US Politics December 2018: ~very legal and very cool~

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counterpoint: there is no long term

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:56 (seven years ago)

If they ram this through, do the Dems have enough legislative votes to reverse it next year?

WmC, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:56 (seven years ago)

i feel like this is exactly the type of move that feels good in the present but will backfire on them

omar little, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:59 (seven years ago)

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/419527-exclusive-consumer-bureau-analysis-says-name-change-could-cost-firms-300

tl;dr mick mulvaney wants to change the name of the CFPB to "BCFP". the adminstative burden of this will cost banks $300m. cry me a river, but these administration people are so weird (as well as stupid).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)

If they ram this through, do the Dems have enough legislative votes to reverse it next year?

No. If that were the case, there would be no point. The idea is that thanks to the current district lines, which among other things fold large chunks of (Democratic) Milwaukee county into hard-red suburban districts, Dems would have to win the statewide vote by 8 points or so in order to get an Assembly majority. That's more than Walker ever won by. The legislature is trying to grab power for itself because it's the only branch of the government that's successfully immunized itself from public anger.
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Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:06 (seven years ago)

xp arbitrarily changing the names of things and other twiddling is an economic stimulus/job creation tactic, surely

mh, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:12 (seven years ago)

it’s a ‘desperately trying to look busy’ tactic, sure

We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:17 (seven years ago)

Not much different than corporations reconfiguring initiatives and retitling divisions in order to highlight new executive 'achievements'.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)

the agency doesn't match the name described in the bill, we need to make it technically correct: the best kind of correct

mh, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:19 (seven years ago)

I posted this elsewhere but might as well ask here as well, any details welcome.

It's so despicable and infuriating that we can declare a national holiday with ~24 hours notice (totally screwing over many thousands of people in the process due to disrupted mail delivery) because a vile mass murderer died, yet Election Day remains a regular workday. I would love more info about this disgusting abuse of power if people can provide details - who signed this order, how did it happen? This has Miller written all over it.

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:23 (seven years ago)

uhhhh... it’s happened every time a president’s died for awhile now.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:27 (seven years ago)

link?

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:28 (seven years ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_day_of_mourning

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)

that doesn't say anything about shutting down the government, just flags at half-mast.

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:31 (seven years ago)

I became a Fed in 2006, so I can’t speak for anything earlier than that, but I got a day off today and when Ford died.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:33 (seven years ago)

weird, there are zero details about any Ford-related shutdowns here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_state_funeral_of_Gerald_Ford

just another "National Day Of Mourning" with no details...

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)

Ah thanks, what a bunch of bullshit. My point about Election Day stands, and I can now assume that Trump ordered this directly.

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:39 (seven years ago)

Over the top In ethical behavior

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:45 (seven years ago)

wonder how different today would be if it were jimmy carter who'd died

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:48 (seven years ago)

otm

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)

national new peanut tariff day

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:51 (seven years ago)

Billy Beer suddenly flooding supermarket shelves.

For a superlative chug, only the eggiest nog will do! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:52 (seven years ago)

can't wait

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:54 (seven years ago)

billions in new funding for habitat for humanity no wait

We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)

(to finally have a Billy Beer, that is, not for Carter do die)

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)

wonder how different today would be if it were jimmy carter who'd died

In all honesty I think Carter will get a similarly loving treatment. He's far enough in the past that it's safe for Republicans to lay off him. If Obama dropped dead tomorrow, on the other hand, Trump would issue an executive order titled "Home at Last" demanding that his body be stuffed in a sack and dropped from a plane over Kenya. And half the country would describe this as "grappling with his predecessor's complicated legacy."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:36 (seven years ago)

these Nazi rapist pigs wouldn't honor Carter if you held a gun to their heads

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:39 (seven years ago)

(speculation, granted, but I stand by it)

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:39 (seven years ago)

Shakey you just need to find a really old jacket to taste that sweet sweet Billy Beer.

From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:44 (seven years ago)

it will be non-stop "malaise" and Iran hostage talk mark my words

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:52 (seven years ago)

Trump will recall the time Carter told that kid not to eat the brown acid

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:02 (seven years ago)

"He wanted us to wear sweaters indoors!"

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:05 (seven years ago)

He's far enough in the past that it's safe for Republicans to lay off him.

Safe, maybe, but they won't.

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:07 (seven years ago)

he will forever be known to anyone to the Right of, well, Carter as the Second Worst President of All Time After the Black One.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)

Democrats are so used to reflexively hating him that they'll be pressed to find one thing worth salvaging from his presidency. Instead, we'll hear a lot of guff about the "post-presidency" and surviving cancer and "the 120-year love affair between the president and Rosalynn."

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)

Look at the body language. Carter has plague.

https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/presidents.getty_.jpg?itok=bKYwFxw3

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:10 (seven years ago)

@charles_kinbote
When Carter dies people are still gonna look at the malaise speech as an error of monumental proportions but Carter was right. Our hunger for a paternal west wing style speech that changes everything, except Carter did this and was absolutely crucified for it

@pareene
It was literally the last time an American president ever actually tried to deliver "harsh but necessary truths" to the American people, or whatever cliche the sober pundit class is always pretending they want to hear. Not one has even tried since.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)

Carter has plague.

You think they're scooching away from him? That is a man fueled by a boundless love of humanity and a seething, remorseless hatred of individual humans, especially his so-called "peers."

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)

they know he has lust in his heart

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:17 (seven years ago)

i know we have google and all but its more fun to ask here and get more creative answers please what is the malaise speech

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)

In 1979 Carter convened a meeting of elites (writers, thinkers, economists) on a mountain, came down off it (really, the jokes write themselves if you're George Will), and deliverd a televised address in which he said we faced a "crisis of confidence" stemming from a decade of assassinations, the Vietnam War, Watergate, and so on. To this day I don't know what the hell was wrong with it other than that Carter is a zero as a public speaker (I remember him balling his fists at one point; he looked like Mark Hamil acting tough).

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:40 (seven years ago)

What went wrong was that Carter didn't say "USA #1." xp

From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:46 (seven years ago)

The whole thing (33 minutes!) is here:

https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/presidential-speeches/july-15-1979-crisis-confidence-speech

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)

I've tried to imagine JFK's 'ask not...' bit being delivered today without the utterer getting pelted with tomatoes, can't do it.

For a superlative chug, only the eggiest nog will do! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)

that 'malaise' speech was super popular at the time, but when Carter started firing cabinet members a few weeks later the press marked it as the beginning of the crisis of his presidency

President Keyes, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)

there's a good relentless picnic episode about carter and what his whole deal was

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)

https://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/bn1a9jq9g0qlldcnggvpea.png

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)

our crisis of confidence....
*balls up fists*
must be transformed into patriotic righteousness https://i.imgur.com/c9yRzgC.jpg?1

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:54 (seven years ago)


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