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did anybody see Burning? I missed its run here - how stupid should I feel?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 05:00 (seven years ago)

thought Dumont's Life of Jesus, Flanders, Slack Bay were all really good

Dan S, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 07:10 (seven years ago)

and especially Humanité

Dan S, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 07:15 (seven years ago)

Yes, looking forward to Coincoin and the Joan of Arc musical, if either of them ever get any kind of UK release.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 09:27 (seven years ago)

Burning is overrated

Dumont est merde

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 12:43 (seven years ago)

why are you laughing at the Greatest Filmmaker, flappy?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 12:45 (seven years ago)

did anybody see Burning? I missed its run here - how stupid should I feel?

― flappy bird,

It's good, despite a muddle of an ending.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 12:46 (seven years ago)

agreed. but it wouldn't make my top 10 I don't think

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 12:52 (seven years ago)

The Indiana Film Journalists Association (IFJA) have announced their nominations representing the best in film for 2018. The winners will be announced tomorrow.

Click below to see the nominations.
BEST PICTURE
Annihilation
Avengers: Infinity War
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Ben Is Back
Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
Chappaquiddick
Crazy Rich Asians
Eighth Grade
The Favourite
First Man
First Reformed
Green Book
The Hate U Give
Hearts Beat Loud
Lean on Pete
Leave No Trace
The Long Dumb Road
Love, Simon
Madeline’s Madeline
Paddington 2
A Quiet Place
Ready Player One
The Rider
Roma
Stan & Ollie
A Star Is Born
Suspiria
Tully
The Wife
You Were Never Really Here

BEST ANIMATED FILM
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Mirai

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
1945
Border
Capernaum
Cold War
The Guilty
Roma
A Sublime Life

BEST DOCUMENTARY
Andre the Giant
Dead Man's Line: The True Story of Tony Kiritsis
Free Solo
Itzhak
Minding the Gap
On Her Shoulders
RBG
Satan and Adam
Three Identical Strangers
Won’t You Be My Neighbor?

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Andrew Bujalski, "Support the Girls"
Bo Burnham, “Eighth Grade”
Diablo Cody, “Tully”
Joel & Ethan Coen, “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”
Deborah Davis and Tony McNamara, "The Favourite"
Hannah Fidell & Carson D. Mell, “The Long Dumb Road”
Cory Finley, “Thoroughbreds”
Brett Haley and Marc Basch, “Hearts Beat Loud”
Peter Hedges, "Ben Is Back"
Tamara Jenkins, “Private Life”
Sam Levinson, "Assassination Nation"
Andrew Logan and Taylor Allen, “Chappaquiddick”
Andrew McCarten, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Paul Schrader, “First Reformed”
Nick Vallelonga, Brian Hayes Currie and Peter Farrelly, “Green Book”
Bryan Woods & Scott Beck and John Krasinski, “A Quiet Place”

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Ali Abbasi, John Ajvide Lindqvist, and Isabella Ekloff, “Border”
Jane Anderson, “The Wife”
Jacques Audiard and Thomas Bidegain, “The Sisters Brothers”
Elizabeth Berger and Isaac Aptaker, “Love, Simon”
Ryan Coogler and Joe Robert Cole, “Black Panther”
Debra Granik and Anne Rosellini, “Leave No Trace”
Alex Garland and Jeff VanderMeer, “Annihilation”
Andrew Haigh, “Lean on Pete”
Armando Iannucci, David Schneider, Ian Martin and Peter Fellows, “The Death of Stalin”
David Kajganich, “Suspiria”
Rebecca Lenkiewicz and Sebastián Lelio, “Disobedience”
Eric Roth, Bradley Cooper and Will Fetters, “A Star Is Born”
Josh Singer, “First Man”
Audrey Wells, “The Hate U Give”

