US Politics December 2018: ~very legal and very cool~

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He's arguing this may portend another crash and the '06 op-ed was myopic.

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:33 (seven years ago)

I suppose if one predicts a correction and/or crash it will eventually happen, esp. since it hasn't happened for a while, but I suppose that is a more specific warning.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:38 (seven years ago)

kind of comprehensible explainer

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-12-03/u-s-yield-curve-just-inverted-that-s-huge

i don't think anyone predicting a recession next year is out on a limb at this point

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:46 (seven years ago)

not quite a canary in the coal mine.. article I read said something like 'a recession has followed within 6-24 months'

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:48 (seven years ago)

When were folks first talking about an inversion curve? A year ago? A quick google found some predictions Dec. 2017 that the inversion curve could arrive in the next year, and another article from the previous summer that predicted it by the end of that year, 2017. So I suppose people have been seeing this coming for at least a year and a half. And now it's year, and a recession could be another 2 years off. Or sooner. Who knows? It's about time, probably.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)

not quite a canary in the coal mine.. article I read said something like 'a recession has followed within 6-24 months'

― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, December 4, 2018 9:48 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pal of mine today said 'so this means we can expect a recession sometime between this year and the heat death of the sun'

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 22:02 (seven years ago)

you can bank on it.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 22:11 (seven years ago)

Hrm.

NEW: DOJ inspector general's office released a report finding a now-former senior DOJ official sexually assaulted and sexually harassed women working for him — no criminal prosecution, the official retired, he isn't named https://t.co/34C5yg55om pic.twitter.com/Llc5SvVm4W

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) December 4, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 22:29 (seven years ago)

Stone took the fifth?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 22:54 (seven years ago)

Is that pretty much an admission of guilt?

Can't testify because it would be self incrimination?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 23:02 (seven years ago)

An admission of guilt, yes. But, crucially, it is not evidence of guilt.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 23:06 (seven years ago)

p sure Mueller has evidence of his guilt at this point

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 23:13 (seven years ago)

evidence of guilt doesn't mean it will win in court or even get an indictment

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 23:18 (seven years ago)

YALL LAWYERS HUH

ian, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 23:20 (seven years ago)

oh no, the poor staff at weekly standard!!

The fate of The Weekly Standard, the conservative magazine that has staked out a position as a publication on the right still critical of President Donald Trump, is uncertain, Editor-in-Chief Stephen Hayes told staff in a series of phone calls Tuesday, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The magazine's precarious position comes after its leadership spent months searching for a buyer, the people told CNN.

The people explained that The Weekly Standard's leadership had butted heads with MediaDC, the current publisher of the magazine, and that the two parties had agreed to allow Hayes to search for a new owner.

However, MediaDC recently informed The Weekly Standard's leadership that the company was no longer interested in a sale, the people said.

Instead, Ryan McKibben, the chairman of MediaDC, asked to meet with Hayes in a meeting tentatively scheduled for late next week, the people said. McKibben, they said, also requested the entire staff of The Weekly Standard be made available following the meeting.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/04/media/weekly-standard-future-uncertain/index.html

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 23:55 (seven years ago)

CNN saying Flynn report within the hour.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:15 (seven years ago)

They also said Don Jr would be indicted two weeks ago.

ian, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:16 (seven years ago)

In this case, the report has to come out by the end of the day, so.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:17 (seven years ago)

Yes, yes, yes.

ian, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:18 (seven years ago)

why would anything come out now, surely most feds knocked off hours ago for the free day off tomorrow

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:26 (seven years ago)

Precisely. (Per a tweet I linked above, it can be filed into PACER at any point during the day.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:40 (seven years ago)

So where is this Flynn shit? Is there perhaps a behind the scenes legal challenge to its release?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:29 (seven years ago)

Filing has arrived!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:32 (seven years ago)

Mueller on Flynn: "Given the defendant’s substantial assistance and other considerations set
forth below, a sentence at the low end of the guideline range—including a sentence that does not impose a term of incarceration—is appropriate and warranted."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:34 (seven years ago)

Flynn memo drops (for real) as @renato_mariotti and I are recording his podcast. Main memo: 7 pages. Portion about cooperation: 6 pages, heavily redacted.

