US Politics December 2018: ~very legal and very cool~

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7 of 9 was actually a lady borg.

ian, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

I'm sorry I keep saying this but I really implore you to pay attention to and talk about with your non-Midwestern the foul package the Wisconsin legislature is trying to pass today; they lost the governor's race, the attorney general race, and the statewide popular assembly vote race, but hold a legislative majority thanks to gerrymandered district lines and plan to use it to block the campaign promises the new governor ran on and that Wisconsin voted for. Focusing on the marquee national races and ignoring state legislatures is how we got into this mess.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/12/03/5-senators-spotlight-opponents-try-stop-lame-duck-bill/2189439002/

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

I'm happy it's gotten some topline national attention too.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

I have a family member in the state senate up there in WI that I’m pretty sure is supporting that crap. Shameful crybabies.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

absolutely delighted to report that it isn't just the USPS that's shutting down tomorrow, it's most of the fed. which means, in my case, that the people that are supposed to be getting my employment package sorted out for a monday start date will be downing tools, and that there's a chance I'll have to wait another month to begin my new job. anyway fuck george bush

gbx, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link

Man, it's like a GOP dream come true to fuck the day up for an entire country without even having to be alive to do it.

Mom's out working, for fulfillment (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link

Meantime, remember this guy?

Steve Bannon will no longer be speaking at a UM, the latest event to be cancelled after the announcement he would be a keynote speaker at a joint conference on sex robots this month. https://t.co/7mqwD26h9H pic.twitter.com/u2i3iC0V81

— Montana Kaimin (@MontanaKaimin) December 4, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

“join conference on sex robots”

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

*joint

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

Either way, what a terrible world

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

wow the future is so bright I gotta wear shades

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link

actual lizard person

Number None, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

I assume he's being presented as a tacit argument against sex with humans.

Mom's out working, for fulfillment (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

I don't know, man. We're really missing something if we don't hear out the alt-right position on sex robots.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

Make Androids Rammable Again

Mom's out working, for fulfillment (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

G is for 'rammable' I guess (probably shouldn't've had that fourth martini at lunch)

Mom's out working, for fulfillment (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

As a Fed, I got the day off tomorrow for National Day of Mourning George H. W. Bush. I shall spend it posting to ILX. I’m sure that’s what Bush would’ve wanted.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

I thought they were delaying shutdown due to Bush death

akm, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

The agency’s attorneys again asked Messitte for a stay Friday, in the hope that the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit would intervene.

so is this gonna go to the SC?

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link

WHERE THE HELL'S MY FLYNN SENTENCING MEMO?!

WmC, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

Note to eager journalists and court-followers:

One of the primary benefits of federal practice with PACER is that you e-file your brief any time you want, up to 11:59 p.m. on the due date if you like living on the edge.

Season your anticipation accordingly.

— ScottFreeHat (@Popehat) December 4, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

WmC, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

Lede:

Following a briefing by CIA director Gina Haspel Tuesday on the murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi, leading Republican senators told reporters that there was "zero question" that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the brutal murder.

From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link

doesn't matter, tbh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

this is exactly the kind of thing "serious" Senators love, the opportunity to do some self-righteous moral grandstanding for the cameras that they know has no hope of affecting any kind of actual outcome, legislative or otherwise

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

as a former intellectual property paralegal I've filed like 30 briefs at 11:58 at night and it fucking sucks

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

Following a briefing by CIA director Gina Haspel Tuesday on the murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi, leading Republican senators told reporters that there was "zero question" that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the brutal murder.

have these senators heard that MBS completely denies it, though? completely denies! so it will be impossible to ever find out the truth.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

this may come as a shock, but a great deal of what happens in politics and otherwise actually really "doesn't matter" and doesn't make a difference, and is just grandstanding on a major or very minor scale

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

and yet we talk about it, because it's a thread for talking about these things, not just the most important events that are the hinges upon which the future turns

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

true

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

Also: it's 4:25 p.m. EST and almost happy hour

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

I, too, love christmas surprises

Hi, today the yield curve inverted. This means the interest rates on longer term bonds are now lower than those on short term bonds ( basically, you make less money on a longer term bet)

Here's an article reassuring you why this isn't a big deal (from November 2006)

— 🏴Captain Nuance 🇵🇸🇮🇷 and 420 others (@bluegrass_red) December 4, 2018


https://t.co/sC0n8F0wAm

— 🏴Captain Nuance 🇵🇸🇮🇷 and 420 others (@bluegrass_red) December 4, 2018


subprime mortgage market starting collapsing 3 months later...https://t.co/oRwGzvnARO

— 🏴Captain Nuance 🇵🇸🇮🇷 and 420 others (@bluegrass_red) December 4, 2018

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

wait, am i supposed to be concerned that the motley fool was wrong, or am i supposed to believe captain nuance and 420 others

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

Yeah, what am I supposed to be concerned about?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

He's arguing this may portend another crash and the '06 op-ed was myopic.

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

I suppose if one predicts a correction and/or crash it will eventually happen, esp. since it hasn't happened for a while, but I suppose that is a more specific warning.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

kind of comprehensible explainer

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-12-03/u-s-yield-curve-just-inverted-that-s-huge

i don't think anyone predicting a recession next year is out on a limb at this point

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link

not quite a canary in the coal mine.. article I read said something like 'a recession has followed within 6-24 months'

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

When were folks first talking about an inversion curve? A year ago? A quick google found some predictions Dec. 2017 that the inversion curve could arrive in the next year, and another article from the previous summer that predicted it by the end of that year, 2017. So I suppose people have been seeing this coming for at least a year and a half. And now it's year, and a recession could be another 2 years off. Or sooner. Who knows? It's about time, probably.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

not quite a canary in the coal mine.. article I read said something like 'a recession has followed within 6-24 months'

― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, December 4, 2018 9:48 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pal of mine today said 'so this means we can expect a recession sometime between this year and the heat death of the sun'

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link

you can bank on it.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

Hrm.

NEW: DOJ inspector general's office released a report finding a now-former senior DOJ official sexually assaulted and sexually harassed women working for him — no criminal prosecution, the official retired, he isn't named https://t.co/34C5yg55om pic.twitter.com/Llc5SvVm4W

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) December 4, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

Stone took the fifth?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

Is that pretty much an admission of guilt?

Can't testify because it would be self incrimination?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link

An admission of guilt, yes. But, crucially, it is not evidence of guilt.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link

p sure Mueller has evidence of his guilt at this point

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link

evidence of guilt doesn't mean it will win in court or even get an indictment

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link


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