BEST DIRECTOR
Greg Berlanti, “Love, Simon"
Bo Burnham, “Eighth Grade”
Damien Chazelle, “First Man”
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”
Ryan Coogler, “Black Panther”
Bradley Cooper, “A Star Is Born”
Alfonso Cuarón, “Roma”
John Curran, “Chappaquiddick”
Josephine Decker, "Madeline’s Madeline"
Coralie Fargeat, “Revenge”
Peter Farrelly, “Green Book”
Hannah Fidell, “The Long Dumb Road”
Cory Finley, “Thoroughbreds”
Alex Garland, “Annihilation”
Debra Granik, “Leave No Trace”
Luca Guadagnino, “Suspiria”
Andrew Haigh, “Lean on Pete”
Brett Haley, “Hearts Beat Loud”
Peter Hedges, "Ben Is Back"
John Krasinski, “A Quiet Place”
Nadine Labaki, “Capernaum”
Spike Lee, “BlacKkKlansman”
Christopher McQuarrie, "Mission: Impossible - Fallout"
Pawel Pawlikowski, "Cold War"
Lynne Ramsay, “You Were Never Really Here”
Björn Runge, “The Wife”
Paul Schrader, “First Reformed”
Bryan Singer, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
George Tillman Jr., “The Hate U Give”
Chloe Zhao, “The Rider”

BEST ACTRESS
Yalitza Aparicio, “Roma”
Jessica Buckley, “Beast”
Glenn Close, “The Wife”
Elsie Fisher, “Eighth Grade”
Lady Gaga, “A Star Is Born”
Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie, “Leave No Trace”
Regina Hall, “Support the Girls”
Helena Howard, “Madeline’s Madeline”
Dakota Johnson, "Suspiria"
Eva Melander, "Border"
Carey Mulligan, "Wildlife"
Michelle Pfeiffer, “Where is Kyra?”
Natalie Portman, “Annihilation”
Julia Roberts, "Ben Is Back"
Amandla Stenberg, “The Hate U Give”
Emma Stone, "The Favourite"
Charlize Theron, “Tully”
Rachel Weisz, “Disobedience”
Rachel Weisz, "The Favourite"
Mary Elizabeth Winstead, “All About Nina”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Emily Blunt, “A Quiet Place”
Kayli Carter, “Private Life”
Kiersey Clemons, “Hearts Beat Loud”
Olivia Colman, "The Favourite"
Mackenzie Davis, “Tully”
Cynthia Erivo, “Bad Times at the El Royale”
Claire Foy, “First Man”
Danai Gurira, “Black Panther”
Rachel McAdams, “Disobedience”
Millicent Simmonds, “A Quiet Place”
Tilda Swinton, “Suspiria”

BEST ACTOR
Mahershala Ali, “Green Book”
Christian Bale, "Vice"
Jakob Cedergren, “The Guilty”
John Cho, "Searching"
Jason Clarke, “Chappaquiddick”
Steve Coogan, “Stan & Ollie”
Bradley Cooper, “A Star Is Born”
Ben Foster, “Leave No Trace”
Ryan Gosling, “First Man”
Ethan Hawke, “First Reformed”
Brady Jandreau, “The Rider”
Rami Malek, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Jason Mantzoukas, “The Long Dumb Road”
Viggo Mortensen, “Green Book”
Joaquin Phoenix, “Don’t Worry, He Won’t Get Far on Foot”
Joaquin Phoenix, “You Were Never Really Here”
Charlie Plummer, “Lean on Pete”
Jonathan Pryce, “The Wife”
John C. Reilly, “The Sisters Brothers”
John C. Reilly, “Stan & Ollie”
Tony Revolori, “The Long Dumb Road”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Simon Russell Beale, “The Death of Stalin”
Steve Carell, "Vice"
Timothee Chalamet, “Beautiful Boy”
Adam Driver, "BlacKkKlansman"
Sam Elliott, “A Star Is Born”
Hugh Grant, “Paddington 2”
Richard E. Grant, “Can You Ever Forgive Me?”
Josh Hamilton, “Eighth Grade”
Lucas Hedges, "Ben Is Back"
Ed Helms, “Chappaquiddick”
Jonah Hill, “Don’t Worry, He Won’t Get Far on Foot”
Russell Hornsby, “The Hate U Give”
Nicholas Hoult, "The Favourite"
Michael B. Jordan, “Black Panther”
Matthew McConaughey, “White Boy Rick”
Alessandro Nivola, “Disobedience”
Jesse Plemons, “Game Night”
Jonathan Pryce, "The Wife"
Christian Slater, “The Wife”