— ScottFreeHat (@Popehat) December 5, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:35 (seven years ago)

This fits with what Marcy Wheeler and others were figuring -- not much detail, redaction due to a lot more going on involving others.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:35 (seven years ago)

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592.46.0.pdf

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:40 (seven years ago)

Does not seem to be redacted?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:41 (seven years ago)

Oh, I see:

Because the Addendum includes sensitive information about ongoing investigations, the government is seeking to partially seal the Addendum, and has filed publicly a redacted version of the document that excludes the sensitive information.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:42 (seven years ago)

General detail

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/michael-flynn-robert-mueller-fbi-sentencing-prison

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:42 (seven years ago)

Redacted addendum:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5425878-Gov-Uscourts-Dcd-191592-46-1-2.html

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:47 (seven years ago)

Lmao

pomo american flag vibes pic.twitter.com/Ibp2VNlHBJ

— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) December 5, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:53 (seven years ago)

Trump's gonna be like "no jail time, see, Flynnocent!"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:56 (seven years ago)

Looks like Flynn aided three investigations: REDACTED criminal investigation, the Mueller probe and REDACTED. Even the subject header of the third is redacted in the full document. pic.twitter.com/nvCJKZAFGr

— Philip Bump (@pbump) December 5, 2018

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:01 (seven years ago)

Oh. Oh my. https://t.co/nn6BBW8jiZ pic.twitter.com/tjcsNdTfgP

— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) December 5, 2018

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:05 (seven years ago)

what's the cliff's notes

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:24 (seven years ago)

"don't lock him up"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:24 (seven years ago)

Three separate investigations Flynn helped with, he talked a hell of a lot via 19 meetings, Mueller recommending only probation time = Flynn named a lot of names.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:25 (seven years ago)

My favorite part of all of this has been ashley feinberg constantly monitoring donald trump jr on twitter but she doesn’t seem to do that as much anymore idk. Something so soothing about hate-watching the hapless sons for a sec, like I’d love to see some flynn jr highlights of late but not enough to actually seek him out on social media.

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:35 (seven years ago)

what are the odds--i need numbers--that mueller has found, in looking into all of this stuff, not just to do with "contact with the russians," some crime that trump committed that would people would find legitimately shocking?

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:36 (seven years ago)

ashley feinberg is an american treasure

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:36 (seven years ago)

ashley feinberg is an american treasure


otm

gbx, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:42 (seven years ago)

At this point i feel like proof of trump’s erectile dysfunction would make more of a dent among his supporters than an actual homicide coming to light.

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:44 (seven years ago)

If it came out that he was ever with a man (extremely unlikely but you never know) that would take him down for sure.

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:48 (seven years ago)

A horse doesn't seem entirely out of the question.

Mom's out working, for fulfillment (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 03:02 (seven years ago)

what are the odds--i need numbers--that mueller has found, in looking into all of this stuff, not just to do with "contact with the russians," some crime that trump committed that would people would find legitimately shocking?

― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, December 4, 2018 6:36 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 03:03 (seven years ago)

Meanwhile in Wisconsin, nobody knows what the hell is going on; both Assembly and Senate formally in session, I believe, but they are not in the chamber, nobody knows what's being negotiated, apparently a lot of health care industry lobbyists are floating around and there's some speculation that they're telling the GOP there will be hell to pay if they actually pass their bill saying that every single health care policy change has to be approved by the legislature (this is meant to keep evers from rescinding walker's stepped-up bureaucratic obstacles to Medicaid enrollment but like everything else in this hash of a bill it was not prepared with a lot of attention to detail.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 03:08 (seven years ago)

Original plan was to pass this at about 2am (you can see why!) but we are way behind the posted schedule

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 03:09 (seven years ago)

we should do a 'most fucked up state politically' poll

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 03:13 (seven years ago)

I get it now. They're bringing back the coal jobs so they don't run of things that produce black marks for sentencing memo redactions.

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 03:15 (seven years ago)


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