This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2018

AFI's Top 10...

“BlacKkKlansman”
“Black Panther”
“Eighth Grade”
“If Beale Street Could Talk”
“The Favourite”
“First Reformed”
“Green Book”
“Mary Poppins Returns”
“A Quiet Place”
“A Star Is Born”

not bad

I didn't, I couldn't take Oscar bloggers seriously when they started crowing about Mary Poppins 2. I should've known.

xp let's agree to disagree

I didn't see Black Panther but seems high

wtf is Mary Poppins 2

Tho I am starting to truly think the girl in Eighth Grade will land Glenn Close's slot now.

I didn't see A Quiet Place either, looked stupid. everything else on there is good. I mean, I'm assuming Beale Street is gonna be cool.

I keep getting confused between A Quiet Place and Leave No Trace. The latter is supposed to be very good.

Yes.

Mary Poppins 2 is a sequel to Mrs Doubtfire

Did you review it, Al? xp

Leave No Trace is very good

Nope, but I recommend it. I prefer it to Winter's Bone.

Leave No Trace is probably the best movie made yet about Iraq/Afghanistan PTSD

Not only have the nominations for one Golden Globes category been announced, but so has the winner!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Globe_Award_for_Best_Actress_%E2%80%93_Motion_Picture_Comedy_or_Musical

Re: The John Waters list and a few comments upthread...

Jeannette was one of the worst films I have ever seen. I don't think I have ever felt such regret at not having walked out of a movie. Everything about it is simply intolerable. Not only did I hate it but I have a hard time believing anyone could like it (I can imagine someone liking a 10-15 minute short version, but the gag stales very quickly).

I saw it because I have a thing about seeing every movie about Joan of Arc. I watched the trailer and was fairly warned. But that still didn't prepare me for the endless pain of seeing it through.

thank you for the warning!

xp that wikipedia entry is hilarious

Burning was not only good, it surprised me so much, it's stuck with me so hard, all the images, absolutely haunting performances, it's my favorite of the director's films, it may be my favorite of the year, I was stunned!

Shirkers, which is on Netflix, is going to end up being one of my favorite films of the year. An uncommonly fascinating and moving documentary.

all the many Joan of Arc films I've seen are at least good (even Rivette's), but i'm unsurprised that Dumont wd break the streak.

Shirkers, which is on Netflix, is going to end up being one of my favorite films of the year. An uncommonly fascinating and moving documentary.

― Chris L

Watching it tonighit.

NYT crix top 10s:

Manohla Dargis

01. Roma
02. Burning
03. Shoplifters
04. Zama
05. Happy As Lazzaro
06. BlacKkKlansman
07. First Reformed
08. The Death of Stalin
09. Monrovia, Indiana
10. Colophon (for the Arboretum Cycle)

A.O. Scott

01. Monrovia, Indiana; Bisbee '17; Hale County This Morning, This Evening; Minding the Gap (tie)
02. Happy As Lazzaro
03. First Reformed
04. Private Life
05. Roma
06. Let the Sunshine In
07. Can You Ever Forgive Me?
08. BlacKkKlansman
09. Capernaum
10. The Favourite

Would have rather seen A.O. Scott commit to a mostly-doc list.

Zama at last

It's on my list, whenever that gets finished (2023).

Let the Sunshine In at last

Bisbee '17 at last

Sunshine also on my list, whenever that gets finished (it won't).

Sunshine never left my list (first and last time you'll see any version of this sentence).

Oscar VFX finalists:

Ant-Man and the Wasp
Aquaman
Avengers: Infinity War
Black Panther
Bumblebee
Christopher Robin
Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald
First Man
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dog
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
Mary Poppins Returns
Mission: Impossible – Fallout
Mortal Engines
The Nutcracker and the Four Realms
Paddington 2
A Quiet Place
Ready Player One
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Welcome to Marwen

First Man
Paddington 2

burn the rest

Golden Globe noms announced in a few

They snubbed Roma in every category but foreign film! Your kinda people, Soto!