BEST VOCAL/MOTION CAPTURE PERFORMANCE
Josh Brolin, “Avengers: Infinity War”
Bryan Cranston, “Isle of Dogs”
Tom Hiddleston, “Early Man”
Ben Whishaw, “Paddington 2”

BEST ENSEMBLE ACTING
Bad Times at the El Royale
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
Crazy Rich Asians
First Man
Hearts Beat Loud
Leave No Trace
Love, Simon
A Quiet Place
Thoroughbreds
The Wife

BEST MUSICAL SCORE
Lorne Balfe, “Mission: Impossible - Fallout”
Geoff Barrow & Ben Salisbury, “Annihilation”
Marco Beltrami, “A Quiet Place”
Nicholas Britell, "If Beale Street Could Talk"
Carter Burwell, “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”
Erik Friedlander, “Thoroughbreds”
Ludwig Göransson, “Black Panther”
Jonny Greenwood, “You Were Never Really Here”
Nathan Halpern, “The Rider”
Ian Hultquist, “Assassination Nation”
Justin Hurwitz, “First Man”
Jóhann Jóhannsson, “Mandy”
Dario Marianelli, "Paddington 2"
Philip Miller, “Where is Kyra?”
Jocelyn Pook, “The Wife”
Max Richter, “White Boy Rick”
Rob, “Revenge”
David Shire, “Love After Love”
Alan Silvestri, “Ready Player One”
Thom Yorke, “Suspiria”

BREAKOUT OF THE YEAR
Zain Al Rafeea, “Capernaum” (actor)
Jessica Buckley, “Beast” (actress)
Coralie Fargeat, “Revenge” (writer / director)
Hannah Fidell, “The Long Dumb Road” (director / co-writer)
Cory Finley, “Thoroughbreds” (writer / director)
Elsie Fisher, “Eighth Grade” (actress)
Brady Jandreau, “The Rider” (actor)
Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie, “Leave No Trace” (actress)
Helena Howard, “Madeline’s Madeline” (actress)
Gustav Möller, “The Guilty” (director / co-writer)
Nick Robinson, “Love, Simon” (actor)
Evan Rosado, “We the Animals” (actor)
John David Washington, “BlacKkKlansman” (actor)
Chloe Zhao, “The Rider” (writer / director)

ORIGINAL VISION
Isle of Dogs
A Quiet Place
Eighth Grade
The Long Dumb Road
Madeline’s Madeline
The Rider
​Sorry to Bother You

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:10 (seven years ago)

Way to cut through the clutter there, Indiana crix.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:11 (seven years ago)

ROMA will not be eligible for today’s AFI Awards as it is not an American Film. However, remember that THE ARTIST won a special award in 2011. Something similar could happen today. Stay tuned for the Top 10.

— Matt Neglia (@NextBestPicture) December 4, 2018

Ooooooh. Do you think?.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:18 (seven years ago)

Excellent.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:21 (seven years ago)

I am already detrius'ed out. Can't even bring myself to post the nominations for the Annie Awards.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)

obv Indiana broke you

relax with some F Troop episodes

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 16:01 (seven years ago)

Indiana wants me
lord I can't go back

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)

AFI's Top 10...

“BlacKkKlansman”
“Black Panther”
“Eighth Grade”
“If Beale Street Could Talk”
“The Favourite”
“First Reformed”
“Green Book”
“Mary Poppins Returns”
“A Quiet Place”
“A Star Is Born”

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:32 (seven years ago)

not bad

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)

I didn't, I couldn't take Oscar bloggers seriously when they started crowing about Mary Poppins 2. I should've known.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)

xp let's agree to disagree

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)

I didn't see Black Panther but seems high

wtf is Mary Poppins 2

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)

Tho I am starting to truly think the girl in Eighth Grade will land Glenn Close's slot now.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)

I didn't see A Quiet Place either, looked stupid. everything else on there is good. I mean, I'm assuming Beale Street is gonna be cool.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:35 (seven years ago)

I keep getting confused between A Quiet Place and Leave No Trace. The latter is supposed to be very good.

brokenshire (jed_), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)

Yes.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)

Mary Poppins 2 is a sequel to Mrs Doubtfire

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:39 (seven years ago)

Did you review it, Al? xp

brokenshire (jed_), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:40 (seven years ago)

Leave No Trace is very good

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)

Nope, but I recommend it. I prefer it to Winter's Bone.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:59 (seven years ago)

Leave No Trace is probably the best movie made yet about Iraq/Afghanistan PTSD

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:13 (seven years ago)

Not only have the nominations for one Golden Globes category been announced, but so has the winner!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Globe_Award_for_Best_Actress_%E2%80%93_Motion_Picture_Comedy_or_Musical

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 22:44 (seven years ago)

Re: The John Waters list and a few comments upthread...

