save time and stress about fitting it in later?

Stevolende, Thursday, 6 December 2018 11:16 (seven years ago)

it unites the ruling class

the only people who count

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 December 2018 11:36 (seven years ago)

(or get counted)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 December 2018 11:36 (seven years ago)

Dump Pence!

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/mike-pence-2020-mueller-trump

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 December 2018 11:46 (seven years ago)

I thought Pence was a Milquetoast with a poor reputation that would only have been picked by Trump in the first place so would be unlikely to be much of an anything if standing on his own in a Presidential race

Stevolende, Thursday, 6 December 2018 12:07 (seven years ago)

well, good morning!

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2018 12:08 (seven years ago)

“Look at how he’s been. It’s presidential,” a former West Wing aide said.

the standards, they are low

Bênoit Balls (stevie), Thursday, 6 December 2018 12:21 (seven years ago)

Technically speaking, it's accurate. Incoherently rage tweeting on the shitter is now presidential.

For a superlative chug, only the eggiest nog will do! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 December 2018 12:59 (seven years ago)

wtf i'm presidential now

We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:18 (seven years ago)


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