Also the line between Ethan Hawke winning everything and Ethan Hawke never getting mentioned again this detrius season.

While people are transcribing the nominations, here's one more top 10 list, from Vanity Fair's K Austin Collins:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/12/10-best-movies-2018-k-austin-collins

#1 ... First Reformed

Robert Redford, The Old Man and the Gun

John C. Reilly, Stan & Ollie

what

Best Motion Picture – Drama

Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
If Beale Street Could Talk
A Star Is Born

Best Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy

Crazy Rich Asians
The Favorite
Green Book
Mary Poppins Returns
Vice

Best Motion Picture – Animated

Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Mirai
Ralph Breaks the Internet
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Best Motion Picture – Foreign Language

Capernaum
Girl
Never Look Away
Roma
Shoplifters

Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture – Drama

Glenn Close, The Wife
Lady Gaga, A Star is Born
Nicole Kidman, Destroyer
Melissa McCarthy, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Rosamund Pike, A Private War

Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture – Drama

Bradley Cooper, A Star is Born
Willem Dafoe, At Eternity's Gate
Lucas Hedges, Boy Erased
Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody
John David Washington, BlacKkKlansman

Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy

Emily Blunt, Mary Poppins Returns
Olivia Colman, The Favourite
Elsie Fisher, Eighth Grade
Charlize Theron, Tully
Constance Wu, Crazy Rich Asians

Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy

Christian Bale, Vice
Lin-Manuel Miranda, Mary Poppins Returns
Viggo Mortensen, Green Book
Robert Redford, The Old Man and the Gun
John C. Reilly, Stan & Ollie

Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in any Motion Picture

Amy Adams, Vice
Claire Foy, First Man
Regina King, If Beale Street Could Talk
Emma Stone, The Favourite
Rachel Weiss, The Favourite

Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in any Motion Picture

Mahershala Ali, Green Book
Timothee Chalamet, Beautiful Boy
Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Sam Rockwell, Vice
Adam Driver, BlacKkKlansman

Best Director – Motion Picture

Bradley Cooper, A Star is Born
Alfonso Cuaron, Roma
Peter Farrelly, Green Book
Spike Lee, BlacKkKlansman
Adam McKay, Vice

Best Screenplay – Motion Picture

Roma
The Favourite
If Beale Street Could Talk
Vice
Green Book

Best Original Score – Motion Picture

A Quiet Place
Isle Of Dogs
Black Panther
First Man
Mary Poppins Returns

Best Original Song – Motion Picture

“All The Stars,” Black Panther
“Girl in the Movies,” Dumplin’
“Requiem For A Private War,” A Private War
"Revelation," Boy Erased
“Shallow,” A Star Is Born

what

see also: Bohemian Rhapsody in best drama picture (which ensures the Globes will get way higher ratings than the Oscars this year)

(I was wrong, Roma is in two other categories.)

Best Motion Picture – Drama

Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
If Beale Street Could Talk
A Star Is Born

FYI, A Star is Born is going to defeat four films starring non-white actors.

Chalamet and Weisz in supporting? Fabulous category fraud. Guess they figure it'll help their Oscar chances.

Glad to see Theron mentioned at least (McCarthy too).

happy to not see cold war

I saw it again on Tuesday to confirm its vaporousness.

Publicists have determined that Weisz and Stone are supporting in The Favourite and Colman is lead, instead of the other way around. Guess they think Gaga is winning either way.

by my reckoning Weisz is on screen longer than Colman, but I don't hold stopwatches up either.

I saw it again on Tuesday to confirm its vaporousness.

I admire the commitment.

A whole lot of Bs in the best drama category

haven't seen it and not a lanthimos fan, but colman's run on peep show >> basically every oscar winning performance,so glad they've gone that route

xp what I've also seen people mention in the past is that, in cases where screen time is basically equal, class/status tends to come into play, along with in Brokeback's case, top/bottom status

Seeing The Favourite tonight or tomorrow but yeah the way that literal character hierarchy has apparently translated into performance category hierarchy seems to be pretty transparent

(and hilarious)