Jeannette was one of the worst films I have ever seen. I don't think I have ever felt such regret at not having walked out of a movie. Everything about it is simply intolerable. Not only did I hate it but I have a hard time believing anyone could like it (I can imagine someone liking a 10-15 minute short version, but the gag stales very quickly).

I saw it because I have a thing about seeing every movie about Joan of Arc. I watched the trailer and was fairly warned. But that still didn't prepare me for the endless pain of seeing it through.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 05:35 (seven years ago)

thank you for the warning!

xp that wikipedia entry is hilarious

Dan S, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 05:47 (seven years ago)

Burning was not only good, it surprised me so much, it's stuck with me so hard, all the images, absolutely haunting performances, it's my favorite of the director's films, it may be my favorite of the year, I was stunned!

abcfsk, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 07:34 (seven years ago)

Shirkers, which is on Netflix, is going to end up being one of my favorite films of the year. An uncommonly fascinating and moving documentary.

Chris L, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 08:12 (seven years ago)

all the many Joan of Arc films I've seen are at least good (even Rivette's), but i'm unsurprised that Dumont wd break the streak.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 09:07 (seven years ago)

Shirkers, which is on Netflix, is going to end up being one of my favorite films of the year. An uncommonly fascinating and moving documentary.

― Chris L

Watching it tonighit.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 11:38 (seven years ago)

NYT crix top 10s:

Manohla Dargis

01. Roma
02. Burning
03. Shoplifters
04. Zama
05. Happy As Lazzaro
06. BlacKkKlansman
07. First Reformed
08. The Death of Stalin
09. Monrovia, Indiana
10. Colophon (for the Arboretum Cycle)

A.O. Scott

01. Monrovia, Indiana; Bisbee '17; Hale County This Morning, This Evening; Minding the Gap (tie)
02. Happy As Lazzaro
03. First Reformed
04. Private Life
05. Roma
06. Let the Sunshine In
07. Can You Ever Forgive Me?
08. BlacKkKlansman
09. Capernaum
10. The Favourite

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 14:20 (seven years ago)

Would have rather seen A.O. Scott commit to a mostly-doc list.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 14:22 (seven years ago)

Zama at last

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 14:23 (seven years ago)

It's on my list, whenever that gets finished (2023).

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 14:42 (seven years ago)

Let the Sunshine In at last

Bisbee '17 at last

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)

Sunshine also on my list, whenever that gets finished (it won't).

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 15:06 (seven years ago)

Sunshine never left my list (first and last time you'll see any version of this sentence).

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 15:39 (seven years ago)

Oscar VFX finalists:

Ant-Man and the Wasp
Aquaman
Avengers: Infinity War
Black Panther
Bumblebee
Christopher Robin
Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald
First Man
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dog
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
Mary Poppins Returns
Mission: Impossible – Fallout
Mortal Engines
The Nutcracker and the Four Realms
Paddington 2
A Quiet Place
Ready Player One
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Welcome to Marwen

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:33 (seven years ago)

First Man
Paddington 2

burn the rest

flappy bird, Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:34 (seven years ago)

Golden Globe noms announced in a few

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:20 (seven years ago)

They snubbed Roma in every category but foreign film! Your kinda people, Soto!

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:41 (seven years ago)

Also the line between Ethan Hawke winning everything and Ethan Hawke never getting mentioned again this detrius season.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:42 (seven years ago)

While people are transcribing the nominations, here's one more top 10 list, from Vanity Fair's K Austin Collins:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/12/10-best-movies-2018-k-austin-collins

#1 ... First Reformed

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:45 (seven years ago)

Robert Redford, The Old Man and the Gun

John C. Reilly, Stan & Ollie

what

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:52 (seven years ago)


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